Guild Wars 2

Vol.5241:

As far as I’m concerned, those who complain about precursors are people who want stuff handed to them and refuse to commit the time to get one. It also includes people who decide to gamble and then complain when things don’t go their way.

Faulty logic. I have completed Twilight, Sunrise, Predator, and Bolt. And I still think the current method of obtaining precursors is utter garbage.

I have no desire or plans to create any more even though I can currently afford to buy all the materials and precursors for at least three more.

Even if everyone got one in the mail from anet for free, I would bet that half of them or more would simply sell, precursors aren’t legendaries. I can’t figure out why some people can’t see how vast the misunderstanding is between the 2. If you happen to get lucky enough to get a precursor as a drop, you have even less a chance to get the one you want. The only realistic goal to getting a precursor is buying it and the prices simply climb.

Auri El.1032:

Svarty.8019:

Auri El.1032:

I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.

I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.

So, because you think the prices are too high and gambling the forge is too low a chance, it should be changed? I understand the why but have you thought about the fact that NOT EVERYONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET ONE. It seems to me that many people are under the impression I am wrong in this.

Now we’re getting to the point I made in THIS thread that the wrong people have already got the legendaries and in THIS thread that we need new Mythical Weapons to replace them as the most desirable weapons in the game.

Svarty.8019:

Auri El.1032:

Svarty.8019:

Auri El.1032:

I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.

I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.

So, because you think the prices are too high and gambling the forge is too low a chance, it should be changed? I understand the why but have you thought about the fact that NOT EVERYONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET ONE. It seems to me that many people are under the impression I am wrong in this.

Now we’re getting to the point I made in THIS thread that the wrong people have already got the legendaries and in THIS thread that we need new Mythical Weapons to replace them as the most desirable weapons in the game.

What gives you the authority to say the wrong people have them? I have one because I got lucky in the forge and did the grind like many others. I don’t like the gouging of prices or exploiters anymore than you, which is why I decided to not give my gold to them and use the forge. It’s unfortunate that the exploiters have tarnished the legendary items status but I would bet that there are many players who got theirs legitimately. Also, I agree that some new skins would be nice. I don’t see that solving the problem unless anet makes them unable to be sold on TP.

Lmao, 140g and 400g. Yeah, reasonable prices. Just stop it. You simply want your items to remain exclusive. Admit it and save some face.

I was fortunate enough to purchase Zap right before the price increased about a week ago. I ran dungeon after dungeon for gold. I ran fractal after fractal to get fractal relics and ectoplasm. I used those and every single mystic coin I had to create The Anomaly, which I sold on the TP. Only after that did I have enough coin to purchase Zap.

Now it will take me a few more months to farm the mats and do the daily quests for the mystic coins to even be able to even create the legendary. But I think it’s worth it because I really enjoy the game and it’s a challenging goal for a gamer, such as myself, who is more casual now than hardcore.

It took a lot of effort, time, and strategy to obtain the precursor I wanted. I would feel betrayed if ArenaNet makes it a simple thing to obtain a precursor.

So you got it before the price increased, but all others who started the game later shall suffer kitten

Quee.2389:

I was fortunate enough to purchase Zap right before the price increased about a week ago. I ran dungeon after dungeon for gold. I ran fractal after fractal to get fractal relics and ectoplasm. I used those and every single mystic coin I had to create The Anomaly, which I sold on the TP. Only after that did I have enough coin to purchase Zap.

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It took a lot of effort, time, and strategy to obtain the precursor I wanted. I would feel betrayed if ArenaNet makes it a simple thing to obtain a precursor.

I had to reply to this because I was staring at The Anomoly last night thinking of building one to sell as a way to get The Lover…… Spot on, the Mystic Forge is a great way to track yourself towards a precursor.

I’ve been planning on Vision of the Mists as one of my ‘build to sell’ steps along the way, but there are so many good ones out there. Just curious if you don’t mind my asking, did you list The Anomoly and wait for it to sell, or did you sell to the highest buy offer? I’ve been aprehensive about how much movement there is at this end of the market on sell orders.

SteepledHat.1345:

Lmao, 140g and 400g. Yeah, reasonable prices. Just stop it. You simply want your items to remain exclusive. Admit it and save some face.

They are reasonable if people still are willing to pay it right?

Auri El.1032:

Svarty.8019:

Auri El.1032:

I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.

I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.

So, because you think the prices are too high and gambling the forge is too low a chance, it should be changed? I understand the why but have you thought about the fact that NOT EVERYONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET ONE. It seems to me that many people are under the impression I am wrong in this.

Well speaking as someone who has one.
Twilight…

I can tell you my quest / work to getting said legendary was nothing legendary.
I think precursors should be more something you work for more so then something u give up gambling RNG for and then eventually have to fight inflation on the price of said precursor at the TP.

I can tell you right now.. if i had to get my materials NOW and not 3 weeks ago, i dont think i could of afforded my twilight.

Infact a lot of my friends who had twilight back in december even tell me, if they had to pay what i paid for my twilight, they wouldn’t be able to afford it now.
Lemme One up that comment and say, my other friend paid LESS for twilight + Sunrise, then what i did for JUST TWILIGHT.

So is this truly fair?
The ever so grind to get a said legendary continually rises so new adopters can only dream and droll over a guy who happens to pass by them with several precursors only because that guy was lucky to adopt them early.

Now how fair is that?
Continuously raising the requirements of getting a legendary.
(again Anet’s response.. its player based / controlled…)
Well Why are legendaries even Player Based / Controlled to begin with?

So please go take your legendary elitism elsewhere.
Most of the later legendary adopters will even agree with me on how much of a pain it was to get a legendary NOW then it was back in november / december.

The system right now IS TOTALLY NOT BALANCED for the new people, and only makes them want to quit.
Instead a legendary should make them want to stay and grind.

But when one spends gods knows how much gold at the MF, and then finally gives up.. heads to the Trade posts… OMGWTFBBQ 600-700g for just dusk.

Again… tell me how fair that is?

Naekuh.7925:

Auri El.1032:

Svarty.8019:

Auri El.1032:

I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.

I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.

So, because you think the prices are too high and gambling the forge is too low a chance, it should be changed? I understand the why but have you thought about the fact that NOT EVERYONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET ONE. It seems to me that many people are under the impression I am wrong in this.

Well speaking as someone who has one.
Twilight…

I can tell you my quest / work to getting said legendary was nothing legendary.
I think precursors should be more something you work for more so then something u give up gambling RNG for and then eventually have to fight inflation on the price of said precursor at the TP.

I can tell you right now.. if i had to get my materials NOW and not 3 weeks ago, i dont think i could of afforded my twilight.

Infact a lot of my friends who had twilight back in december even tell me, if they had to pay what i paid for my twilight, they wouldn’t be able to afford it now.
Lemme One up that comment and say, my other friend paid LESS for twilight + Sunrise, then what i did for JUST TWILIGHT.

So is this truly fair?
The ever so grind to get a said legendary continually rises so new adopters can only dream and droll over a guy who happens to pass by them with several precursors only because that guy was lucky to adopt them early.

Now how fair is that?
Continuously raising the requirements of getting a legendary.
(again Anet’s response.. its player based / controlled…)
Well Why are legendaries even Player Based / Controlled to begin with?

So please go take your legendary elitism elsewhere.
Most of the later legendary adopters will even agree with me on how much of a pain it was to get a legendary NOW then it was back in november / december.

The system right now IS TOTALLY NOT BALANCED for the new people, and only makes them want to quit.
Instead a legendary should make them want to stay and grind.

But when one spends gods knows how much gold at the MF, and then finally gives up.. heads to the Trade posts… OMGWTFBBQ 600-700g for just dusk.

Again… tell me how fair that is?

I didn’t say it was fair. Coming from someone who has Dawn not Sunrise, I can say that it is a royal pain to try and make now because costs are much higher. Don’t assume I am an elitist just because I am making the " unpopular" argument.

Thats just the thing.

The cost is going higher and higher.
That makes only the established players who been grinding near the start able to afford one now.

That means all the new people who join will probably never see one, because the established player base even has difficulties getting one.
And the requirements keep going up.
So when will the requirements flatline? the prices of everything flat line?
You know when? When we lost more then half the existing player base because they give up on getting said precursor to grind for legendary.

As i was stating, a precursor should be something u grind for.
Make them cost 5 gifts from ALL the dungeon vendors combined.
Or an outstanding 10,000 Fotm relics even.

Not make them 100% RNG, and then have people suffer horribly at the TP after realizing Zomoros will never grant you blessing of crafting one.

Also Good luck to ya on your sunrise.
Id hate to be in your shoes.
Charged Lodestones is another PEEVE of mine in this game.
But i’ll take that to another thread.

evo.8640:

Vol.5241:

As far as I’m concerned, those who complain about precursors are people who want stuff handed to them and refuse to commit the time to get one. It also includes people who decide to gamble and then complain when things don’t go their way.

Faulty logic. I have completed Twilight, Sunrise, Predator, and Bolt. And I still think the current method of obtaining precursors is utter garbage.

I have no desire or plans to create any more even though I can currently afford to buy all the materials and precursors for at least three more.

“I support the cause! yay for precursor prices nerf!!! by the way, I’m super rich.”

I totally support the current prices, I can’t afford another 5 legendaries, since I work towards them one by one whenever I get the legendary bug again, but can easily make any legendary in less than a month if I put myself into it. With minimum effort compared to any TP tycoon out there. (OH YEAHHHHH BRAGGING FEELS GOOD)

so stop complaining everyone.
These are the current prices, don’t like it? don’t buy it!
Someone mentioned something about people with 3+ legendaries are the outside the 90% who can’t afford that much.
That’s exactly the point, we who got a goal and know how to manage our time and set fun aside and gold earning aside – deserve by all means what we work for.

You want to jerk around cursed shore and farm dungeons with your friends for legendary? well too bad, keep farming.

It is a legendary task, without an ounce of fun in it (Gift of mastery aside).
This is a serious post, so get that idea to your heads.

Firegoth.6427:

evo.8640:

Vol.5241:

As far as I’m concerned, those who complain about precursors are people who want stuff handed to them and refuse to commit the time to get one. It also includes people who decide to gamble and then complain when things don’t go their way.

Faulty logic. I have completed Twilight, Sunrise, Predator, and Bolt. And I still think the current method of obtaining precursors is utter garbage.

I have no desire or plans to create any more even though I can currently afford to buy all the materials and precursors for at least three more.

“I support the cause! yay for precursor prices nerf!!! by the way, I’m super rich.”

I totally support the current prices, I can’t afford another 5 legendaries, since I work towards them one by one whenever I get the legendary bug again, but can easily make any legendary in less than a month if I put myself into it. With minimum effort compared to any TP tycoon out there. (OH YEAHHHHH BRAGGING FEELS GOOD)

so stop complaining everyone.
These are the current prices, don’t like it? don’t buy it!
Someone mentioned something about people with 3+ legendaries are the outside the 90% who can’t afford that much.
That’s exactly the point, we who got a goal and know how to manage our time and set fun aside and gold earning aside – deserve by all means what we work for.

You want to jerk around cursed shore and farm dungeons with your friends for legendary? well too bad, keep farming.

It is a legendary task, without an ounce of fun in it (Gift of mastery aside).
This is a serious post, so get that idea to your heads.

Keep farming for an item which keeps on inflating…

Brilliant!

Again… this maybe fair for you who has been in the game for a while.
How is it fair for jane or bob who started 2 weeks ago?

What do u think of Jane and Bob’s chances of gathering 600-700g for dusk?
Sure they can goto the MF.. Jane might get lucky, while BOB still needs to goto the TP.
But how about a system which makes it fair for both Jane Bob, and Jill (the established player) so they can get a precursor by earning it, and not getting “lucky” or being a said established player.

“These are the current prices, don’t like it? don’t buy it!”

NO, get it through your head we were deceived on how much it will take to finish one when we decided to go for it. Personally I feel someone came and burned my 70% completed tower of cards and now you come and tell me that “it’s ok you still have the ashes and the other 30% that didn’t catch fire so work harder, recycle them and make new paper, print a new set of cards and start again but this time you need to do it double the size but it’s ok because it can be done, it’s ok because I can do it” – thing is that’s not the deciding factor (or it shouldn’t be).

Vol is in Cursed Shore right now. Vol is always in Cursed Shore. I don’t think he did any content for fun in weeks. Yes he has 1300h played and 3 legendaries (and at least one he got the precursor for 20% of current price) and he did work for all 3 since he is grinding C.S. like there is no tomorrow. Doesn’t mean the system is fine or this is how precursors should be obtained or that there should be a huge discrepancy between ppl who got it by pure luck or karka drop (that wasn’t the same type of luck) or in the aftermath on the prices or that we should wait a few more months (like he said he is despite having the money for more).

Nope, sorry, both of your arguments don’t hold.

When I started Aion (Release) and wanted to get my Fenris armor later on, boiling blood was cheap and available to anyone who rushed the game. But I wanted to enjoy the content first, so I ended up hitting max lvl slower than the hardcores.
Result? giving up on the idea of even farming the item due to the availability only through a world pvp area.

Conclusion? rip your fruits early or suffer the consequences. In our case – precursors hitting their actual worth in the game, and not a bloody pathetic 300g.

Edit:
Mind you, I currently work my way towards another legendary in its current price.
No complains, this is what I must deal with if I want one.

Also one more thing, if we get a 100% sure-way of obtaining a precursor.
Well, good job screwing it over for anyone else who doesn’t want one, with spiking all T6 mats, lodestones and ectos.

Seriously, I’d be kitten myself.

problem we have is:
with thanks to DR, grinding in locations like CS isnt profitable anymore.

You cant grind the old style and expect to hit goals with all the updates.
Anet limited us in the amount and way we can get gold.
Precursors price keeps rising…
Anet says no inflation..

Yet inflation is when the value of money is devalued.
I see MASSIVE inflation on precursors.
I see Insane inflation on Charged Lodestones.

Anet says no inflation … O.o

Im sorry anet… yes there is no inflation on things like butter, but what do you call a precursor which typically started at 50g… costed 150g at peak member height… and now is way over 600-700g when 10-15% of the player base has quit…. (meaning we dont have number as we used to do 2-3 months in the launch of the game).

Less player base…
Higher cost of getting item.
Lower payout due to things like DR.

Do u see now why everyone is so kitten off?

The precursors really are fun blockers. I really had fun playing WvW. Then about 4 months ago I decided to go for a legendary. Precursors weren’t expensive, so I thought, I start with the expensive parts – the 3 gifts. A New Years Eve I finished my gifts. My precursor was at 140g, so I thought, I can do that in 3 weeks. 3 weeks later, I had over 140g but the price was at 300g. Well I just went on farming for a while, but right now? I can’t play the game anymore. This precursor is like a bad taste as soon as I start the game.
I mean, the finish line was already in sight and then just took up speed.
Of course some say, Legendarys have to stay rare.
But do you really think anyone will start the game any more, if he knows, that some contents are just available for the ones who do hardcore gaming AND started half a year ago^^
I just hope Anet will react soon.

Naekuh.7925 –
Copied from another post I made

Allow me to break the completely logical reasoning behind the prices spikes -
Dusk of rage – 66g. Release month, precursors flood the market due to god skulls exploit.
Dusk – 200g. Expolit fixed, people start working towards the weapon.
Dusk – 400g, after people start realizing how desired these weapons are, they buy them in large quantities to resist them for more later, speculating on their true market value.
Dusk – 600g, legendaries are allowed to be sold on TP.
What I’m getting at, is that the prices will remain static unless we’ll get further improvement to them, such as the dreamer’s new effect that caused the price of the lover to spike.

Surferboy.1649 –
I worked from 0 to nearly the full amount for my 4th legendary, so no.
If you can’t get a legendary on your own with current prices – you can only blame yourself.

of course it is my fault (no sarcasm)
but the question is, whether Anet wants a Legendary just be available for people who farm day and night.
And sorry guys, that’s all we are discussing about. There is no right or wrong answer of any of you except for the admins. Otherwise we wouldn’t need to discuss^^

Surferboy.1649:

of course it is my fault (no sarcasm)
but the question is, whether Anet wants a Legendary just be available for people who farm day and night.
And sorry guys, that’s all we are discussing about. There is no right or wrong answer of any of you except for the admins. Otherwise we wouldn’t need to discuss^^

I don’t farm day and night.
There are always ways to get a legendary without having to sacrifice so much.

But to answer your question – it is fun vs boredom. and boredom wins in creating a legendary. It’s simply how it is.

I don’t mean this negatively and am not trying to be an elitist. You would be better served using the forge at this point. Don’t give your money to the exploiters. I made dawn last week after over 200 swords in. May as well try your luck, the prices aren’t going down anytime soon I promise that.

CassieGold.7460:

Noerknhar.3826:

That was a month ago. In terms of a game that is on the market for about 5 months, that’s like a decade.

Right, a month ago, we knew it wasn’t on track for the Jan / Feb / March patches.

So…. why do we expect continual updates saying ’It’s still not happening in Jan / Feb / March…’

And in the lifespan of an MMO, a month is a short time compared to the total life cycle of the game’s live support and content updates.

The lifespan of an MMO is ultimately decided by the players not the developers.

If the developers ignore the issues that players are concerned about in favour of their own ideas then they might find out that 5 months isn’t actually all that early in the lifecycle after all.

GW2 is shedding players – in my guild 80% of its members have already moved on to other games and with Eldar Scrolls coming out soon that will only increase.

Talking to those who have moved on their reasons are a combination of boredom and frustration; boredom with the repetitive nature of the end game content, and frustration with ArenaNets blatant reversal of almost every one of the design principals they promised us before release.

In short, ArenaNet might find out soon enough that 5 months was not “early days” but in fact about half way through the lifespan of GW2.

Imryn.2879:

CassieGold.7460:

Noerknhar.3826:

That was a month ago. In terms of a game that is on the market for about 5 months, that’s like a decade.

Right, a month ago, we knew it wasn’t on track for the Jan / Feb / March patches.

So…. why do we expect continual updates saying ’It’s still not happening in Jan / Feb / March…’

And in the lifespan of an MMO, a month is a short time compared to the total life cycle of the game’s live support and content updates.

The lifespan of an MMO is ultimately decided by the players not the developers.

If the developers ignore the issues that players are concerned about in favour of their own ideas then they might find out that 5 months isn’t actually all that early in the lifecycle after all.

GW2 is shedding players – in my guild 80% of its members have already moved on to other games and with Eldar Scrolls coming out soon that will only increase.

Talking to those who have moved on their reasons are a combination of boredom and frustration; boredom with the repetitive nature of the end game content, and frustration with ArenaNets blatant reversal of almost every one of the design principals they promised us before release.

In short, ArenaNet might find out soon enough that 5 months was not “early days” but in fact about half way through the lifespan of GW2.

Totally agree!
But then again, see you in next expansion!

I was wondering if we maybe could get a response from ANet in here. Something like “yeah you’re right, we’ll do that asap” or even “GW2 is all about grind and RNG, live with it”.

I’d just like to point out that i play really a lot.

And most of that time happens in fratcals 20-30, and dungeons, that could be considered “challenging content”.

I am really far from being able to have my first legendary due to:

1) no precursor despite all things i put in mystic forge
2) only 250 gold ( i spent something like 70 in exotic skins possibly)
3) only 2 characters

then i hear of people with 3-4 legendaries?

Its clear legendaries aren t working as they should.
Its impossible for a player PLAYING the game to get a legendary atm.

Imryn.2879:

CassieGold.7460:

Noerknhar.3826:

That was a month ago. In terms of a game that is on the market for about 5 months, that’s like a decade.

Right, a month ago, we knew it wasn’t on track for the Jan / Feb / March patches.

So…. why do we expect continual updates saying ’It’s still not happening in Jan / Feb / March…’

And in the lifespan of an MMO, a month is a short time compared to the total life cycle of the game’s live support and content updates.

The lifespan of an MMO is ultimately decided by the players not the developers.

If the developers ignore the issues that players are concerned about in favour of their own ideas then they might find out that 5 months isn’t actually all that early in the lifecycle after all.

GW2 is shedding players – in my guild 80% of its members have already moved on to other games and with Eldar Scrolls coming out soon that will only increase.

I just want to mention that anecdotal evidance to the contrary, the info from the Devs is that concurrancy and pupulation is increasing:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7133/Guild-Wars-2-Februarys-Flame-and-Frost-Update-Detailed.html

Also, since the recent patches, my own anecdotal evidance is that /map chat has become more active in every map I’ve been on than I’ve seen it since launch.

I seriously wonder if there are people with more than one legendary. You’d simply either have to buy from gold sellers or literally farm the “end-game”. It just seems so unfeasible to do it any other way.

munkiman.3068:

I seriously wonder if there are people with more than one legendary. You’d simply either have to buy from gold sellers or literally farm the “end-game”. It just seems so unfeasible to do it any other way.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/How-many-legendaries-do-you-plan-on-making

You just missed the topic

Precursor prices will go up and down based on ecto prices.

For people putting rares in the MF, though no ectos are used they use t5 mats to craft those rares. Those mats go up and down based on ecto value.

For people putting exotics in, those take ectos directly to make.

Thus if the price on precursors aren’t high enough, less people will bother using the MF (creating precursors) and will just save up and buy precursors instead (presumably to make a legendary, removing precursors). Less precursors = price up accordingly.

If you see 2000g precursors eventually, it’ll have to be with ectos costing 1.5g or something with it. Else people with a lot of money will repeatedly make precursors in the forge and sell them for profit (more precursors = price down).

Precursors are rare from the forge but not THAT rare. I’m willing to guess that for every horror story you hear about someone that put in 2000 rares and got nothing, there’s 10 people that just did it quietly and got a precursor (maybe more than one in fact)

I hereby bump this thread. Note that there actually are like 5 more threads in this forum that topic precursors in addition to the ones listed in my first posting.

http://dragonseason.com/Front/tabid/124/EntryId/212/Lunch-with-Colin-Johanson-Part-III.aspx
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Dragonseason : Precursors. A little while ago there was mention that there were going to be other ways to get hold of precursors, like through the scavenger hunt.

Colin: Someday yes.
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http://dragonseason.com/Front/tabid/124/EntryId/212/Lunch-with-Colin-Johanson-Part-III.aspx
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Dragonseason Someday. So no plans for the immediate future?

Colin: We’ve thrown in a few more RNG ways to get them, like random chances for places they could go in the game recently, but that’s not the real solution. That’s just a “hey lets just increase the number of places people can earn them at this point”. The fixes for qualifying for loot that will go in the February release will also increase the chances you can get precursors ‘cause it means you have a higher chance of rolling for loot in every creature that you kill. Which means you have a higher chance of getting a precursor. So that will help as well. But long term we’d like to do something that’s a little bit more epic where there’s a clear path of “here’s everything you need to do and when you complete it you automatically get a precursor.” We’re not working on that right now, we’re really trying to design what that would be, but yeah certainly at some point we will create a system that allows you to do that.
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So guys we are waiting for nothing but false hope again…..

Got my sixth precursor this weekend and saw some of them dropping to other people. I think this is working just fine.
Also maybe most people should stop waiting all day for the dragon events.
I got two from MF, two from fooling aroundin Orr and two by melting faces in Wv3.

jm2c

Lmao, like we all just sit and wait on dragon events. Six precursor drops is far far far far far from average.

The average is probably very close to 0.

Zumy.6318:

Got my sixth precursor this weekend and saw some of them dropping to other people. I think this is working just fine.
Also maybe most people should stop waiting all day for the dragon events.
I got two from MF, two from fooling aroundin Orr and two by melting faces in Wv3.

jm2c

I am still laughing. xD

Glad I made you laugh. Ppl should not take games too seriously.

Surferboy.1649:

But do you really think anyone will start the game any more, if he knows, that some contents are just available for the ones who do hardcore gaming AND started half a year ago^^
I just hope Anet will react soon.

I started for my second legendary three weeks ago with zero of anything. Gold, T6 mats, ectos, skillpoints, etc, after burning everything to equip many toons with t3 Armour and very expensive colours.
I mostly do fractal daily and then only do Wv3. Period. I work 40-60 hours a week and have IRL-friends.

I will finish it this week. It is bolt, so one of the most expensive ones. Deal with it.

Manage your time ingame.
And yes, I think a legendary is not supposed to be owned by casual players who logs in for some DE, JP, and Dungeons.

And there will always be new trolls trying to make the normal players mad…

with your circumstances it’s clearly impossible for what you wrote. i.e. exploits or gold buying. (i leave out the tp lamers)

fact.

No exploit or RMT involved. After some thinking you figure out how to get your money each day. Say I get 20-40g a day with an average of 30g. That is roughly 900g in four weeks.
If I get a BLTC-Salvage-Kit for daily, that is 50g in goods for me. I got two the last few weeks.

Please dont insult me, as I did not offend anybody.

Edit: I dropped Zap in Wv3 yesterday, otherwie it would have been another 3 weeks. I still think 4-8 weeks for a legendary is way too little time.

Zumy.6318:

Surferboy.1649:

But do you really think anyone will start the game any more, if he knows, that some contents are just available for the ones who do hardcore gaming AND started half a year ago^^
I just hope Anet will react soon.

I started for my second legendary three weeks ago with zero of anything. Gold, T6 mats, ectos, skillpoints, etc, after burning everything to equip many toons with t3 Armour and very expensive colours.
I mostly do fractal daily and then only do Wv3. Period. I work 40-60 hours a week and have IRL-friends.

I will finish it this week. It is bolt, so one of the most expensive ones. Deal with it.

Manage your time ingame.
And yes, I think a legendary is not supposed to be owned by casual players who logs in for some DE, JP, and Dungeons.

I’ve been playing this game since beta and have 1740 hours played and i have never seen a precursor drop. I got lucky and was able to buy Leaf of Kudzu after the karka event for 100g so your 6 dropping for you is either BS or you need to quit this game and play the lottery.

And you say manage your time better. I personally call BS on finishing your legendary legit in 4 weeks including the precursor unless you got it as a drop. If you really work 40-60 hours a week, then either you have no wife or kids or social life and just work and then come home and grind all night, then sleep, go to work, rinse and repeat or have friends who funnel you money. Doing a fractal daily and some wvw will not yield you around 1000g in a month(the average for all T6, ectos for clovers and gift of fortune, icy runestones and lodestones). I mean if it’s true, then i’d be willing to bet you are not doing it legit or like i said, you got your RL buddies to help funnel you cash, you are buying gems or you are spending hours playing the TP cause i just don’t see how a person who works 60 hours a week can make about 34g a day and again this isn’t counting the 500g precursor which would bump it up to 50g a day….everyday…….

And i was writing this post before you got yours in so some of this stuff is irrelevant now but 4-8 weeks for a legendary is NOT the norm. That’s maybe the norm for people who have no life and do nothing but grind but again, that’s no the norm…

Zumy.6318:

No exploit or RMT involved. After some thinking you figure out how to get your money each day. Say I get 20-40g a day with an average of 30g. That is roughly 900g in four weeks.
If I get a BLTC-Salvage-Kit for daily, that is 50g in goods for me. I got two the last few weeks.

Please dont insult me, as I did not offend anybody.

Edit: I dropped Zap in Wv3 yesterday, otherwie it would have been another 3 weeks. I still think 4-8 weeks for a legendary is way too little time.

That’s the thing tho, i do fractals daily on 3 toons as well as run AC, COF, COE, TA and stuff and i don’t make 30-40g a day unless i get very lucky with drops and as we all know, this game and drops are crap. So like i said, i don’t see how you get that much gold running a daily fractal and doing wvw unless wvw drops 3 times the loot and cash of pve. And the only reason i could see you getting insulted is if some of it was true maybe. I mean if someone on the internet calls you a fat slob and you aren’t, why would you care? Just my 2cents.

As for BLTC salvage kit from dailes, kitten you are lucky or i am just very unlucky cause i can’t even remember the last time i got 1 in a daily. It’s always just mystic coin and a jug.

I consider your post very offensive and childish.

(EDIT: before you edited it)

Spending 20-30 minutes on the TP a day can bring you 20-30g minimum. At least, that is the outcome I get.
Daily fractals at level 20+ give nice loot too. And why dont you get into account the amount of lodestones and t6 mats + ectos + coins etc you get over the four weeks?

I suggest you stop acting like a mad child accusing me to do unlegit things, just to cover the fact that maybe I am just doing a few things a little better than you.
Given my job, managing the project “legendary weapon” in a minimal amount of time is just natural.

But to be honest, I am really lucky too. It is true, that I got 6 precursors over the last 6 months. And if you ask my friends IG, they will gladly confirm, that I get an insane amount of good loot every day, too. 5-6 rares in fractals, often 1-2 exotics in fractals, 2-3 core and sometimes a lodestone in fractals.

Just please be polite and stop this BS-calling of things you just did not figure out how to achieve (yet) :-).

You achieved it by being “lucky”…i doubt the majority of players pull in 1-2 exotics, 5-6 rares, 2-3 lodestones/cores everyday by doing 1 daily fractal. And again, why are so offended by my post when you don’t even know me as im just osme “joe” on the internet. I love how touchy some people get about accusations on the internet

As for mad child, i love how it boils down to now i’m a “child”. That’s like the internet default insult. “You’re a kid or you’re a child”. Actually i’m an adult with a family and my own house which i own but sometimes i do wish i was a child again But you gotta admit, i’m sure others were thinking the same thing, i mean 40g a day wit working like 60 hours a week. That would leave like 2 or 3 hours a day to game assuming you have a family and stuff. But again, whatever, grats on “working the system” and doing good. Kudos.

I am not touched. I am just trying not to troll you back as I already got suspended from the german forums and am close to get here too.

And: I did not say I have that loot every day. Just often. Also I found something that provides good money with few effort in the TP. Good money for me is 20-30g a day. Others might make 10 times this amount.

Zumy.6318:

I am not touched. I am just trying not to troll you back as I already got suspended from the german forums and am close to get here too.

And: I did not say I have that loot every day. Just often. Also I found something that provides good money with few effort in the TP. Good money for me is 20-30g a day. Others might make 10 times this amount.

Lol i hear ya. Good money to me is 15g a day. 20 if the family leaves me alone but yeah, that doesn’t happen. If i could have half your luck hahaha. A good day for fractals daily for me is 3 rares and if i get a charged lodestone or core i freakin hit the lottery. So that’s why i say, your results are not the norm. I bet the norm is closer to what i get or alittle better as the hundreds of posts on loot drops/DR etc are here.

Actually how about you keep your luck and just send me 250g so i can buy my dawn precursor and finish sunrise for my guard?

Well, usual is 40-45. 60 is just when starting a new project.

Cheers mate. I am glad we got this straight without me getting any infractions.

Well, I guess without my luck I would be up to 2-3 months for an legendary, what I still consider very fast. Never forget that most of the players that complain about loot are pve players that also played Aion, Diablo III and overall WoW, where you get all the new goodies after an expansion after three weeks. At least from what I know from Youtube footage. To be fair I never played any of them. Just Warhammer.

On topic: Precursor prices did not change in the past month. My point about as long as there isn’t a further improvement to the look of the legendaries or the high end mats loot table remains true.
The current offers are exactly what people are willing to pay, and btw – USE the buy order!!!! I closely watched “The lover” and it kept getting sold for 75G LESS than what it was offered! (I bought it myself too for 500g instead of 575g)
So the current prices are not the end-all, you can still get those precursors for even less than listed.

Off topic: After the 4th leg I actually remembered there are other games out there, sure – one may wish to catch ‘em all. But in all honesty, I’d rather finish some quality games now in the 150~200 hours it takes me to get a legendary instead.
I still log in every day to make around 15g quickly, and do my daily, but nothing beyond.

I’ve gotten so fed up in farming for the precursor I need that I’ve decided to play another game instead while waiting for this scavenger thing to be implemented. Grinding for the precursor is still the worst part of making a legendary, regardless if the other gifts cost more or not. It forces me to run the fastest way to earn silver and that’s via CoF path 1 runs and I feel so limited doing so. I’ve also gotten tired of trying to test my luck via MF. If saving up gold just to buy a precursor from the TP is the best way to earn it, then I feel like there’s got to be something wrong.

well Zumy isn’t farming but trading so if he knows how to do it, he really can easily do that.
I just don’t want to stand in front of the TP and abuse other players (who are silly enough to buy instantly instead of setting a buy order).
Guys, this whole TP-trading crap is just possible because some people buy instantly and waste much money.
I hope there will come a change with the new guild missions. Maybe a higher chance in a final chest. Otherwise I will need another 3 months to get my precursor, assuming that the prices won’t increase^^

Yes, get the torches and the pitchforks, I make a small amount of money.

The argument you are trying to pull out to make me look guilty of something is very founded. Go on, you are making lots of sense.
All the people who claim not to use the TP because they dont want to “abuse” other players, secretly just got no clue or fantasy to figure out a way to make gold out of a small trading.

BTW: flipping is not the only way to make gold. I refine things and provide them to the buyers for the price they are willing to pay. So please dont pull out the griefer argument on me. Thank you!