Guild Wars 2

154 obsidian shards gave me 10 mytic clovers….wtf? I just felt like all my hard work went down the drain.

rng is rng.
i have used about 50 so far and im at 20 clovers.
15char.

Use the 1x recipe. Took me about 1 stack of ectos for 77.

Rng is rng whichever recipe you use. 1x might be better for unlucky people though

Used to 10x recipe today myself with 150 obsidian shards and got 60 clovers. 10 in the bank so i’m 7 short now. So i had much better luck than you.

Took me about 270 shards to get 77…thats a mix of 10x and 1×....it was worse part of legendary

The mystic clovers are the reason why you need around 1 million karma for a legendary

Azelroth.6801:

The mystic clovers are the reason why you need around 1 million karma for a legendary

No, obsidian shards are the reason why you need 1mil karma for a legendary.
Gift of mastery and fortune should each require 250 shards each, though with the rng of mystic clovers – You could get kittened like me.

Ive spent 900k karma on my 77 clovers, not to mention the amount of gold for the ectos. Ruined my easy progress on other mats, but oh well.

I’ve used about 70 shards and got about 20 clovers, but I don’t mind missing on clovers if i get a T6 mat I can use instead.

Propaganda.8956:

Azelroth.6801:

The mystic clovers are the reason why you need around 1 million karma for a legendary

No, obsidian shards are the reason why you need 1mil karma for a legendary.
Gift of mastery and fortune should each require 250 shards each, though with the rng of mystic clovers – You could get kittened like me.

Ive spent 900k karma on my 77 clovers, not to mention the amount of gold for the ectos. Ruined my easy progress on other mats, but oh well.

What I’m trying to say is that without the mystic clovers you’d only need around 525K karma for the legendary. So yes, they’re the reason why you need around 1 million karma for a legendary.

I got everything done with 12 attempts of 10 clovers, and 10 attempts of 1 clover. Really rng, and I’d like to say here that doing 10-recipe may be a good idea to gather matts, for whatever reasons (other gifts, selling, etc).

I just dipped my toe with 8 tries and got one clover. I hate RNG

The entire concept behind gift of fortune is flawed and shouldn’t have been made.

Ireniicus.2167:

I just dipped my toe with 8 tries and got one clover. I hate RNG

Count your blessings. My first clover came on try 22. Right now sitting at 5 clovers and around 80 tries…. On the plus side, I got gossamer out of it -.-’’

OP, i fully understand your pain xD

My first 40 clovers i got with a 1/3 ratio. So from like about 120-130 shards…

The last 2 days i worked on my last 16 clovers…I used 149 attempts for the 16 clovers (with 1 recipe)…Which was just insane i got to say. + the last 10 (when i was ready to go berserk) i used a 10 recipes and got 10 clovers…Otherwise the number might have been bigger.

Mighty Assasin.3816:

I think the concept is accurate.

I think you missed my point entirely.

That the arduous path to a legendary shouldn’t depend on RNG. The entire idea behind gift of fortune should have been scrapped and replaced with something more deterministic, such as a DM or master crafter title.

Mighty Assasin.3816:

Getting lvl 400 crafting is a joke. Dungeons aren’t challenging.

As opposed to, I don’t know, the extreme challenge and hard work of clicking 5 times and waiting for smth to happen? I could see replacing the ectos(because that is the actual painful part of it all for me) with some item that you buy with achievement points as a good solution.

Mighty Assasin.3816:

I got my legendary so let’s kitten over everyone else.

Fixed that for ya.

I need the precursor, clovers were too easy for me and it’s much much much easier now that you guys have Jug of Karma and can buy Obsidian Shards for only 15 Fractal Relics, I don’t see the point of complaining about clovers anymore.

Shards were never the problem.

The problem is being kittened over repeatedly by the RNG just because Zom thought “Hey it’s that guy again, let’s kitten him over”.

I actually don’t have my legendary yet, I have everything except 20 mystic clovers and the 250 shards.

You already made through the hardest part of your legendary, unless it’s some easymode bullkitten like juggernaut.

I used between150 ~ 200 obsidian shards to get 77 mystic clovers. I didn’t mind this gamble because, I never actually lost, I always got some nice t6 mats, more shards or lodestones(very rare)

I used the low yield recipe, about 5~10 tries per day, I don’t have any SP, so at the end of the day I used what SP I made that day. Currently need to gain karma again, only at 100k and 4 SP atm.

Fender.3624:

154 obsidian shards gave me 10 mytic clovers….wtf? I just felt like all my hard work went down the drain.

when i started out i did 100 shard and got 0 clovers…

since then ive always done the 1x recipe instead of the 10x recipe

68 shards made 18 mystic clovers for me, about 26% chance for me, but it’s been confirmed to be 33%, I’ll chock it up to not being lucky enough. To be honest, I don’t mind, it’s materials I’ll use to craft the other parts anyways or perhaps sell any lodestones I don’t need for extra gold. On top of it all, while the possibility of creating a mystic clover is a gamble, I feel great when I see one, as it’s one more step towards completing my legendary.

It’ll all be worth it in the end, swinging around a legendary weapon, feeling like a boss.

Mighty Assasin.3816:

Sunrise actually, lol.

You have gift of Sunrise, I rest my case.

6/14 on singles

and then i got bored and salved 10 ecto tonight before bed so i gambled a bit more than usual.

1/1 tens
=]

I thought i was the only one. The past 110 tries only got me 10.

i’m tempted to go try for clovers now that i have 110 obsy shards. and have enough karma to get another 160 or so. which SHOULD be enough for 77 clovers given the stated ~30-33% success rate. but i’m gonna try to get a bit more befor ei go for ’em. around 300 shards. and then go for them all at once.

going in bit by bit, i feel can be slightly more taxing on the “psyche”. simply because you might get a streak of getting nothing. and you feel it’s a waste. or you might get like 1 for 1’s the first time. by the second batch you’r eonly getting half. you’re gonna feel it was nerfed. if you do it all in one go though, given it IS in fact around 33%, the more you do at once, the more likely it will even out to that ratio.

but that’s just me. there perhaps is a huge stroke of luck involved as well. but by doing it in batches, you’re leaving it more up to “luck”, seemingly, rather than allowing for probability to really show itself.

tl;dr

1) Karma isn’t that hard to get. I’m at over 1 million and I consider myself midway between casual and hardcore. Hint – WvW is a beautiful thing.

2) I love RNG. It’s the great equalizer. I have only 61 Clovers after using a stack of Shards and Ecto. If I keep trying, I’ll keep getting T6 mats when my roll fails. It’s a win/win for me. Forging is fun, because you never know what will pop out.

I’m at 49 Clovers for ~200 tries. I think if I had started on my Clovers at the beginning of my Legendary journey, I would have quit on it long ago. I hate RNG systems, and would like to egg the car of the person who decided that the ONE thing you cannot buy with gold should be random.

Seriously. That dude is the devil, and the Forge is a cold-hearted kitten.

At least I can take some comfort in the fact that I’m going for The Dreamer, which is probably one of the easiest Legendaries to acquire.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

2) I love RNG. It’s the great equalizer.

The Elitist Jerk doesn’t like to be put in the same pot as the Casual Scrub. Just saying.

It seems to me that the Clovers should be the first thing you go for, since the Tier 6 materials you get as “junk” still help you toward completing the weapon. If you do everything else first, then yeah, it’s not helpful.

Plus, when you get unneeded Lodestones, you can sell them on the TP for a pretty good profit.

For the first time that I have ever noticed, my server managed to succeed at the balthazar event… so I bought 400k karma worth of obsidian shards and took the few ectos I had laying around to make Mystic clover. I didn’t have a lot of ecto, only 34. I am not far along on the legendary, it is a long term goal; I figured that doing the clovers first would be a good start since it will supplement the t6 material requirement.

First, try for 10: No clover, and I forget what material and quantity I got, but it was a huge loss. Not cost effective at all.
Second, tone it down to a single shot. Success!
Try 10 more… Success!
Another 10… Success!
Another single… Success!
Another single… 4 T6 bloods, which is failure but still a profit.
Another single…. Success!
Another single…. Success!

So out of a potential 35, I got 24. I’m pretty happy with that.

I don’t expect my luck to continue, but I’m ahead of schedule on this particular component—a turn of bad luck still puts me on track for 12-18 months like I expected.

As expected, nearly 250 attempts – 77 clovers.
that’s pretty much 1/3 for me.
I did most of mine in a row by the way, it could have something to do with it, could have not…

I got 77 clovers from around 250 tries. I was so happy to get the final one.

248 shards used for 77 clovers (1 recipe) with a very poor success rate (@28%) until my last 20 shards where I got my final 15 clovers.

Iehova.9518:

That the arduous path to a legendary shouldn’t depend on RNG.

If you have a non-RNG way of getting loadstones (or even ectoplasm) without getting your face ripped off at the BLTC, I’d LOVE to hear about it…

Honestly, what part of the mats isn’t RNG? The dungeon gift, I guess…

I’ve been doing my clovers in sets of ~10-15 or so, when I get the ectos for it, and nearly every time, I’ve come out at the expected 33%.

Currently at 29 clovers, but that’s a third of the way there!

I’m a few hundred fine mats short anyway, so I’m in no rush. Packing stacks of mithril/leather/silk to forge into t6s when I get there, too – so s’all good. I’ll get there when I get there, and I’m super casual.

Right now I am above the curve so to speak. I have 22 mystic clovers and spent only 45 ectos. So basically I am getting a clover 49% of the time. I am sure I will hit the long rut soon but I got to get more ectos first lol.

Wow the RNG is really hiting me hard.

I decided to stick to the 10x recipe til i got 70 and it was not a good idea. To cut a long story short i used the recipe 16 times and got nothing….yes nothing. Decided to change to the 1x recipe after i was left with no skill points, karma, ecto’s and limited obsidian shards. I’ve done the 1x recipe 13 times now and have 4 clovers.

My luck through the whole game just seems really bad atm, see very little rare’s from full exotic MF gear/buffs anymore (tho im 100% sure the drop rate got stealth nerfed). As for the fractals, im now on level 20 having done a good two weeks of dailies…not 1 ring.

Anyway cry me a river huh, RNG is RNG and a system that i personally feel is required in games like these. Luck (alot of the time the bad kind) plays a part in all walks of life.

Chin up all, we’ll get our weaps eventually

Finally got my 77!! 265 total combines for a 29% at the end. Had a string of luck at the end that brought it up from 23% when I was around 55 clovers.

Anyway good luck to all you others working on this. Now about those charged lodestones…

Anyone got any tips on getting skill points. Atm im grinding Orr as much as possible. Philosophers stones/crystals are soulbound so cant level an alt and transfer them. Only other option im thinking off is taking up a 3rd craft. Just not sure if thats beneficial…

You cannot transfer the stones/crystals, but you can craft the mystic clovers with another character as they are account bound. One I used up all the excess (over 200) skill points on my main I just leveled an alt doing map exploration (for the skill points).

Then I bought the Philosopher stones and did the combines on my alt. The resulting clovers and t6 mats, being account bound, stacked with my others just fine.

I play causally(2-3 hours at a time) and I was able to get 75 skill points in a week or so on an alt. A lot faster I think then farming exp on an 80 with map completion.

Another idea is to use crafting – its possible to do a few professions quite cheaply and if you have mats in the bank, essentially “free”. I made about 30 skill points in a few hours doing this.

I made a note of my attempt “sessions”, using the recipe for 10, while I was trying to get my clovers.

1/9
3/6
2/3
0/1
1/2
0/1
0/1
0/1
1/1

80 from 25 attempts (250 globs/ecto/mystic coins/crystals)

I’ve done 378 attempts. I’ve gotten 67 clovers.

The wiki says 33% but im curious if anyone has an actually credible source on the drop chance of clovers. Getting half the “official” drop chance in a sample thats 2x the size of the source the wiki cites, might put the 33% thing to question.

I had alot of success with doing them 10 at a time as well.

I believe i got my 80 clovers within 25 tries as well.

Well you gotta remember also, 33% means per try. So in 9 tries, it doesn’t mean you are guaranteed 3 clovers. It means in each try has a 33% chance of succeeding. So you could get lucky and hit 3 in 10 or 5 in 10 or unlucky and hit 1 or 2 in 10. Regardless, clovers is by far the worst part to making the legendary. At least the other parts including the precursor, you can see what you will need. Clovers is just a crapshoot.

got my 77 clovers last night with 1x recipe
about 240-250 tries lost counts abit.

I’ve been doing them 1 by 1.

First try: 16 out of 46 tryes
Second try: 19 out of 65 tryes
Third time: 11 out of 29 tryes

Its a matter of luck, thats all I can say

Do the recipe for one clover. I got around 15 from my first ~40 tries.