T7 Material, Values "retained" much?

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Posted by: blueboy.4960

blueboy.4960

I was thinking about GW2’s posting regarding to looking ahead in 2013. One line made me laugh.

“This tier is time-constrained, so each item can only be made once per day in order to help give high-level crafters their own economy of items to build and sell that retain their value and rarity.”

I guess whoever wrote this line and/or designed the new crafting material was thinking with their kitten . Evidently, it did not retain its value and rarity, it is dropping in both on TP. Wonder why? doesn’t take a rocket scientist to foresee it.

A time-constrained material that is tradable, but the resulting item from those materials are not would obviously NOT sustain its value.

As a high level crafter, if the items that I craft can only be equipped by my own characters, the moment I crafted each character their own, I’ll stop crafting immediately. I won’t even look at those T7 crafting option, let alone the ones in TP.

Materials (regardless of tier) would only be of value if there is demand for it. Yes, there is still demand for T7 tier, but it is diminishing. And to make matters worse, for each decreased demand, there is an increase in supply (buyer turn supplier)

Want to allow high level crafters our own economy and allow our items to retain its value? make crafted ascended weapon tradable. I guarantee you that you’ll see the current t7 material increase in value and continue to sustain that value.

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Posted by: Melfice.5091

Melfice.5091

But how would they sell that in the gemstore?

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

Better to just sell the T6 materials rather than craft them into T7 ingots and planks.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

It didn’t retain value. You make aprox 1g over material cost by crafting all 3 and that margin is going down every day.

As far as selling ascended weapons… no. It’s a good sink which this game needed. If they just removed the time gating altogether though I would be happier.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Want to allow high level crafters our own economy and allow our items to retain its value? make crafted ascended weapon tradable. I guarantee you that you’ll see the current t7 material increase in value and continue to sustain that value.

Except it is still gated by the vision crystal …

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Posted by: VidGhost.3215

VidGhost.3215

its sad we can sell ascended items

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore.4035

The reason for this is that the hardest parts of the Ascended weapons to get are the Empyreal Fragments and Dragonite Ore and incidentally we cannot trade those or any product of theirs.

Thus the time gating is just a gimmick. Your average player will not be time-gated when crafting an ascended, but instead gated by the grind required for those abovementioned mats.

One – Piken Square

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Posted by: Alex.3156

Alex.3156

If they make ascended weapons to be tradable they will loose player since the price of the legendary will go down. Players will spend real money to buy gems trade them for gold and buy the ascended items. No one wants that game to be pay to win. Now if a player spend real money the can only buy full set exotic item and if there is one player who spend laureals for a ascended ring he have more stats then the player who spend real money. And thats good. The ascended shoud be only acount bound!!

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Posted by: Morsus.5106

Morsus.5106

@Alex Why would legendary prices go down? Exotics were easy to obtain, and Legendaries were still priced very high.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

The reason for this is that the hardest parts of the Ascended weapons to get are the Empyreal Fragments and Dragonite Ore and incidentally we cannot trade those or any product of theirs.

for most players the hardest part is the 200-300 G to exp the professions..
Then all T6-T5-T4 mats

I m literally destroyings stacks of empyreal fragments and dragonite.

Consider most player to get same weapons they used before needs something like 10-12 weapons and 2-3 armors…..

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

agreed, empyreal and dragonite are the time-gate. time-gating the deldrimor and spiritwood is useless. making them TP-able just makes time-gating them even more useless. I laughed so hard when I read that the only things that were time-gated were also able to be purchased on the TP.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Want to allow high level crafters our own economy and allow our items to retain its value? make crafted ascended weapon tradable. I guarantee you that you’ll see the current t7 material increase in value and continue to sustain that value.

Except it is still gated by the vision crystal …

Well, that is the mistake in calculation. The real gate is not the sellable dowels, planks, ingots and elonian squares, but the vision crystals – which are not tradable. There is no point in buying the refinements of timegated mats, if you can produce them faster than you gather components for the crystal. Now, if the crystal was tradable as well… that would be different.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Want to allow high level crafters our own economy and allow our items to retain its value? make crafted ascended weapon tradable. I guarantee you that you’ll see the current t7 material increase in value and continue to sustain that value.

Except it is still gated by the vision crystal …

Well, that is the mistake in calculation. The real gate is not the sellable dowels, planks, ingots and elonian squares, but the vision crystals – which are not tradable. There is no point in buying the refinements of timegated mats, if you can produce them faster than you gather components for the crystal. Now, if the crystal was tradable as well… that would be different.

I’ve mentioned that many times already. Trying hard to not sound like a broken record.

I am still curious to know who the devs thinks(and who is doing it in reality) would be buying the ecto refinements.