Guild Wars 2

I was thinking seriously about this issue, and it’s one of the few things I am most bothered about, because spending 420g for a stack of an item whose obtainment methods are extremely limited due to lack of foresight by developers feels ludicrous even if I had the gold, which I don’t anyway…

I’ve parked 3 alts lvl20+ at jumping puzzles in Lions Arch and been looting the chests everyday with each for almost a month now and I’ve gotten a whopping 2 silver doubloons so far.

So my idea is this: In order to decrease the price of Silver Doubloons on the TP, we have to inject more supply into the economy and at the same time make it less profitable for flippers to flip.

To make it less profitable, this means that we need to keep demand low, so buy orders should always be used rather than immediate buys, and the buy order prices should be kept to a minimum, only outbidding by a copper coin if anything. Of course that requires a degree of cooperation from competitors on the market that is difficult to rely on, so let’s move on to the next part, injecting more into the economy.

To inject more Silver Doubloons into the market, parking alts at JPs is one way to help, albeit it’s very boring and slow and restricts the use of alts. The next way is a little bit extreme and somewhat silly but it’s the big thing I want to bring up:
MESMER PORTALS.

Now one of my alts at the end of a jumping puzzle happens to be a mesmer with the portal skill, so every now and then I use that mesmer to port people to the chest at Troll’s End in Lion’s Arch. Unfortunately for our purposes, Silver Doubloons only drop for people within a certain range of levels, roughly 20-30.

But basically, if we could somehow get more mesmers to portal to JPs, get more level 20s to do JPs, find ways to get more level 20s actively playing GW2 rather than old fart level 80s sitting around looking pretty, and more people looting JP chests with their alts, etc. we might be able to make a dent in the price!

Or we keep our voices heard and hope ANet realizes how ridiculous this all sounds lmao. Anyway, Happy New Year! May it bring many Silver Doubloons to all!

EDIT: One more thing, the new Magic Find system seems to have increased MF during the majority of playtime for people overall, but unfortunately it doesn’t affect loot from JP chests. However, it should allow Heavy Miner’s Bags and other monster-dropped loot containers that might possibly contain Silver Doubloons to be dropped more often, so everybody make sure to farm Dredge genocidally. The Shiverpeak variety should go extinct around mid-July hopefully. From there we will move on to Skritt and raid their loot bags as well. What a bright and happy 2014!

Arnekun.6170:

I was thinking seriously about this issue, and it’s one of the few things I am most bothered about, because spending 420g for a stack of an item whose obtainment methods are extremely limited due to lack of foresight by developers feels ludicrous even if I had the gold, which I don’t anyway…

Are you sure it’s not working as intended?

By the way, you can forge doubloons using gemstones:

3 pebbles + 1 lump.

Not sure what gemstone and doubloon prices are right now, but you used to be able to make very good money this way (a few months ago) — so you may want to look into this as a way to get doubloons.

If I recall correctly, I’d get on average 5-6 doubloons every 100 forge attempts while I only needed 2-3 to break even (always put in buy orders, do not buy instantly).

I made a bunch of gold doing this, but it’s HUGELY tedious — your button clicking finger will not be happy.

Lord Kuru.3685:

By the way, you can forge doubloons using gemstones:

3 pebbles + 1 lump.

Not sure what gemstone and doubloon prices are right now, but you used to be able to make very good money this way (a few months ago) — so you may want to look into this as a way to get doubloons.

If I recall correctly, I’d get on average 5-6 doubloons every 100 forge attempts while I only needed 2-3 to break even (always put in buy orders, do not buy instantly).

I made a bunch of gold doing this, but it’s HUGELY tedious — your button clicking finger will not be happy.

It’s 1 gemstone per 100 forges. I know, I’ve been there. It takes about 25000 gemstones hovering at about 2s each to get a stack of silver doubloons.
Alternatively, you need to open about 75.000 of the right bags (which are expensive) to get a stack of doubloons. Any way to acquire them is neigh abusive gameplay.

For further reading, see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Silver-Doubloons-a-year-of-ignore/

Buttercup.5871:

Lord Kuru.3685:

By the way, you can forge doubloons using gemstones:

3 pebbles + 1 lump.

Not sure what gemstone and doubloon prices are right now, but you used to be able to make very good money this way (a few months ago) — so you may want to look into this as a way to get doubloons.

If I recall correctly, I’d get on average 5-6 doubloons every 100 forge attempts while I only needed 2-3 to break even (always put in buy orders, do not buy instantly).

I made a bunch of gold doing this, but it’s HUGELY tedious — your button clicking finger will not be happy.

It’s 1 gemstone per 100 forges. I know, I’ve been there. It takes about 25000 gemstones hovering at about 2s each to get a stack of silver doubloons.
Alternatively, you need to open about 75.000 of the right bags (which are expensive) to get a stack of doubloons. Any way to acquire them is neigh abusive gameplay.

For further reading, see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Silver-Doubloons-a-year-of-ignore/

Interesting…. maybe they nerfed the rate because I put thousands in and was seeing around 5 per 100… I remembering being “angry” when getting fewer than 3.

My average out of Mystic Toilet was 7 silver doubloons per 4x 250 stacks of appropriate gemstones. Then I got a couple more via putting the leftover byproducts back into the forge but of course at much worse rates.

I despise this mechanic, I spent 2 days at MF, 1 whole weekend, like 8-10 hours per day doing nothing but clicking.

If I realized earlier just how screwed up these things are to get I would have never gone for a jugg. Hell, I’d go for eternity because at least you have many different ways to farm the mats and at least you can play some game while doing so.

I seriously regret crafting the juggernaut and my advice to anyone thinking about a legendary is to just keep away from this one and go for something else, or just better farm the gold and buy it completed from the TP, let the ubber farmers and the speculators craft it. You’ll be far better off.

I know your feels Tongku, though not the exact same situation. I started crafting Mjolnir instead of Juggy in mid November 2013. I’m now sitting at 293/350 charged lodestones. Bought every single one of them except for maybe 20 that I upgraded from dropped charged cores. I’m feeling a little burnt out. X)

Silver is more profitable than gold dubloon? How so?

Ookamikun.6472:

Silver is more profitable than gold dubloon? How so?

Silver doubloons are used in crafting the Juggernaut whereas gold doubloons are only used in some major sigil or rune recipes.