I just came back to crafting and I find out that you can only craft one ascended mat a day. There is a 24 hour limit.
I obviously do not like this system. I think it is a total waste of time. I know where Anet is coming from. They don’t want people to all get Ascended equipment right away. However this game really does not need to be even more alt-unfriendly than it already is.
What is the community’s general opinion on this time gate system?
I also have a special request. After you expressed your opinion, please indicate how many pieces of crafted ascended gear you got.
I have 0 pieces of crafted ascended gear.
Ugh hasn’t this horse(which doesn’t exist in Tyria!) been beaten into a fine paste already? Particularly in the progression CDI.
As for the reason. Apparently it is also so crafters can make a profit. Note, I am just the messenger here.
I am not a fan of the time gating. There were some suggestions in the CDI on how to make it less bad without completely removing it. That particular suggestion might not make much difference to you though.
I have 15 pieces, 17 if you count the new Tempered Spinal Blades. That is only for the craftable items.
I can’t imagine that anyone likes time gates in any game.
The problem with removing time gating is that mat prices would go so high people would be begging to put time gating back in. Silk prices hit 3 silver or so IIRC, had there been no time gating, I bet it would have been 10+ if not more because people would have drained the TP dry in one day, not to mention the t2-t5 mats required.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
I think it makes sense when you introduce something to do this but it should be phased out after a while.
You can bypass the time gate with gold.
It’s a great thing, because it allows those with more money than patience to bypass the wait, and those with more time than money to earn some $$$ with crafting.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are workgated, so there is a good limit on how much you can obtain in 24 hours.
Edit: Changed wording from timegated to workgated.
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I’ve found that the time gating really did not affect me as much as I first though because my main limiting factor is getting emperirial fragments. I’ve made 3 ascended armor pieces.
time-gating a new, and obviously popular, item is a good thing – to mitigate market fluctuations. but to keep it time-gated 8 months (or even 2 months) after it’s released serves no purpose.
time gating celestial armor made no sense, as it failed the popularity part.
the only actual gating of time for ascended equipment is the vision crystal. time-gating mithrillium, then letting deldrimor ingots be sold on the TP completely cancel each other out.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
Leveling is time-gated, so is acquiring ranks in PvP, and so are dungeons, because you have to invest time to do any of them.
Work and education are also time-gated and so are eating and drinking.
Posting in the forums is also time-gated because I have to invest some time to think on what to say and some more typing it in. Also, I have to wait 30s before posting again.
Pls remove time-gating ANET.
I just buy those deldrimor metal or wood from the TP.
Obviously the price is expensive now due to the new event. But normally the price between crafting it and buying it directly isn’t that large.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
I didn’t mean time gated in the sense that you can only get so much in a day, but it takes a lot of time to grind out all the mats needed for a full set of ascended armor.
Absolutely hate it. If you have the money, it’s still extremely easy to obtain it on the spot while the casual players are punished because they don’t have the time to dedicate themselves to one game. It also locks you into one build in a supposedly “horizontal” progression mmo with the sheer amount of time and mats required to complete it.
I wouldn’t call myself a casual player but the 36 days I spent struggling to get my armor will soon mean little without the right reimbursement.
Edit: Not counting my accessories I got 8 pieces of ascended equipment on my necromancer and 1 on my guardian.
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Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
Leveling is time-gated, so is acquiring ranks in PvP, and so are dungeons, because you have to invest time to do any of them.
Work and education are also time-gated and so are eating and drinking.Posting in the forums is also time-gated because I have to invest some time to think on what to say and some more typing it in. Also, I have to wait 30s before posting again.
Pls remove time-gating ANET.
My point was that even people who prefer to buy gems in order to convert them to gold or people who made lots of gold in the first place to just buy the ascended tradeable mats on the TP for a set of armor and weapons, still have a considerable timegate to pass in aquiring dragonite, shards and bloodstone to make (Lesser) Vision Crystals. Most casual players will find it hard to earn enough mats in a day to even craft a lesser vision crystal per day.
Usually people just call that grind. Unless you mean the temple is once a day per character. Dungeon only give gold once a day.
I think time gate usually described that for example “I can play 10 hours a day, but I still can only get 1 pristine relics.” Weather I play 1 hours a day or 10 hours a day I can’t progress because I’m caped at 1 pristine relics a day.
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Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
Leveling is time-gated, so is acquiring ranks in PvP, and so are dungeons, because you have to invest time to do any of them.
Work and education are also time-gated and so are eating and drinking.Posting in the forums is also time-gated because I have to invest some time to think on what to say and some more typing it in. Also, I have to wait 30s before posting again.
Pls remove time-gating ANET.
Most of those are not time-gated. (I wasn’t aware of the 30s / post rule, but that would be a time gate). There is a huge difference between time-gate and work-gate. For most of those, you can gain as many pvp ranks as stuff you do. If the entire opposing team was in on it, they could line up to let you kill them and you would gain rank after rank after rank. Time-gated ranks would be: “Kill 10 players in this hour to gain 1 rank = killing more than 10 serves no benefit”. dailies, monthlies, and living story are time-gated, but all other achievements are not.
Absolutely hate it. If you have the money, it’s still extremely easy to obtain it on the spot while the casual players are punished because they don’t have the time to dedicate themselves to one game. It also locks you into one build in a supposedly “horizontal” progression mmo with the sheer amount of time and mats required to complete it.
I wouldn’t call myself a casual player but the 36 days I spent struggling to get my armor will soon mean little without the right reimbursement.
Edit: Not counting my accessories I got 8 pieces of ascended equipment on my necromancer and 1 on my guardian.
I got to agree with this.
In GW1 it takes me 2 minutes to switch my build.
In GW2 it takes me 3 months to switch my build (from one ascended gear to another set).
And this is just one character. We can also talk about alt-characters….
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
I edited my post to workgated. This might help you to understand the point I was trying to make.
We keep having this type of thread pop up, so I’ll keep posting this redpost here from the devs themselves:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Character-Progression-Vertical/page/28#post3384259
Whether you like it or not, it’s a reasonable analysis.
We keep having this type of thread pop up, so I’ll keep posting this redpost here from the devs themselves:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Character-Progression-Vertical/page/28#post3384259
Whether you like it or not, it’s a reasonable analysis.
Where at least half the pros can also be cons.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
I edited my post to workgated. This might help you to understand the point I was trying to make.
I personally understand what you are trying to say. But you misused a terminology, that’s why what you say is confusing.
Basically I think that’s all people trying to say. That terminology is usually not used that way.
It seems like all the pros they listed were for one application of time-gating (dailies), while people are most annoyed by a different one (ascended refinement).
dailies could use reworking, but they aren’t bad.
time-gating ascended materials is, on the other hand, bad.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
I edited my post to workgated. This might help you to understand the point I was trying to make.
It’s still not a gate. Inventing your own words for “grind” is not gonna stick. Use the proper, established terms.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
I edited my post to workgated. This might help you to understand the point I was trying to make.
It’s still not a gate. Inventing your own words for “grind” is not gonna stick. Use the proper, established terms.
As you keep discussing terms and not the point in question, i will just ignore your posts.
Interestingly enough, the crafted materials are available on the TP for purchase so you technically are not time gated in acquiring the mats needed to make your ascended gear other than, of course, the vision crystal mats which are account bound.
None of the vision crystal mats are time gated. You can grind them to your heart’s content.
As you cant buy the account bound mats on the tp and you have to invest time to farm them, they are technically timegated.
I don’t think you know what a gate is.
I edited my post to workgated. This might help you to understand the point I was trying to make.
It’s still not a gate. Inventing your own words for “grind” is not gonna stick. Use the proper, established terms.
As you keep discussing terms and not the point in question, i will just ignore your posts.
There is no gate so you don’t have a point. The time gate can be skipped by spending gold and the “workgate” is not a gate at all.
All it takes to get the ascended weapons/armors is a lot of grind. There is absolutely no gating there. You can power through 24/7 and not be stopped at any point by the system.
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