Guild Wars 2

I find it funny how player complaint about Precursors being too expensive to claim, A-net gives in and settles for a compromise.
The results? Some of the more/harder to farm important T6 Mats hitting 20s+ each from 2s-4s [Before A-net announces a compromise].

People complained;
Precursors may have dropped in prices, A-net may be coming out with “more” [not necessarily easier] ways to get a precursor. SO prices for “other” mats raised
People will complain again lol

Actually, bots were banned and that’s why prices are going up.

andeysmandey.1647:

Actually, bots were banned and that’s why prices are going up.

Yes I that is a huge factor to the cause but I also believe the entire precursor price drop is another big factor to the recent inflation

Banning bots has caused prices to spike 50-200%, across wide sectors of the economy? That seems implausible. As I look at data from GW2spidy.com, the supply of items hasn’t dropped by much, but the demand is rising. This is something that I would expect as the game matures: more people playing longer have more money and are willing to spend more to buy things that they want.

Actually the prices are just returning to normal – before the crazy influx of bots if you remember the prices of T6 mats back then you’ll remember that they’re very close to where they are now (the only minor difference is there are more players stockpiling mats now because of the rumored new crafting recipes due to be released).

i think both are contributors to varying degrees. since ANet mentioned they’ll be releasing new ways or procuring the pre-cursor, even though we don’t know what it is yet, more people feel like the have hope of getting one now – so stock up on the mats!

Prices are rising to what they were before all the bots.

You’ll also notice that basic crafting materials are falling in price as well, since the demand of things like ore/wood are directly tied to their counter-parts in fine crafting materials, yet have a much larger/more stable supply source.

Its good or bad depending if you are a supplier or buyer.

prices have surpassed previous records and keep going up.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Banning bots has caused prices to spike 50-200%, across wide sectors of the economy? That seems implausible. As I look at data from GW2spidy.com, the supply of items hasn’t dropped by much, but the demand is rising. This is something that I would expect as the game matures: more people playing longer have more money and are willing to spend more to buy things that they want.

At seems implausible at first glance…but i think it’s more about how bot worked than the supply/demand thing…
Think about it…they’re bots…they need gold fast and they didn’t make them to work in a smart way…now guess that every time they sell even only one…idk…one scale…they sell this scale…now suppose they put those bots to sell items for 1 copper less than lowest seller (found many times ppl selling 1 material for 1 copper less)…so what do you get ? with thousands of those bots selling again and again for lower and lower…and ppl sell even for less the stacks…because they have no patience and need money fast….that prices drops as hell.
The fact that the supply hasn’t dropped much is mainly caused by ppl actually restarting to farm mats to make money…from 30-40 copper to 2+s for a easy drop t5 mats ? come here baby let’s farm to death, i need that legendary weapon and money don’t grow on trees (unless you chop them lol)

I think it’s more the hype of the fact that new events = new items = new recipes for the MF = might need those t6 stuff. Once the weekend thing dies down, im sure prices will lower back to reasonable levels (like 12+s for vial of p.blood)

At least t6 materials can be grinded fairly consistently, or slowly buy a stock of them over time. Unlike pre-cursors where you would not have made any progress whatsoever after throwing 1000 weapons into the Forge without getting a pre-cursor.

I have half a stack of Elaborate Totems I was compiling for my gift of might but I am really tempted to sell it and make 25g (ish).

How confident is everyone that the price will eventually drop to a more reasonable price? I really don’t want to cash in on this inflation and have totems grow even more expensive later…

yea im gona say banning bots did some but alot of people will horde mats when speculations come about of something going to change then they dump them as soon as they figure out whats going to raise and lower whats needed and what is going to be over stock.

Will drop back to normal very soon, there are more bots in training you know
Anet does the banning in waves, so what are a few accounts bans for our chinese friends?

A 600g legendary sounds more attractive to me, hopefully that will be the case soon, so I can leave this part behind me and focus on other aspects of the game.

I just think that the new infusion gear is playing a role here. They need stacks of T6 mats to forge and create them. Anet has added a new use for T6 mats so naturally there is going to be a higher demand.

Graill.8596:

The only thing anyone is seeing are farmers and gold sellers on threads like these trying to “push” artifical mats pricing. This will pass, t6 mats are dropping alot faster now, i picked up 7 armored scales today among other t6 mats and i do not farm, zero MF, i detest the farming mechanic and the people that try to manipulate the trading post by simply typing this or that and hoping people will buy into it.

I will also state for fact that a good portion of these farmers are in fact gold sellers or represent gold sellers and post on the forums or twitter or reddit or whatever brainless media outlet is available for manipulation purposes, if you do not think this happens you are foolish. The forums are their best advertisement and manipulation tools.

Anyone with common sense will see this and ignore the hype by farmers on threads like these and others touting what they want to see in the way of materials. Guess what farmers, you are not the center of the universe anymore.

T6 mat drops have increased, do not let the farmers or the gold sellers run the trading post. I do not.

This kitten need to be sticky, so noobs don’t get tricked by gold sellers

There will always be one of the variables that make up a recipe as the limiting factor, into which the money pours and as the queue builds the price rises.

This is fine and to be expected (and nothing really to get excited by accurately predicting). The reason that more precursors are good, and crucially more that are obtained from a different method, is because the old source of precursors was a high stakes gamble with a very low and unestablished probability of success.

It encourages a lot of reckless attempts to get the precursor and can result in people having wildly different expectations of their chances of success relative to the real unknown odds (much like trying to get special halloween items with purchased keys from the BLC).

Introducing new sources of precursors, for those who still need to be lucky, but are doing something which is rewarding in its own right beyond a pure gamble for a precursor is a great idea.

If you get lucky from the chest, great! If not hopefully you enjoyed the event and get some other rewarding loot (even if its significantly lesser rewarding).

This has to be good news, compared to throwing gold into the forge and crossing your fingers.

T6 mats are now used to make the ascended back slots, speculation before and now confirmation after has caused the price to spike up.

And again, Blood is most expensive because Berserker is one of the most popular items. And thats what people want for their ascended backslot. But being 250 bloods for 1 backslot, you can imagine that demand has skyrocketed.

Ascended back piece: 250 t6 mats.
Infusion with base stats: 100 t6 mats.
Versatile infusion with base stats: 250 t6 mats.

I believe this was done purposely (more new t6 recipes) to raise the value of t6 craft mats. Which is fair because t6 should be the top tier and most expensive of the lot. So mission accomplished I think.

Deleting bots and making new gear that needs a lot of t6 mats was probably the only way to make market normal. These prices are right now as they should be (they will go a little bit lower probably in next months). And I’m one of these people that do not have them stocked so I’ll have to grind/buy them for ascended/legendary items. But at last I can also make some money on the market.

you all seem to forget that we have a very god new source for bloods – the new map. Drop rate is good there so supply will rise.

I have to say i am quite impressed of how smart A-net addressed the market problems:

- Add new recipes for back items that increase demand for T6 rares and ectos
+ Increase supply for bloods from the new map
+ increase supply of rares via the all dungeons aka increase the supply of ectos
+ increase the drop rates of cores and lodestones

End result will probably be:

• Price of T6 bloods will fluctuate a lot, T5 bloods will get la bit lower.
• Lodestone will drop – a good thing considering they are the main ingredients in all craftable runes (in legendaries tooof course).

I have to say i give them an A- for the balancing of the market.

I work over the road and a lot of my guild have full time jobs and families. I bought this game with the idea as I did with gw1. I can simply achieve everything without using rl$ and have the gratification of achievement because I earned everything without assistance. Gw1 obsidian armor I farmed everything to get it. Along with most of my titles. I’m sure there are other players that did the same. So when someone thinks farmers ruin the game? Mmo’s need farmers to make it a game and preserve the longevity and competition. Sense of accomplishing something. There are several honest farmers out there. All my guild consist of it. For those that do it dishonestly then they answer to themselves because now they are not playing a game. Cheating I
or trying to manipulate the system is not rewarding at all. That’s what a game is for. Self fulfillment.

Grezko.7950:

you all seem to forget that we have a very god new source for bloods – the new map. Drop rate is good there so supply will rise.

I have to say i am quite impressed of how smart A-net addressed the market problems:

- Add new recipes for back items that increase demand for T6 rares and ectos
+ Increase supply for bloods from the new map
+ increase supply of rares via the all dungeons aka increase the supply of ectos
+ increase the drop rates of cores and lodestones

End result will probably be:

• Price of T6 bloods will fluctuate a lot, T5 bloods will get la bit lower.
• Lodestone will drop – a good thing considering they are the main ingredients in all craftable runes (in legendaries tooof course).

I have to say i give them an A- for the balancing of the market.

I agree. This move was necessary to bring the t6 mats in line with the appropriate tier/market values.

Increasing lodestone drop rates was also an excellent decision. It’s a win-win for everyone.

Azelroth.6801:

Grezko.7950:

you all seem to forget that we have a very god new source for bloods – the new map. Drop rate is good there so supply will rise.

I have to say i am quite impressed of how smart A-net addressed the market problems:

- Add new recipes for back items that increase demand for T6 rares and ectos
+ Increase supply for bloods from the new map
+ increase supply of rares via the all dungeons aka increase the supply of ectos
+ increase the drop rates of cores and lodestones

End result will probably be:

• Price of T6 bloods will fluctuate a lot, T5 bloods will get la bit lower.
• Lodestone will drop – a good thing considering they are the main ingredients in all craftable runes (in legendaries tooof course).

I have to say i give them an A- for the balancing of the market.

I agree. This move was necessary to bring the t6 mats in line with the appropriate tier/market values.

Increasing lodestone drop rates was also an excellent decision. It’s a win-win for everyone.

OH LS increase huh?! I might be able to craft my Ogre Runes for free now AWESOME! Thanks for that!

Can someone confirm where AN have stated that lodestones/cores are dropping more regularly?

Also Where bar dungeons do they drop. I farmed CoF yesterday on two toons and nothing.

I’ve received 5 cores in the fractals for 4 days. 2 charged cores, 2 destroyer cores and 1 onyx. That’s where the increase is coming from (cannot give information about other dungeons). Price of charged lodestones have dropped from 2.5G to 1.8g already.

No prices will be coming down anywhere until bots come back, or the drops rate is increased by like 60000% percent. If you are tempted to sell your legendary required items, don’t do it.

Bots were banned and now the ascended items take a bloody kitten at us with 250 of T6 materials for everything.

Want to craft a back? 250 T6 mats and 50 Ektos. Want to upgrade that? 250 ektos, want an infusion with stats? 100 T6 mats.

Its simply crazy how many materials you need for everything. Why always full stacks? Why not a sensibale mount of 25 or 50 and 10 Ektos?

Why does A-Net need to inflate prices like mad with this?
its not fun grinding 100 gold simply for an infused back piece if you cant exploit the market or some other thing ingame or find a precursor daily.

Getting maybe 3 gold per hour would be really good so it takes like 30 hours just to get the back piece, infuse? another 30 hours, you can upgrade that again for another 30 hours spent farming mind numbingly.

I WANT TO ENJOY THIS GAME, not farm my kitten off. If I wanted that kind of grid I could play Aion

Kelvingts.2035:

andeysmandey.1647:

Actually, bots were banned and that’s why prices are going up.

Yes I that is a huge factor to the cause but I also believe the entire precursor price drop is another big factor to the recent inflation

Precursor drop rate did nothing to recent inflation, it was the ascended stuff.

easy fix on the rise in prices on T6 mats, just get the complainers and whiners to do more of what they did with precursor, soon Anet will change the requirement for even less materials. Better yet, create more easy to get welfare legendaries, now GW2 can turn into WoW

According to what I’ve heard, infusion isn’t really necessary until you start hitting level 20+ in Fractals. It only shows up at level 10+, but the attacks that cause infusion are clearly telegraphed and you can avoid it just by dodging at the right time. Apparently this remains the case all the way to 20+. Above that, it starts becoming problematic, and someone said that infusion is almost necessary for 30+, but by that time you should almost certainly have an infused Ring from one of the end chests.

In any case, initial feedback from Chris’s AMA on Reddit indicates that ANet is implementing different ways to get Ascended items apart from farming Fractals, so if the current system is really cheesing you off, take a break. Play some sPvP/WvW/level alts etc. Wait and see what the new methods will be; for all we know crafters will be able to upgrade Exotic items to Ascended via new recipes in the future!

The mat prices will come down I figure its around the peak of what the prices will be so I sold my ecto and powerful blood, made a easy 12g for when the market normalizes.

I foresaw this as soon as i knew the would ‘do something’ about precursors.. Thank god I bought all that i needed when it was still just a few silvers per piece.. I even mentioned it in threads about precursors (I can probably find it again and show you).. But no one listens.. nope.. they just keep saying ‘shhh we dont care, we want precursors..NIAAAOOWW’ now people can maybe afford a little more the precursors, if they werent lucky from that free give away, but they sure as hell cant afford the 8 stacks of T6 mats, and 2 stacks of ectos.. Like I said, Anet needs a money sink, and since people are ‘holding’ off for the ‘scavenger hunt’, less rares thrown into forge, sooooo, less rares will drop, less ectos.

AND to top it all off, ascended backpieces each require a stack of T6 mat! Hehehe.

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