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Posted by: Mungrul.9358

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Can anyone tell me how I’m supposed to get these besides mindless farming, buying them from the TP or through grinding dungeons over and over?

I’ve had 3 lodestones of various different flavours drop in over 1,500 hours of play.

You can’t tell me that’s reasonable.

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Posted by: dukefx.9730

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Unfortunately yes

Ways to aquire:
farming dungeons
farming elementals
the new orrian boxes, so in this case farming karma
buying from the tp, so farming gold

It took me 2 months at least to get 100 onyx lodestones while doing all of the above and I even had a friend helping me.

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Posted by: Mungrul.9358

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Yeah, that doesn’t appeal to me whatsoever.
Welp, guess I’ll just have to save the money to buy them.

So now I have my Gift of Mastery, it all comes down to how much money I can get my hands on?
Wow, that’s really legendary.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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I suppose you would like to have a lodestone gnome in the game that just gives you the lodestones if you ask nicely?

You already have multiple ways to get them. Farming, buying them from TP, trading karma for them (really nice for us WvW players) – what more do you want? If farming doesn’t appeal to you, and buying them for gold doesn’t appeal to you and getting them for excess karma doesn’t appeal to you, I am really curious as to what does.

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Posted by: Mungrul.9358

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Ye gods, why does it always come down to entitlement with people like you Gaudrath?
As it happens, no, I don’t want them just handed to me, but I’d like a method of acquisition that was fun rather than an abject chore.
Seriously, next time you’re about to post something along the same lines as the above, stop, think, and don’t.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Ye gods, why does it always come down to entitlement with people like you Gaudrath?
As it happens, no, I don’t want them just handed to me, but I’d like a method of acquisition that was fun rather than an abject chore.
Seriously, next time you’re about to post something along the same lines as the above, stop, think, and don’t.

You haven’t asnwered my question. What method would you prefer? You rule out PvE, you rule out PvP (karma), and you rule out trading.

I mean, that sounds to me like you don’t want to spend time and effort to get them. If I am wrong, I really am interested in hearing what kind of system you envision for getting lodestones.

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Posted by: Apolyon.6937

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It all depends on how fast do you want to get them. If you want to get 100 lodestones in 1 week, then you are doomed. Remember that legendaries were supposed to be achievable in the long term. For me it was 5 months of playing, with four other people helping me, so five people, 5 months, 100 onyx lodestones. Actually most of them where onyx cores that I transmuted into lodestones. Every once in a while I spent some gold in the TP to buy more cores.

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Posted by: Mungrul.9358

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You haven’t asnwered my question. What method would you prefer? You rule out PvE, you rule out PvP (karma), and you rule out trading.

I mean, that sounds to me like you don’t want to spend time and effort to get them. If I am wrong, I really am interested in hearing what kind of system you envision for getting lodestones.

Look, you respond aggressively, as so many people on these forums do, attempting to make yourself look smart by poo-pooing someone elses opinion, and you expect to get something civil from me?

Did you miss the part where I mentioned I’ve got over 1,500 hours logged, with only 3 lodestones to show for it?
And if we’re getting pathetic and arguing semantics, I didn’t dismiss PvE, I stated that the idea of grinding instanced content did not appeal, but to those with tiny imaginations and a ridiculous tolerance for repetition, they think that instanced content is the whole of PvE.

I would like for drop rates to be slightly more than insulting, so that gaining lodestones through open world play and WvW was just as viable as through instances. Three in 1,500 hours isn’t reasonable, and if you argue otherwise, there’s something drastically wrong with your perception of “reasonable”.

At the moment, any open world farming activity swiftly gets smacked by the DR bat, increasing the time needed to get these things dramatically. In threads discussing lodestones, it’s not uncommon to see people quote rates of 1 every 3 hours.
That’s 3 hours of the doing same stuff in the same place over and over again.
How is that healthy gameplay?

These things should have a drop rate more akin to T6 materials, if a little less frequent.
After all, the quantities required for some legendaries are similar to the T6 material requirements.
Is this an unreasonable request?
They should also drop from any mob in high level areas, not just elementals and destroyers. Pop them in the bags, just do SOMETHING.

@Apolyon: I’m curious; you said it took you 5 months. As the game’s only been out that long, would it be correct of me to assume that the whole of those 5 months wasn’t exclusively dedicated to farming lodestones?
And even then, although you’ve got the ones you need now and worked hard to get them, do you think it’s reasonable to argue for increasing their availability?

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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So basically you find lodestone drops too low and would like them to be buffed?

Basically you just confirmed my initial statement that you would like a lodestone gnome to hand them out. Sorry, but that’s what it looks like. Your argument can be applied to virtually any hard to get item in the game, including precursors.

I am sorry, but with 1500 hours logged, you should have been able to gather enough gold to BUY way more than 3 lodestones. Hey, I need lodestones too! Do I plan on grinding insanely to farm them? Of course not, the drop rates are too low.

Which is why the TP is your friend. Play the game the way you like, find a way to get as much gold as you can from it, then use that gold to buy the stuff you need. That’s why the TP is there in the first place.

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Posted by: Mad Rasputin.7809

Mad Rasputin.7809

You may have 1,500 hours but those hours were not spent ‘farming’ or playing where lodestones drop.

Most in PVE seem to come from mobs that only appear once Temples in Orr are uncontested.

They can also be farmed from the different dungeons throughout the land.

And fractals has been a great place to acquire lodestones/cores. I have acquired a nice little collection after running fractals for a couple weeks. I can sell the ones I don’t need to fund the purchase of the ones I do need.

You can spend another 1,500 hours playing, but if you are not playing where lodestones have a chance to drop then you will never see any.

‘Farming’ these specific areas used to result in a lodestone as quick as every 20-30 minutes but lately seems to drop one on average every 1-1.5 hours.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

Gaudrath.6725

The game is relatively new and drop rates are still being tweaked. That said, it is relatively easy to make solid gold per hour, gold that can be turned into lodestones of one’s liking via TP.

Right now, focused farming (farming to get any specific item) is actually the worst way to get that item in any meaningful quantity. Farming for profit and then turning that profit into items you wish is much more productive.

But the OP said that he doesn’t like either direct farming nor trading on the TP, so that would be a problem.

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Posted by: Elric Of Melnibone.4781

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Lodestones and precursor are the two ridiculously hard to get ingredients needed to craft a Legendary weapon. These weapons are supposed to represent a great achievement in the game. The problem is the only way to get one is to get lucky or play the market. This is supposed to be a role playing game, not a financial game.

Are those people who are fortunate enough to be running around with a Legendary really great achievers? Or are they market manipulators? Or really lucky kittens?

If charged lodestones where say 50 silver, that’s 50 gold for part of a Legendary, and if the precursors where 50 gold as well, that would be a total of maybe 150 gold for everything needed. That would be a reasonable amount of gold to accumulate doing ‘normal’ game play, but instead it’s more like 1500 gold for a Legendary.

The big gripe is being at the mercy of the RNG, which is COMPOUNDED by Diminished Returns, which is what REALLY ticks me off.

Why make something REALLY hard to get AND THEN PUNISH US FOR TRYING ALL DAY LONG TO GET IT!!! I think I have spent like 6 hours now farming sparks and have ONE lousy Charged Lodestone.

I know the next response, “Go run CoE”! Well guess what, Lion’s Arch is a ghost town. WHERE IS THE LFG system we need to form a dungeon party? I can either be out in the world earning gold to buy from the lucky people, or I can stand around in Lion’s Arch looking for a group, wasting hours accomplishing nothing.

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Posted by: Pennry.9215

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I’m with Gaudrath.6725: You can get lodestones through all aspects of the game but SPvP and SPvP has no use for them. What happened to “Effort = Reward”? So you gotta put a little effort in to making what you consider fun profitable for what you want.

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Posted by: Calvinthesneak.5839

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I wasn’t hoping for a lodestone gnome. What I was hoping for was the mystic binding agents would actually be useful and let you transform lodestones of different types into the more demanded versions.

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Posted by: kiba.2768

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i was able to get 200 charged cores in about 12 days. so 100 charged lodestones will take me 1-2 more days to buy up the elonian wines i’ll need.

by day, i mean 3-4 hours of play time, as i didn’t play every day. about 5/7 days a week

it all depends on how you want to go about it. streamline your progress(and lose out on some fun/random elements of tyria) and you’ll see good results in shorter time span.

in case anyone was wondering, no i’m no master of the tp. i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for. i don’t know how to flip/manipulate items/people. was never in my nature to do that kind of stuff anyway.

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Posted by: Barfoi.9537

Barfoi.9537

Welp, guess I’ll just have to save the money to buy them.

Turning the game into a chore won’t be fun, so don’t do it! Just play the game how you want to, and slowly buy them here/there from the extra gold you want to throw-around. They’re slowly making it easier to get gold from doing whatever, so it shouldn’t be too bad — only if you’re in a rush. ;P

Exploring the world and doing events will net you drops to sell/salvage (in addition to harvesting); instances (such as fractals/dungeons) can be very lucrative, and even the drops in WvW are worthwhile (getting rares quite often, and an exotic a few days ago). They’re not get-rich-quick, but ANet tries to keep it that away — just like how they want Legendaries to take time to achieve.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

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Best way I’ve found to collect them manually so far (as opposed to buying them from the TP) is dungeon running. From CoF I’ve been building up molten cores at a slow but steady rate, and two cores will give one lodestone with small additional investments into the transmutation recipe. So you can just look your desired lodestone/core up on the wiki, find out what dungeon it drops in, and try to do some consistent runs of it.

Some of the WvW enemies can also drop them in their loot bag items, so you can go farm some of them too if you’re looking for an area with easy and free access. For instance, I think the borderland centaurs and skritt can drop loot bags that have a rare chance of having a core or lodestone. But dungeons are would probably be better since you’re getting other stuff anyways from doing the dungeon instead of just mindlessly farming stuff.

Fractals also, but I haven’t got a ton of lodestones/cores out of fractals.

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Posted by: Scoompoof.4657

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I just wish I felt like I was making progress on these things. I would have no problem farming them if I could see one every 4 or 5 hours of farming. I made an investment on all this magic find (I’m over 175% with food buff and booster) and it hasn’t done a thing for Spark farming. haha in time, I guess…

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Posted by: Mad Rasputin.7809

Mad Rasputin.7809

Hate to say it, but MF does not seem to improve the chance for a lodestone drop. I came to that conclusion after many hours of farming them, and so did a few other people that I knew who farmed them. Drop rates seemed the same or better without MF.

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Posted by: Sauzo.6821

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@ OP, I hate to say it but trying to actually farm lodestones from world drops will make you want to kill yourself. I swear ANet wants people to buy gems, exchange it for gold, and then use the TP. I can’t see any other reason for implimenting DR system since pretty much the bot issue has been killed. And it would be very easy to undo DR since take the jan 28th patch which increased T6 mat drops in Orr and then a day later they nerfed the drops back to pre patch. So like i said, i’m fairly certain ANet is trying to pigeonhole the community into having to buy gems with real cash to advance in this game. If you ask me, i’d rather spend 15 bucks a month for sub and have normal drop rates like other MMOs than to have a nonsub and have droprates like we got now. Anyways, if i were you and wanted/needed lodestones, i’d just do either fractals till my eyes bled or the specific dungeon that drops the lodestones you want. Good luck.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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i was able to get 200 charged cores in about 12 days. so 100 charged lodestones will take me 1-2 more days to buy up the elonian wines i’ll need.

by day, i mean 3-4 hours of play time, as i didn’t play every day. about 5/7 days a week

it all depends on how you want to go about it. streamline your progress(and lose out on some fun/random elements of tyria) and you’ll see good results in shorter time span.

in case anyone was wondering, no i’m no master of the tp. i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for. i don’t know how to flip/manipulate items/people. was never in my nature to do that kind of stuff anyway.

I call BS then if you didn’t buy some from the TP. Drop rate is way too low to get 200 in 3-5 hours of game play per day for 12 days only.

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Posted by: Vol.5241

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People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

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Posted by: kiba.2768

kiba.2768

i was able to get 200 charged cores in about 12 days. so 100 charged lodestones will take me 1-2 more days to buy up the elonian wines i’ll need.

by day, i mean 3-4 hours of play time, as i didn’t play every day. about 5/7 days a week

it all depends on how you want to go about it. streamline your progress(and lose out on some fun/random elements of tyria) and you’ll see good results in shorter time span.

in case anyone was wondering, no i’m no master of the tp. i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for. i don’t know how to flip/manipulate items/people. was never in my nature to do that kind of stuff anyway.

I call BS then if you didn’t buy some from the TP. Drop rate is way too low to get 200 in 3-5 hours of game play per day for 12 days only.

never said i didn’t buy them from the tp. i said i don’t flip items on the tp to make gold. anyway, got my wines a day earlier than i expected

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Posted by: kiba.2768

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People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

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Posted by: Kenage Achalarus.4276

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ok what i have done with my guildmates and myself
1: trade like i need charged cores and onyx ill trade my molten cores Cristal or destroyer cores for theses
2: ill buy them for a guildie doscount like charged 3 gold insted of the TP
3: ill trade weapons for them like my guildmate needs daggers any rare or exaudic for loadstones
4: we try to get the guild for a dungeon run like TA or FoTM for Loadstones
5: we get the guild together for a orr raid
basically what I’m saying is ask you guildmates what legendary they want and if their open for trade for what they need. that may be the best way to obtain what you need. i think this is how anet wants us to obtain our loadstones for what we need. I have always been the one that loved helping my guildmates and such.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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i was able to get 200 charged cores in about 12 days. so 100 charged lodestones will take me 1-2 more days to buy up the elonian wines i’ll need.

by day, i mean 3-4 hours of play time, as i didn’t play every day. about 5/7 days a week

it all depends on how you want to go about it. streamline your progress(and lose out on some fun/random elements of tyria) and you’ll see good results in shorter time span.

in case anyone was wondering, no i’m no master of the tp. i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for. i don’t know how to flip/manipulate items/people. was never in my nature to do that kind of stuff anyway.

I call BS then if you didn’t buy some from the TP. Drop rate is way too low to get 200 in 3-5 hours of game play per day for 12 days only.

never said i didn’t buy them from the tp. i said i don’t flip items on the tp to make gold. anyway, got my wines a day earlier than i expected

Ahhhh but you did say that you didn’t buy them from the tp:
“i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for.” That implies that you don’t buy from the TP at all.

People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

Acutally, I didn’t mean for that to sound hostile. It was supposed to be a bemused tone, but I can see why it was taken hostile.

In regards to what you said and what others keep mentioning about the TP, let me ask you one thing. What happens when everyone stops farming the Lodestones and jsut buys off the TP? Buying from the TP is only a bandaide to the existing problem (does not apply to grind-supporters), which is the drop rate of lodestones.

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Posted by: kiba.2768

kiba.2768

i was able to get 200 charged cores in about 12 days. so 100 charged lodestones will take me 1-2 more days to buy up the elonian wines i’ll need.

by day, i mean 3-4 hours of play time, as i didn’t play every day. about 5/7 days a week

it all depends on how you want to go about it. streamline your progress(and lose out on some fun/random elements of tyria) and you’ll see good results in shorter time span.

in case anyone was wondering, no i’m no master of the tp. i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for. i don’t know how to flip/manipulate items/people. was never in my nature to do that kind of stuff anyway.

I call BS then if you didn’t buy some from the TP. Drop rate is way too low to get 200 in 3-5 hours of game play per day for 12 days only.

never said i didn’t buy them from the tp. i said i don’t flip items on the tp to make gold. anyway, got my wines a day earlier than i expected

Ahhhh but you did say that you didn’t buy them from the tp:
“i only use it to sell stuff that drops that i have no use for.” That implies that you don’t buy from the TP at all.

People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

Acutally, I didn’t mean for that to sound hostile. It was supposed to be a bemused tone, but I can see why it was taken hostile.

In regards to what you said and what others keep mentioning about the TP, let me ask you one thing. What happens when everyone stops farming the Lodestones and jsut buys off the TP? Buying from the TP is only a bandaide to the existing problem (does not apply to grind-supporters), which is the drop rate of lodestones.

firstly, you’re reading too much into it to defend your(pointless) point. i said i sell what i have no use for, in context to manipulation(which is what i don’t do) which you took out of context/misquoted. that does not imply that i do not buy anything. if i didn’t buy anything, i would have said, ‘i don’t buy any items from the tp.’

secondly, it is none of my concern if everyone bought charged cores off the tp and people stopped farming them. people supply what they want to sell and ‘have no use for.’ before i started on bolt, i sold quite a few charged cores from fractal drops and a couple lodestones i randomly found while harvesting in malchor to fund my first legendary.

as it is, the drop rate of ALL cores/lodestones is perfectly fine as is. what is flawed is the disproportionate amount of recipes that require charged lodestones versus the other lodestone varieties.

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Posted by: Vol.5241

Vol.5241

People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

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You are trying to farm mobs that are widely spaced.
Compare that to dynamic events that spawn a dozen of mobs at a time in high frequency.

Your kill rate and loot rate per hour is huge and you actually make a lot of money.
1 hour at shelt pen can net you enough to buy 1 and a half charged lodestones. Farming sparks can net you anywhere from 0-2

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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@Kiba, Really, the only one being defensive here is you. I just quoted what you said, context or not.

I disagree with your drop rate opinion. Charged and Corrupted Lodestones are ridiculous for the rate. The other lodestones I think are fine. But this is also my opinion, so take the grain of salt.

@Vol, Actually, I’ve stopped farming for lodes myself personal after discovering, quickly I might add, how much of a waste of time it was.

In my experience, I had been farming Corrupted Lodestones, thinking they wouldn’t be as bad as Charged, but they’re just as bad if not worse. I spent one week with about 10 hours in and got 1 stone. That’s probalby just the RNG crappin on me, but still.

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Posted by: kiba.2768

kiba.2768

@Kiba, Really, the only one being defensive here is you. I just quoted what you said, context or not.

when you call me out for something that is blatantly not true then provide circumstantial and contextual evidence for what you inferred to be true, it behooves me to defend myself with facts.

btw, good luck trying to convince anyone but yourself

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Posted by: Nike.2631

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he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

And every time someone says this, the price goes up.

Somebody has to actually do the work. They don’t appear in the TP by magic.

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: Sauzo.6821

Sauzo.6821

People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

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You are trying to farm mobs that are widely spaced.
Compare that to dynamic events that spawn a dozen of mobs at a time in high frequency.

Your kill rate and loot rate per hour is huge and you actually make a lot of money.
1 hour at shelt pen can net you enough to buy 1 and a half charged lodestones. Farming sparks can net you anywhere from 0-2

Your luck at shelter/pent DEs must be alot different than mine then cause after about 2 runs of each, it seems DR kicks in and i get squat from these events. Not so in the past but since jan 28th, much more so.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

@Kiba, Really, the only one being defensive here is you. I just quoted what you said, context or not.

when you call me out for something that is blatantly not true then provide circumstantial and contextual evidence for what you inferred to be true, it behooves me to defend myself with facts.

btw, good luck trying to convince anyone but yourself

Again, who’s being defensive here? You just proved it yet again. Mr. Pot, over there is Mr. Kettle. As you said in your previous post, this is “(pointless)”.

Let me also pose another question to all posters that continually state that lodestone drop rates are fine and then use the TP to buy them: If drop rates for lodestones are fine the way they are, then why bother buying them from the TP? If you truly feel that way, then there is no reason to. It makes no logical sense.

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Posted by: Vol.5241

Vol.5241

People who seemingly only farm specific mobs for lodestones are the ones who are complaining . I’m not sure if they realize what they are doing is inefficient or not.

Well by all means, please enlighten them. Or are you just blowing smoke too?

he means if you spend your time farming sparks for your lodestones, you’ll not be as efficient as say…someone who farms t6 mats that drop more frequently and sell them to buy your lodestones

that is all. no need to get hostile =]

^
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You are trying to farm mobs that are widely spaced.
Compare that to dynamic events that spawn a dozen of mobs at a time in high frequency.

Your kill rate and loot rate per hour is huge and you actually make a lot of money.
1 hour at shelt pen can net you enough to buy 1 and a half charged lodestones. Farming sparks can net you anywhere from 0-2

Your luck at shelter/pent DEs must be alot different than mine then cause after about 2 runs of each, it seems DR kicks in and i get squat from these events. Not so in the past but since jan 28th, much more so.

I don’t care about rare drops and neither should you, otherwise you’ll never want to run shelt/pen

You make most of your money off moldy bags. At these t6 prices, it’s very lucrative. Moldy bags are not hit by DR.

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Posted by: mcarswell.3768

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You make most of your money off moldy bags. At these t6 prices, it’s very lucrative. Moldy bags are not hit by DR.

really? how do you know that?

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Posted by: Nike.2631

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Because the rate of acquisition is very steady even if you run the loop for hours in a single sitting.

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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I’m hoping mystic binding agents help stabilize the lodestone market….

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Posted by: Iures.2894

Iures.2894

really? how do you know that?

It’s been tested rather extensively. Bags aren’t affected by DR or MF.

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Posted by: Evagal.2584

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The OP is right. Lodestones are basically the most ridiculous thing in the game at the moment.

Lodestones are required for nearly every single “unique” skin; they are also required in some runes,ect.

However, since they are required for skins, they are rare.
But they are to rare..

Why am I not allowed to farm anything in this game? WHY are the drop rates so bad? 2 hours and not a single corrupted lodestone is very unacceptable.

The resources are there.
Lodestone exchange for:
Karma. DIRECTLY. The orrian jewelry boxes are more RNG garbage. I’ve spent 200k karma and i’ve gotten 2 lodestones.
Dungeon Tokens
Laurels

Why is this not happening? Stop adding in more RNG on top of RNG. Nobody likes this much RNG.

But really, why are lodestones >so important yet so hard to get<? What is the “reason”? There are very arbitrarily hard to get. You either have tons of cash, and therefore unique skins, or you are mostly broke, and have basic skins.

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Posted by: Lucas of the Desert.2165

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You are not ment to farm for anything in GW2.. that’s the whole point of DR. You are encouraged to do a variety of things, and lodestones then become available for gold,karma,fractals and coe. I don’t know why monsters are able to drop them bit my best bet is that arenanet wanted to give a few lucky map explorer a suprisingly reward. They didn’t want us to farm them over and over again.

People don’t get that they are supposed to be VERY rare drops. I still need 85 charged lodestones and i’ll get them just like i got the other 15: doing CoE runs with the guild, doing fractal dailys and maybe use karma for the jewelery boxes.
The thing is that they should be hard to get they are designed that way. It’s not like you can farm a week or two to get your infinite light or your gift of lightning/weather (which i am going for). It should take you months to get it but then you’ll appreciate the hard work you did and you are satisfied with your reward.

If that’s too long for you or you don’t like farming (playing the game) for them then i have one thing to say: don’t get them. It’s not required and no one forces you to get that weapon. Just go for a other skin if that’s too hard or too timeconsuming for you.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

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Everybody in GW2 wants a legendary weapon. /sigh. So… how is the ESO beta coming along?

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

munkiman.3068

It’s actually not about a legendary, some of them don’t even require lodestones at all. It’s about the fact that so many skins use em and some use a lot of them, yet they rarely drop. I agree, there is way too much RNG in the game.

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Posted by: Sauzo.6821

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You are not ment to farm for anything in GW2.. that’s the whole point of DR. You are encouraged to do a variety of things, and lodestones then become available for gold,karma,fractals and coe. I don’t know why monsters are able to drop them bit my best bet is that arenanet wanted to give a few lucky map explorer a suprisingly reward. They didn’t want us to farm them over and over again.

People don’t get that they are supposed to be VERY rare drops. I still need 85 charged lodestones and i’ll get them just like i got the other 15: doing CoE runs with the guild, doing fractal dailys and maybe use karma for the jewelery boxes.
The thing is that they should be hard to get they are designed that way. It’s not like you can farm a week or two to get your infinite light or your gift of lightning/weather (which i am going for). It should take you months to get it but then you’ll appreciate the hard work you did and you are satisfied with your reward.

If that’s too long for you or you don’t like farming (playing the game) for them then i have one thing to say: don’t get them. It’s not required and no one forces you to get that weapon. Just go for a other skin if that’s too hard or too timeconsuming for you.

The whole point of DR was to stop bots. And if people want to farm, they should be able to and not be penalized unless they are breaking the EULA of course which bots were. And as for charged lodestones, the problem is there is a disproptionate number of recipes that require em vs what mobs can actually drop em. As for legendary, myself i mostly made mine to fill in the last tab on the character select screen and also since that was the last thing i havn’t done in the game. Working on my 2nd legendary now and let me tell you, it’s going alot slower than my first one and that’s by choice

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Posted by: Swimsasa Stoon.8936

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in the process of trying to get mystic clovers I got a ton of lodestones….

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Posted by: Iures.2894

Iures.2894

in the process of trying to get mystic clovers I got a ton of lodestones….

It’s 50 silver for the 1x recipe, and 5 gold for the 10x recipe, not counting the cost of karma or skill points, which can both be converted to gold. The expected return value is much less than the cost, from what I can tell, making this not worth it except as a “bonus.”

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Posted by: Tenbo Meiholikh.2038

Tenbo Meiholikh.2038

Don’t know if it is just me but I used to get lodestones as drops (not all the time but often enough to keep from getting too frustrated) but since the orrian jewelry boxes came out, I haven’t had one lodestone or core drop, not even in a dungeon. Any chance ArenaNet messed with the DR when the boxes were added to Karma shops?

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Posted by: Lucas of the Desert.2165

Lucas of the Desert.2165

I do fractals and dungeons almost daily sometimes mkre sometimes less.

No changes trust me. You’re just experimenting a strike of bad luck. Please do CoE all 3 paths for 3 days, 9 paths so to say, take a screenshot of every chest and then you can come back here

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Posted by: Himei.5379

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Yeah, no change from what I see. Heck, my guild mate got 3 charged lodestone in 15 mins (SUPERSUPER lucky) while I got 2 glacial in 20 mins. I also like the fact that they added tons of elementals to new areas (unless I never noticed before) so more places to farm.