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Posted by: erigais.6805

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Real talk. they look like kitten. lets be honest here. compare GS, Juggernaught or bolt to something like the scepter or focus, its a world of quality difference yet the uphill climb is the same. no one is breaking their neck to buy bard off the trading house, you know why? cuz its junk. ill never forget reading the forum from the first person who crafted it, “what a dissapointment, wish i could get my money back”

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

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Yeah, there is a rather sparing difference between the look and style of the Legendary Greatswords (and arguably some others like the Hammer, Sword etc.) and all the other Legendaries.

While taste is subjective some weapons don’t even have particle effects or footprints. They are virtually indistinguishable from regular weapons when not in use.

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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Yeah, there is a rather sparing difference between the look and style of the Legendary Greatswords (and arguably some others like the Hammer, Sword etc.) and all the other Legendaries.

While taste is subjective some weapons don’t even have particle effects or footprints. They are virtually indistinguishable from regular weapons when not in use.

exactly, take the juggernaught for example. when you wield it your whole armor takes on a metallic sheen. with, bolt lightning surrounds you and touches the ground. even frostfang has foot prints of ice it leaves behind. they look and appear legendary. i understand tastes different but its not hard to see a little but more effort went into some of these to appear “legendary” than the rest. i dont want people thinking what karma vendor i bought my item from i want them thinking “holy kitten is that a legendary weapon?”

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

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To be honest, that goes for a lot of caster weapons. There aree all kinds of fiery, lightning or other sweet swords…and then there are staves, which if you’re lucky have some mediocore effect that you hardly notice.

Compare a Fiery Dragon Sword to Melandru’s Staff for example…and then to the old GW1 Celestial Staff. I’m still hoping they’ll reïntroduce that one.

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Posted by: DanteZero.9736

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I miss some of the old staves of GW1 like the Embercrest staff. Spell caster legendaries are very lackluster.

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Posted by: Lorana.2468

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they will be patched to have special effects eventually, it’s just something they havent got around to yet.

take for example Sunrise, look at the Beta footage of the weapon, and then the retail version of it now, massive difference.

obviously the Greatswords were the first things they focused on, Arenanet wasnt expecting so many people (although still small) to get legendaries so soon.
even Eternity has no footprints unlike Twilight & Sunrise.

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Posted by: TabMorte.5297

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Bitfrost looks awesome. The septer and focus though are meh.

Honestly compared to the great swords ALL the other legendaries are lacking.

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Posted by: Mad Rasputin.7809

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As an engineer that uses pistols.. I feel your pain.

Quip?? Really?? No thanks.

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Posted by: Leo Paul.1659

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If they can make an awesome choir bell, why couldn’t they make a good the Minstrel? Seriously, that legendary needs an upgrade the most.

Maybe give out of combat skills for it and allow us to play music or something.

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Posted by: Tweek.3190

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Bitfrost looks awesome. The septer and focus though are meh.

Honestly compared to the great swords ALL the other legendaries are lacking.

I prefer incinerator and bolt over great swords any time. And its bifrost btw, there is no T in there.

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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I wish they could at least tell us if they have no plans to update the affects as making one is quite the undertaking.

Everyday i debate with guildmates whether its worth working on one if its not one of the melee weapons because there are a few i have in mind but i just feel like its not worth the effort that i could be putting into something thats worth it.

*edit. i gave up, im working on bolt or infinite light. if im gonna slam my dick into a mouse trap i might as well make it worth it.

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Posted by: Akali Del Nashor.3895

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The effect of this weapon is still nice

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Posted by: Dempsey.8760

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Bitfrost looks awesome. The septer and focus though are meh.

Honestly compared to the great swords ALL the other legendaries are lacking.

I prefer incinerator and bolt over great swords any time. And its bifrost btw, there is no T in there.

Look at your keyboard. Now back to this. Now back to the keyboard. Look how close T is to F and R. Now back at this. It’s name is The Bifrost not just bifrost. lmao

Troll free for a moment however.
I almost feel your pain here guys, I know my main is a warrior but, I am not a cheesy greatsword warrior I use axe/shield and in my personal taste Frost fang looks terrible. I only think that because I saw a guy with it and it too 2 glances to realize it wasn’t a corrupted axe and when I bash things with a shield I want to hit them with a kitten looking shield not a book. >.>
And yeah a lot of people like the GSs but really? I seriously think too much work went into them. The look really… cartoony. Not Quipp cartoony but like some freaking bleach cartoony, just..bad.
That aside Incinerator looks ok and of course The Bifrost, I wish the warhorn looked cool too :/

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

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It could be worse.

You could be stuck with the mace.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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Agree 100%. I was going for the Meteorlogicus, then I saw some videos and was extremely disappointed. So I when for The Anomaly instead.

Much better and takes half the time to get.

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Posted by: Felicela.2810

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Quip is something that Dr Seuss would use.

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Posted by: Pinkcomet.2975

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Dreamer owner here, Why Unicorn sound effect is so… mono-tone.

You know… if you cant find Unicorn at least record it from some horse
not from sick chicken.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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They should make more legendaries for every class theme. For example the shield. That’s a Guardian shield. Only Guardians can look good wielding one (of course, they have that oversized Aegis effect ruining the whole thing, but that’s another issue). I can’t see a warrior dressed all in spikes with a rusty axe in one hand and a gleaming book-shield in another.

Bifrost is great for elementalists – really not so much for necromancers. They need their own themed legendary.

And so on and so forth. Personally, I will be going for some non-legendaries which look way better on my character for half the time/money/effort invested. Incinerator is a good example… it’s too technical. It’s a gadget, something a thief maybe would use (only problem, a thief with a frikkin’ torch, not very subtle), or engineer, if they could use daggers.

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Posted by: Shakki.3219

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They should make more legendaries for every class theme. For example the shield. That’s a Guardian shield. Only Guardians can look good wielding one (of course, they have that oversized Aegis effect ruining the whole thing, but that’s another issue). I can’t see a warrior dressed all in spikes with a rusty axe in one hand and a gleaming book-shield in another.

Bifrost is great for elementalists – really not so much for necromancers. They need their own themed legendary.

And so on and so forth. Personally, I will be going for some non-legendaries which look way better on my character for half the time/money/effort invested. Incinerator is a good example… it’s too technical. It’s a gadget, something a thief maybe would use (only problem, a thief with a frikkin’ torch, not very subtle), or engineer, if they could use daggers.

I got The Bifrost for over 2months now on my Necromancer and i like it. White themed Armor and it fits perfect. (:

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Well, a white themed necro is unusual, so you don’t exactly fit the overall tone. Necromancers are usually associated with black for obvious reasons, throw in all shades of grey, dark green, red… for example a staff with a similar effect to the necromancer’s Death Shroud ability, or perhaps a shifting green glow, would fit much better than the rainbows of Bifrost. And for those who want a lighter theme, like yourself, you are also covered with Bifrost.

Not really sure why they didn’t do a greater range of legendaries. I do 3D artwork and designing a few more models and adding unique particle effects is NOT that time and resource consuming as one might think.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Or even better… add coloring ability to particles and model skins, like what we have for armor. Although I would fear the prevalence of ghastly pink swords in that case.

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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Like i was saying i can understand different tastes on weapons and stuff and how some people could prefer one of the other, but like that frostfang guy said, it only takes you 2 seconds to look at some of these and realize its not worth the effort.

All the while you got some guy swinging sunrise around and your like “O KITTEN IS THAT A LEGENDARY WAY OVER THERE THAT I CAN SEE FROM HERE BECAUSE ITS GLOWING AND HE IS A LEGENDARY PLAYER??”.

I would like to go for something like the bard and have people say “Hey look its the legendary focus!” not “i wonder what karma vendor sells that.” Meteorologist looks cool an all if you are up on the character but think about this, the juggernaught changes your entire armor skin. your ENTIRE armor gets a metallic sheen. When you run by someone with a meteorologist the chances are you wont even notice it.

Once i ran all of TA with someone who had one and didnt even notice till at the end part after the boss when i was zooming in on people. Do you think that would have happened with twilight, sunrise, the juggernaught, the shield, or bolt? of course not they out bling the spell caster legendaries by far and it shows.

TBH guys i dont think anet will edit anything with these weapons. If you happen to come across this thread dont even bother complaining, just use it as a heads up; that if your going to go for a legendary make it count. Go for something swordy and melee so you dont get disappointed once you craft the minstrel or quip.

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Posted by: TWMagimay.9057

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They should make more legendaries for every class theme. For example the shield. That’s a Guardian shield. Only Guardians can look good wielding one (of course, they have that oversized Aegis effect ruining the whole thing, but that’s another issue). I can’t see a warrior dressed all in spikes with a rusty axe in one hand and a gleaming book-shield in another.

Bifrost is great for elementalists – really not so much for necromancers. They need their own themed legendary.

And so on and so forth. Personally, I will be going for some non-legendaries which look way better on my character for half the time/money/effort invested. Incinerator is a good example… it’s too technical. It’s a gadget, something a thief maybe would use (only problem, a thief with a frikkin’ torch, not very subtle), or engineer, if they could use daggers.

Necros have no right to complain about staff skins. Seriously, every single good looking staff in this game has a dead look. BOTH Halloween skins, the pact weapon, the mythical Final Rest. And what does my ele get? A blue ball on a stick and a pink shiney, again, on a stick. Oh, right, and the oversized torch. I’m going for The Bifrost because that’s the one pretty staff that would work(also, my dream is to be a leprechaun, but I can’t equip The Dreamer).

That aside, I do agree there needs to be more variety when it comes to skins, especially with legendaries and event items(I’m still choking on the toy staff vs princess wand thing)…or at least more general themes(because I just can’t see my mesmer shooting butterflies out of the Halloween legendary…I just can’t make it work)

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Well, my main is actually an elementalist, I was just talking about the lack of a good legendary staff for necros, not lack of good necro staff skins.

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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I just can’t see my mesmer shooting butterflies out of the Halloween legendary…I just can’t make it work

lollllllllllllll

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Posted by: TWMagimay.9057

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Well, my main is actually an elementalist, I was just talking about the lack of a good legendary staff for necros, not lack of good necro staff skins.

Frankly, I’d rather have 10 perfectly good skins for under 30g each than 1 good skin for 800g. But that’s just me…always looking for a good deal xD

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Posted by: Ballistic.4531

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One question for Necros with Bifrost: Do you still get that reaper’s black scythe on top of the staff?
That would be so bad…

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Posted by: Predator.7321

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One question for Necros with Bifrost: Do you still get that reaper’s black scythe on top of the staff?
That would be so bad…

Yes you do

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Posted by: Horheristo.3607

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Can’t wait to finish Juggernaut.
Already owns Sunrise so I do wonder if both effects of Sunrise glow and Jugger’s chromatic look will mix together. (the shine stays after you swing Sunrise around and switching weapons)

Epic :o

EDIT:
I agree that aside the GS, hammer and the staff…. even bolt and the shield along with the rest of the legendaries are quite underwhelming.
For same reason that most players won’t equip an asura with any legendary simply because you can hardly notice it.

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Posted by: Shakki.3219

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One question for Necros with Bifrost: Do you still get that reaper’s black scythe on top of the staff?
That would be so bad…

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Oh man, that sucks! XD One more reason to have a dark themed legendary staff.

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Posted by: Ballistic.4531

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One question for Necros with Bifrost: Do you still get that reaper’s black scythe on top of the staff?
That would be so bad…

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Oh wow… That’s just awful!

Thanks for sharing. Will have to rethink if I’m going to put Bifrost on my necro.

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Posted by: Vick.6805

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The game’s selection of staffs is awful right now. Out of all the staffs on the market, The Bifrost is the only one with a noteworthy particle effect. Even the Corrupted Branch is mediocre, when so many of the weapons in that set are awesome. Staffs are even left out of certain weapon sets that otherwise have great effects (example: the purple illusion weapon family…I understand that there isn’t a staff-wielding illusion, but…really?). The HoM staff has one of the better effects, but isn’t available to everyone (unless they’re going to delve back into GW).

All in all, I really hope that future weapons show extra effort put into items other than melee weapons, and offer more options than rainbows and negligible effects.

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Posted by: Skyblue.9358

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DeadWishis much better for Necros:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathwish

Best for Deadwish is that it only cost 10G in TP instead of 700G+ for the legendary staffs. (WTH that an exotic staff look better than the legendary!)

Final Rest also good but still don’t know how to get it:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Final_Rest

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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DeadWishis much better for Necros:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathwish

Best for Deadwish is that it only cost 10G in TP instead of 700G+ for the legendary staffs. (WTH that an exotic staff look better than the legendary!)

Final Rest also good but still don’t know how to get it:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Final_Rest

they could put a glow aura and a light trail around it like twilight and have it shoot out skulls. bam. legendary.

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Posted by: rchu.8945

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yea, legendary weapons for casters are meh, but at least Elementalists can use Inicnerator, and Mesmer one of the two great swords…

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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yea, legendary weapons for casters are meh, but at least Elementalists can use Inicnerator, and Mesmer one of the two great swords…

yeh but guardians can use scepter, focus, and staff… they all suck. not really interested in using hammer or gs, and bolt is no less then 10 billion gold to get a hold of. its not just the light armor classes that gotta put up with this

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Posted by: Jaxon.5392

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The game’s selection of staffs is awful right now. Out of all the staffs on the market, The Bifrost is the only one with a noteworthy particle effect. Even the Corrupted Branch is mediocre, when so many of the weapons in that set are awesome. Staffs are even left out of certain weapon sets that otherwise have great effects .

I find Melandru’s Gaze to be a super staff with the glowing green oozing out of the eye of the staff, think they did a great job with this one (this picture doesn’t capture the effect but in game it looks sweet).
But still, Bifrost looks far too much like a candy cane

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Posted by: Heylo.4938

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I agree that a lot of the caster legendaries are very specific to certain classes. I feel bad for all the necros out there who want to be legendary and only have rainbows, harps, and globes to choose from. As a Mesmer and a rainbow lover, I happen to be in luck. I’m aiming for the bifrost first and then maybe a greatsword. I wanted a legendary scepter for my ele, but I just HATE how it looks. I’ll probably go for Immobulous and then the legendary dagger.

I do have to say that the legendary hammer doesn’t look a lot like an actual hammer…but it’s still mofo-ing awesome! I’m trying to convince my bf to get it on his guardian…but he wants Twilight.

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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I agree that a lot of the caster legendaries are very specific to certain classes. I feel bad for all the necros out there who want to be legendary and only have rainbows, harps, and globes to choose from. As a Mesmer and a rainbow lover, I happen to be in luck. I’m aiming for the bifrost first and then maybe a greatsword. I wanted a legendary scepter for my ele, but I just HATE how it looks. I’ll probably go for Immobulous and then the legendary dagger.

I do have to say that the legendary hammer doesn’t look a lot like an actual hammer…but it’s still mofo-ing awesome! I’m trying to convince my bf to get it on his guardian…but he wants Twilight.

while i can see someone not wanting a legendary because it doesnt fit their char style or rp well its not even about that. its about the whole package of effects that goes with it. all the bells, whistles, footsteps and sounds that go along with a legendary. its really strange to have some with amazing effects foots steps, glow, trails etc, and then you get something like the minstrel.. that falls short of something like halloween chainsaw, princess wand or even mystic forge items, let alone a legendary.

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Posted by: Gaudrath.6725

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Dang it, I want a legendary staff that follows my attunement!

-burst into flames when in fire
-freeze over when in water
-turn into a shaft of lightning when in Air
-and some weird spinning floating stone assembly when in Earth

That too much to ask? :p

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Posted by: Auri El.1032

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I agree that a lot of the caster legendaries are very specific to certain classes. I feel bad for all the necros out there who want to be legendary and only have rainbows, harps, and globes to choose from. As a Mesmer and a rainbow lover, I happen to be in luck. I’m aiming for the bifrost first and then maybe a greatsword. I wanted a legendary scepter for my ele, but I just HATE how it looks. I’ll probably go for Immobulous and then the legendary dagger.

Don’t forget, necro can use axe and dagger too! Yay frostfang!

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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4 months pass, they are still bad. i still havent build the minstrel, why bother.

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Posted by: ShadowMaster.5708

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People want to much effects. I LOVE meteorolicus for the skin. I think it looks amazing. Better than most legendaries. Im not one of them “NO EFFECT?! WHAT A WASTE!” guys… I love the skin of it

But im close to incinerator now so…

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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People want to much effects. I LOVE meteorolicus for the skin. I think it looks amazing. Better than most legendaries. Im not one of them “NO EFFECT?! WHAT A WASTE!” guys… I love the skin of it

But im close to incinerator now so…

yes if people make a legendary they want affects. “i like wooden pole, wooden pole so good, i like look of wood”, do you realize how hard you are trying to pretend like the spell caster legendaries are equal to some of the melee ones?

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Posted by: Leo Paul.1659

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Please look at the minstrel, then look at all of your other legendaries.

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Posted by: ShadowMaster.5708

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People want to much effects. I LOVE meteorolicus for the skin. I think it looks amazing. Better than most legendaries. Im not one of them “NO EFFECT?! WHAT A WASTE!” guys… I love the skin of it

But im close to incinerator now so…

yes if people make a legendary they want affects. “i like wooden pole, wooden pole so good, i like look of wood”, do you realize how hard you are trying to pretend like the spell caster legendaries are equal to some of the melee ones?

Actually… I dont like twilight. Sunrise is pretty cool though. I love the bifrost its probably my favourite legendary. i dont want this huge effects splashing all over my screen

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Posted by: Zanshin.5379

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Anet just needs to make new legendaries.

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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I like bifrost.. If i had a ranger that i played often or a thief i would also look into getting the dreamer (not a caster weapon i know). Still if i every bother going for one, i’ll be getting bifrost.

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