So remind me again, why?

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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

Why? After almost 7 months do we still not have a way to work on precursors that does not involve rng? It could be from a vendor for 100 guild commendations, 100 laurels, 250 ectos and 250 obsidian shards for some kind of account bound reclaim ticket for an account bound precursor. I just want a way to work for it fairly.

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

ExTribble.7108

The “scavenger hunt” was not promised for the Jan-April months. I believe John Smith said that any news about the scavenger hunt being implemented soon would “shock the market”, which he doesn’t want to do.

Last we heard about this was a few months ago was that it was essentially in the brainstorming phase back then. I doubt we’ll get any updates as to it’s progress due to the whole shocking-the-market thing, so the only real option here is to wait. If you’re willing to be patient (no offense intended, but it doesn’t seem that way), work on everything except the precursor for your legendary(s) and just wait for the scavenger hunt to save some coin.

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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

The “scavenger hunt” was not promised for the Jan-April months. I believe John Smith said that any news about the scavenger hunt being implemented soon would “shock the market”, which he doesn’t want to do.

Last we heard about this was a few months ago was that it was essentially in the brainstorming phase back then. I doubt we’ll get any updates as to it’s progress due to the whole shocking-the-market thing, so the only real option here is to wait. If you’re willing to be patient (no offense intended, but it doesn’t seem that way), work on everything except the precursor for your legendary(s) and just wait for the scavenger hunt to save some coin.

Right, but it’s been 7 months, if waiting 7 months isn’t enough time. I don’t know what is an appropriate amount of time. I have everything else, but the precursor because i refuse to farm 600-700 gold to buy the colossus. I also refuse to buy 3rd party gold because there’s no point in finishing a legendary if it would be taken away from me if they found out I bought 3rd party gold.

Not to mention it’s a market who cares about “shock.” A market will still correct itself and life will go on. Also by saying “we aren’t doing anything” makes the prices go up even more and they become even more unreachable and is the same thing as “shock.”

From the sounds of the whole “scavenger hunt” it meets the exact same end I want to see. Except my way will probably require more work than looking at an eventual dulfy guide for it.

So what exactly is the problem with adding in a recipe that doesn’t involve rng to getting something account bound?

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

ExTribble.7108

I should clarify: By announcing the scavenger hunt being implemented, let’s say June, a double-shock will occur where the speculators start to force prices around rapidly, and then the prices shift again when it’s implemented since people will see what it actually is. So therefore, not announcing it will reduce the overall fluctuation of the prices. This might be considered better for the in-game economy to the developers. Personally, I couldn’t care less if they announce it or not, but I can see some reasoning as to why they chose to do it this way.

So what exactly is the problem with adding in a recipe that doesn’t involve rng to getting something account bound?

Never said I was against the idea. I support it wholeheartedly. If the developers have any sense, the precursors from the scavenger hunt will be account bound to keep people from doing the quest or whatever for a quick buck. A forge recipe that gives a precursor should also remain account bound. No argument here.

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and style to turn them into craters and dust.” -Tonn
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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

I should clarify: By announcing the scavenger hunt being implemented, let’s say June, a double-shock will occur where the speculators start to force prices around rapidly, and then the prices shift again when it’s implemented since people will see what it actually is. So therefore, not announcing it will reduce the overall fluctuation of the prices. This might be considered better for the in-game economy to the developers. Personally, I couldn’t care less if they announce it or not, but I can see some reasoning as to why they chose to do it this way.

Okay that makes more sense.

Never said I was against the idea. I support it wholeheartedly. If the developers have any sense, the precursors from the scavenger hunt will be account bound to keep people from doing the quest or whatever for a quick buck. A forge recipe that gives a precursor should also remain account bound. No argument here.

The meat of my post that i was trying to get at was: Why hasn’t this solution(or at least some variation) gone through yet? I’m trying to figure out logically a reason for this. Because we all know the weak attempts at just chugging a few precursors with the karka event box or adding a new way of rng from guild missions were not going to fix the problem directly.

Edit: It feels like back in warhammer online When Mark Jacobs(mythic entertainment president) said “aoe is fine, quit whining” Then he got the sack. I feel like history is repeating itself.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

The meat of my post that i was trying to get at was: Why hasn’t this solution(or at least some variation) gone through yet? I’m trying to figure out logically a reason for this.

Because while a precursor is high priority for you, it’s not broken enough for ANet to rush for a solution that may cause more problems than it solves and delay other content? I can think of several more reasons, but that’s my front runner right now.

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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

The meat of my post that i was trying to get at was: Why hasn’t this solution(or at least some variation) gone through yet? I’m trying to figure out logically a reason for this.

Because while a precursor is high priority for you, it’s not broken enough for ANet to rush for a solution that may cause more problems than it solves and delay other content? I can think of several more reasons, but that’s my front runner right now.

Give me more then, because it is not just me who is in the exact same situation and have given input on this over time in numerous threads. Also any solution will probably be considered “rushed” because hind-sight does that, in fact I consider the band-aids were rushed.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

The meat of my post that i was trying to get at was: Why hasn’t this solution(or at least some variation) gone through yet? I’m trying to figure out logically a reason for this.

Because while a precursor is high priority for you, it’s not broken enough for ANet to rush for a solution that may cause more problems than it solves and delay other content? I can think of several more reasons, but that’s my front runner right now.

Give me more then, because it is not just me who is in the exact same situation and have given input on this over time in numerous threads. Also any solution will probably be considered “rushed” because hind-sight does that, in fact I consider the band-aids were rushed.

Ok, I can rephrase the most likely reason… While it’s high priority to you and some other folks on the forums, it’s not broken enough to rush a solution that may not solve the problem entirely, may cause other problems and will delay content like SAB that many players found more interesting than trying to get one of the three most popular precursors.

Not all precursors are outrageously expensive, and the vast majority of players don’t post on the forums. Just because some folks grouse on the forums doesn’t mean that a fix is urgently needed. I’m not saying no fix is needed, I’m just saying that number of posts on the forum is not a measure of urgency.

If ANet let the number of forum posts dictate their priorities, I’d say the reason for the delay in changing the supply of precursors would be because ANet was scrambling around trying to get mounts into the game and making it rain BLC keys.

OK, that was snarkier than I intended – sorry. My point is there is a lot of stuff folks are complaining about, and changing the precursor situation will impact the entire GW2 economy, which impacts every single player whether they’re interested in getting a precursor or not. As someone who has no interest in fancy great swords or hammers, I would like ANet to be thoughtful about how they proceed.

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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

I hear what you are saying and there is a nice little statistics formula for doing sampling and determining whether or not something is a problem or not(can’t remember the name).

I feel that point was reached(during the karka event period) because of the pinned thread about precursors becoming out of reach. So Anet does recognize it as a big problem and tried a band-aid, but that ended poorly.

Now that i think about the whole precursor situation more in depth the T6 mats and lodestones will become an even bigger problem as more people will want to make legendaries if the hardest part isn’t that hard (or won’t be made as hard with a scavenger hunt). I guess it’s better to peg the problem on precursors rather than the overall design at the moment.

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Posted by: Sithaco.4673

Sithaco.4673

Hello! I too think precursor’s are a problem, my view on the situation is that there is nothing ‘Legendary’ about farming like 600g (I am going for The Dreamer) in CoF or on the TP or getting lucky in the Mystic Toile- Forge…

I knew I wasn’t going to go for either of those options, so I went for everything else first, and about a week ago I finished everything except my precursor, now I am just having some fun in the game and waiting and hoping that Arenanet (although I am pretty confident that they have recognized this to be a problem) do something about it. I am hoping after the final sequence in Flame and Frost they might start implementing this, but that’s just me.