Personally I think you’re overselling TESO. I’ve heard the claim “X mmo is gonna kill everything when it comes out” and usually it holds true for about a month, then it becomes the same ole same ole and people go back to their old mmo…..
Well that’s not true. This game would have been a king now and for long with a superb success, if the company didn’t ruin everything with bugged patches, karka’s event, various scams during festivities, etc etc etc.
TESO has superb graphic, a promise of huge battles, a great lore , a huge fanbase.
What is needed? A company listening the playerbase , an active forum where the community is truly able to communicate with the dev team, release cleaned patches (and if new bugs will pop, fix them quickly, 24 hours later), an active support team (ingame too if possible), don’t release near the final launch fake videos of something will not work at all ingame (like the huge battles we are talking about), don’t make an other casino (like the mystic toilet the best way to get a precursor, no special tricks or combinations as we explained, enjoy , OP) and many more.
Basically the exact opposite of everything is gw2 about management will be a guaranteed success lol
Am i exagerating?
And this game had a lot of promises too don’t you agree? Look at how those panned out. Thus i’m standing by my comment of you are putting too much into TESO. I’ll believe it when the game comes out and has all the promises made actually implemented into the game. I’ve played enough MMOs in the past to know that what is said on paper rarely actually translates into the game.
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And this game had a lot of promises too don’t you agree? Look at how those panned out. Thus i’m standing by my comment of you are putting too much into TESO. I’ll believe it when the game comes out and has all the promises made actually implemented into the game. I’ve played enough MMOs in the past to know that what is said on paper rarely actually translates into the game.
Indeed. One thing people don’t seem to understand about TESO is that Bethesda has nothing to do with it – it’s coming from the relatively untested ZeniMax Online, and headed up by the guy who brought the disaster that was Trials of Atlantis to DAOC.
I’d like TESO to be succcessful, if only because of the Elder Scrolls IP – but I’m not holding my breath. The hype is ridiculous at this point, and we all know how that works out. :p
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WE will talk again about TESO when times will come. I hope will not be an other waste of money as i did here. I surely didn’t paid to play 3 months and at 4th leaving, logging to have fun looking the TP and something like this guy wrote
Few days ago I bought Venom (precursor for Kraitkin) for 23g. In like 3 days later, all 24 tridents cost from 70g down to 44,5g.
Pure manipulation. Someone bought the whole stock (because with prices around 25g it is no problem) and resold them for almost twice the old price.
I was stupid that I did not buy more of them, but lucky that I have at least one so cheaply.
Yup, just manipulation, even of underwater precursors.
Thinks, if just we had a company taking care to stop them..maybe so many of us was still ingame working toward this last goal, now, instead of playing other games waiting and hoping better for the next incoming mmo. A topic sad to be discussed on a main forum of an mmo. It’s absurd how so many thread have been opened like this one from 7 months, being just ignored by this company.
I even explained how the manipulation works on an other thread.
Wait, didn’t i explained it few months ago, too?
I just put 110 Mystic Coins into that cursed Toilet and got 20 Clovers in return. What? Grind? GW2? Never…. But still I return. :P
Use the 10-clover recipe. The rate is much higher.
I’m on my fourth 77-clover set and I usually use about 150 mystic coins.
It’s really not – you just got lucky. Congrats! If you look at a much larger sample size, you will see the success rates for both recipes are around 30%:
I used the single recipe for my 77 clovers and got 29-30% success, as predicted.
I do think the manipulation of precursor prices should be stopped since it is ruining the game for some people. I got my shield precursor in December for 190G, and had seen it gradually increase in price on the TP since then, going up to 330G. However, in the last 2 days it has shot up to 495G.
I think someone rich bought the whole supply (6 shields) and has simply relisted them 2-3 at a time, for a 150G premium each. That is not nice and it should not be allowed.
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There is a trick, actually. Dump all your random rares into the forge… I now know 2 people that dropped chest looted rares and got precursors. Of course it’s going to be a random pre, but it’s still worth it to sell it if it’s one you don’t want. If you do 8 events and loot 12-16 rares a day, there ya go.
There is a trick, actually. Dump all your random rares into the forge… I now know 2 people that dropped chest looted rares and got precursors. Of course it’s going to be a random pre, but it’s still worth it to sell it if it’s one you don’t want. If you do 8 events and loot 12-16 rares a day, there ya go.
Wait do you mean dropping random rare weapons on the mystic forge could still give you a precursor but just random? Like a completely random weapon type?
Its the same as dumping any 4 higher level mixed-type rares in: it has around a 20% chance of promoting to a random exotic, and all of the precursors are on the exotic drop table.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Well, true. It’s one of the first thing we learn about precursors and mystic forge around the first week, before someone discovered 4 weapons of the same kind are a better choice. If 4 weapons at least gives you a hope to get the same weapon and maybe the precursor version, 4 random object is truly a real spin of a roulette like put money on a random number of a roulette, and that number arrive. Once per life.
So Tribune you used 1540 daggers. How much does a rare dagger cost atm ?
I think its 38 to 40 silver.So you wasted around 600g to get it. The buy offer is 610g atm so you almost bought it. Gz but thats still a problem on the precursors
So Tribune you used 1540 daggers. How much does a rare dagger cost atm ?
I think its 38 to 40 silver.So you wasted around 600g to get it. The buy offer is 610g atm so you almost bought it. Gz but thats still a problem on the precursors
Cause the other ± 76 exotic daggers he got are completely worthless?
Good point Arvid i forgot about that. So the net amount of gold loss was? 76 exotics you say? around 210g . 400g then. Not bad after all. BUT theres always the chance that you ll never get it. What are you gonna do if you spend all those and never get a pre?
Well, true. It’s one of the first thing we learn about precursors and mystic forge around the first week, before someone discovered 4 weapons of the same kind are a better choice. If 4 weapons at least gives you a hope to get the same weapon and maybe the precursor version, 4 random object is truly a real spin of a roulette like put money on a random number of a roulette, and that number arrive. Once per life.
I honestly think the chances are equal, being that you have a chance at just about any pre-cursor as well as any other random item, i suspect it’s pretty much a wash. It only hurts a little to toss in 4 random rares you got as guaranteed drops, then if you crafted or bought them. Every couple days or so I could have 40 rares to toss in and almost every time i get surprised at what spits back out. Not to mention i’m not flooding the market with rares. I also do this with runes, when i decided to salvage my overs for ectos. 4 rares have often spit out some pretty expensive runes and it cost me no more than 4 uses of a kit, which is usually covered by the ectos return. It does pay to play, if you play it smart.
No doubt, if the random precursor you get is nothing more than more cash instasold, for you Keep going, after all you’re having fun, and the result can lead a lot of money.
Why not? Sometimes i do it too.
Some work hard praying their god every day just to get their preferred weapon, hehe.
For those players i wouldn’t suggest random rares with a random result
I would actually suggest those looking for a specific pre could do it too, simply based on them selling the unwanted one if they get it. Often times i end up making more money with the exotics i get back than the original 4 rares i put in. Either way, you’re getting more bang for your small effort and a G or two closer to buying your dream precursor.
got my dawn after spending 60-80g on lv80 rares gs (which i consider my self very lucky) and i thought I might get lucky again so.. i put all my remaing gold about 150g on rares… and no dice… lol
now back to grinding gold and start my new journey toward twilight
I just want to know what do i need to do to get dusk.
Can someone tell who do i need to kill, do i have to sell my soul?
I think i wasted 200g on rare gs and no luck.
Some people have 3 legendaries already and i cant even get 1 pre cursor.
Why is anyone buying rares? 300+ weaponsmith, huntsman, or artificer farm karka and skelk in southsun make zerker rares and throw in. Mithril elder wood and blood is easy to farm. then if you have the ecto, ori, and ancient wood, make apothecary weapons and sell on TP for lots of gold. All I’m doing for my dual sparks.
I’ll be rich, it will be painless and not a copper spend on weapons to flush or materials.
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I am currently working towards the hunter and it is a serious pain. The hunter seems to suffer more manipulation than any other precursor, just in the last month it has gone from around 450g to up to 900g, often having no copies on TP at all. What really bugs me though is that I could have bought it early on, but decided the prices might drop a bit (it was about 450g at the time…) now that I lost my chance I am just trying to get it from MF and it is seriously depressing. So far nearly a thousand rares and over 150 exotics have been flushed down the mystic toilet and all I got so far were 3 charzzookas and a bunch of 3-5g skins :/
Edit: spelling, way too tired and depressed to spell correctly :<
I am currently working towards the hunter and it is a serious pain. The hunter seems to suffer more manipulation than any other precursor, just in the last month it has gone from around 450g to up to 900g, often having no copies on TP at all. What really bugs me though is that I could have bought it early on, but decided the prices might drop a bit (it was about 450g at the time…) now that I lost my chance I am just trying to get it from MF and it is seriously depressing. So far nearly a thousand rares and over 150 exotics have been flushed down the mystic toilet and all I got so far were 3 charzzookas and a bunch of 3-5g skins :/
Edit: spelling, way too tired and depressed to spell correctly :<
Wow that really sucks dude. Anyway, I had a chance to buy the hunter before too(during ancient karka event) it went down to like 120 gold, and I still didnt buy it lol. 5 months after of being precursorless, I had enough of farming for the ridiculous price of hunter and decided to spend like 50 gold worth of rares(around 80 pieces). To my surprise, I got a hunter after using like 30 rares. I guess it’s just really comes down to pureluck. I’ve heard stories of people spending like 800g on TP and getting nothing, while I just spent only 30 gold and got a precursor.
Decided to Gamble abit yesterday so bought 4 lvl 76 exotic axes and threw Into the forge. . Boom i saw a skinn i never seen before and i realised i actually got the frostfang precursor) to bad it wasnt dusk or Dawn or i might have given it a thought to actually make a legendary
Decided to Gamble abit yesterday so bought 4 lvl 76 exotic axes and threw Into the forge. . Boom i saw a skinn i never seen before and i realised i actually got the frostfang precursor) to bad it wasnt dusk or Dawn or i might have given it a thought to actually make a legendary
well, since you threw 4 axes in it would have been impossible to get dusk or dawn, since those are greatswords. if you throw in 4 of a kind, you get back the same kind.
Tossed in another 50 short bows this morning and nada. Although i did manage to make a fairly good chunk back selling off the exotics it’s still a total bummer.
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
Grats to your luck then.
For exotics, a-a-a-a or a-a-a-b. So much for that theory. Rares i just combined whatever i had.
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Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.
I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
Now imagine of you would have sold all those rares and whatever total exotics you had not counting the ones you got from 4 rares of course. The rares alone at say 30s each is around 200g. You would almost halfway and that’s not even counting the exotics.
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Am I legendary yet!?
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
Now imagine of you would have sold all those rares and whatever total exotics you had not counting the ones you got from 4 rares of course. The rares alone at say 30s each is around 200g. You would almost halfway and that’s not even counting the exotics.
Now what if i told you that my total costs so far are under 100g? Doh!
Rashka the desert scout
<Vigilance> VIG
Sanctum of Rall
Each self crafted green I get a rare after I toss 4 into MF, everytime, but I noticed every time I bought 4 greens it usually came out green-
Is it better to use self crafted items? Like self crafted exotics .. I dont know to be honest. Ive been searching since March for it (the precursor) but I guess it could take a year or more to actually get it. I guess my point is Is it better to send self crafted rares/exotics in? Does that have something to do with the outcome?
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.
I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.
31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.
Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.
Personally I think you’re overselling TESO. I’ve heard the claim “X mmo is gonna kill everything when it comes out” and usually it holds true for about a month, then it becomes the same ole same ole and people go back to their old mmo…..
Well that’s not true. This game would have been a king now and for long with a superb success, if the company didn’t ruin everything with bugged patches, karka’s event, various scams during festivities, etc etc etc.
TESO has superb graphic, a promise of huge battles, a great lore , a huge fanbase.
What is needed? A company listening the playerbase , an active forum where the community is truly able to communicate with the dev team, release cleaned patches (and if new bugs will pop, fix them quickly, 24 hours later), an active support team (ingame too if possible), don’t release near the final launch fake videos of something will not work at all ingame (like the huge battles we are talking about), don’t make an other casino (like the mystic toilet the best way to get a precursor, no special tricks or combinations as we explained, enjoy , OP) and many more.
Basically the exact opposite of everything is gw2 about management will be a guaranteed success lol
Am i exagerating?
what makes you think they wont have lots of bugs, and long times between patches, Elder scrolls is an offline game and it is one of the hallmarks of bugged games. And as far as listening to playerbase, Elder scrolls as a series hasnt really done anything like that before.
Now im not saying they wont do better this time, but i dont know what your basing your opinion of how they will run the game on. They have really done nothing that warrants that belief.
I think people may enjoy teso, as long as they leave their preconcieved ideas about what kind of game its going to be at the door. I see many people saying how they will do X Y and Z, but i see no mention of it from the actual game company.
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.
I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.
31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.
Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.
At 864 rares (38 exo back) and 1608 exotics, no precursor yet. To quote Obi-Wan: “In my experience, there’s no such thing as luck”.
1608 exotics? ok buddy
Funny, even at the lowest priced exotic, you could have just bought the legendary for that kind of money.
Funny, you are wrong. Like i posted before, my total cost is a lot less than you think they are. They went up though because i extended the borders i am operating in; still under 200g though.
Rashka the desert scout
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Sanctum of Rall
No you are wrong, actually. Even if you could get an exotic for 1g (which you can’t) that’s 1600G. You can’t even craft one for 1g unless you farm all the mats and use BLSKs to salvage every rare you get as a drop, but even then, that’s a lot of kits and tools. At around 2g, which is a steal, you’re talking 3200g.
The only extremely remote possibility would be getting super lucky with the forge and upgrading thousands of masterwork items to rare, then to exotic. I don’t think there’s even enough stock for that, not to mention the fact that you have to get really lucky.
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.
I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.
31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.
Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.
I guess you’re right, you are one lucky person.
Just had The Legend yesterday for 21 gold (I didn’t count how much tries, but it should be quite easy to count). I gave it to a member of my guild. 4 precursors for less than 100 gold now, let’s keep on the good work
Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.
Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.
both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?
thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…
That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…
Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.
As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?
This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.
I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.
31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.
Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.
I guess you’re right, you are one lucky person.
Just had The Legend yesterday for 21 gold (I didn’t count how much tries, but it should be quite easy to count). I gave it to a member of my guild. 4 precursors for less than 100 gold now, let’s keep on the good work
If thats true and your theory is right.. You know… Proof please? Everyone can say “oh i gotten 4 precursors now for under 100 gold, this is the trick” But before you send me a spark, or give us prrof… Im sorry, but i wont believe you…
Im not saying your liar, but i think this sounds fishy
Keep going, after all you’re having fun, and the result can lead a lot of money.
