Guild Wars 2

So I got my Minstrel last sunday (happy happy happy). I knew the effects would be lackluster but I did noticed a couple of things that no one has mentioned so far (at least I was not able to find em)..

1) The sound when drawn and/or put into combat. It is like a very low bass sound. Not very harp like at all..
2) The music notes most of the time do not appear at all when you draw the weapon. At the same time, when it does appear, the music notes do not disappear a few seconds after drawn but stay out till the weapon becomes sheathed again.
3) Exactly as number 2 but then for the purple glow.. which is very faint..
4) Sometimes when you sheath the weapon it will display the faint purple glow and the music notes..

The effects seem really broken and random to me. Besides the fact they clearly need an upgrade (which was and is already known by the players) they are just odd to me..

So I was wondering if anyone else noticed this. I am now going to wait for the graphics and/or effects update while enjoying my lovely harp. I still find this one of the better looking focus skins. Only one I think (imho) is better is the anomaly but went for this one instead ^^

(ps, other legendaries did got their upgrades, so I am assuming the same will happen to The Minstrel as well, only question is when.. I wish Anet could give an answer to that..)

Minstrel is widely regarded as the most bugged and lackluster of all Legendaries. Since you did the research on it prior to creating it, you must have known about the downsides to creating this weapon right now. While the Developers have repeatedly stated that the weapon will be getting an overhaul much like the others, a timeline was never established. In all truth, myself and a lot of others hope they fix game breaking trait bugs and balance issues before cosmetically patching a weapon.

@TheDeparted

You realize they have multiple teams working on various aspects of the game, right? Obviously the visual effect guys/artists aren’t going to be working on traits and balance, so they might as well fix/improve the other legendary weapons that are really lackluster…

jwaz.1908:

@TheDeparted

You realize they have multiple teams working on various aspects of the game, right? Obviously the visual effect guys/artists aren’t going to be working on traits and balance, so they might as well fix/improve the other legendary weapons that are really lackluster…

That is basically purely an assumption about how many people are dedicated to doing what and isn’t really relevant. TheDeparted simply expressed the desire of priority that, regardless of what teams there are he hopes they are focusing mainly on actual functionality issues rather than cosmetics.

ocgreg.3910:

That is basically purely an assumption about how many people are dedicated to doing what and isn’t really relevant. TheDeparted simply expressed the desire of priority that, regardless of what teams there are he hopes they are focusing mainly on actual functionality issues rather than cosmetics.

I understood his original message, there’s no need for you to repeat it. I was merely stating that they can do both balancing and cosmetic fixing at the same time (because they DO have separate teams). While yes, balancing the game mechanics should be a priority, legendary weapon fixes and general cosmetics are important to a large amount of the player-base, even if you may not be.

jwaz.1908:

ocgreg.3910:

That is basically purely an assumption about how many people are dedicated to doing what and isn’t really relevant. TheDeparted simply expressed the desire of priority that, regardless of what teams there are he hopes they are focusing mainly on actual functionality issues rather than cosmetics.

I understood his original message, there’s no need for you to repeat it. I was merely stating that they can do both balancing and cosmetic fixing at the same time (because they DO have separate teams). While yes, balancing the game mechanics should be a priority, legendary weapon fixes and general cosmetics are important to a large amount of the player-base, even if you may not be.

It still doesn’t sound like you did and legendary cosmetics apply to an extremely small amount of the player base. And I never said it was not important, I said priorities.

ocgreg.3910:

It still doesn’t sound like you did and legendary cosmetics apply to an extremely small amount of the player base. And I never said it was not important, I said priorities.

I’m not really sure what you mean by ‘extremely small amount of the player base’. Have you not read the crafting/suggestion forums? They are littered with players asking for legendary weapon improvements, and numerous other legendary-related topics.

In addition, legendary weapons are the only end game PvE goals, so if you think that the entire PvE community is ‘extremely small’, I’d ask you to check again.

jwaz.1908:

ocgreg.3910:

It still doesn’t sound like you did and legendary cosmetics apply to an extremely small amount of the player base. And I never said it was not important, I said priorities.

I’m not really sure what you mean by ‘extremely small amount of the player base’. Have you not read the crafting/suggestion forums? They are littered with players asking for legendary weapon improvements, and numerous other legendary-related topics.

In addition, legendary weapons are the only end game PvE goals, so if you think that the entire PvE community is ‘extremely small’, I’d ask you to check again.

Ok so first you misunderstand my point, then you make assumptions, then you extrapolate those assumptions into something I didnt say and then tell me I’m wrong. Seriously? The number of posts in the forums is not an accurate count of how many people play this game at all so using that for reference of player base is silly. Legendaries are costly to get and therefore owner’s of said legendaries are a minority.

Now if we wanted to use your logic, then a majority of the people complaining on the forums about the game are complaining about legendary glitches. but even that is a stretch. There are quite a few of those but there are still plenty of people talking about something completely different. And despite the complaints about said legendaries, people are still working on, and obtaining them so obviously it is not a serious functionality issue and should therefore not be a high priority. Thats all that was said. Fix functionality before cosmetics and you just went off on this weird tangent based on assumptions and putting words in my mouth.

In addition to that, for some ‘real information’ rather than just more of your assumptions. On the first page of the suggestions forum there are roughly ~1200 posts. Of those, only 23 have anything to do with legendaries, neither of which have anything to do with ‘glitches’ in them. So yes, legendary owners are a minority, and I would say the people that have a complaint about them is an even smaller minority.

ocgreg.3910:

Ok so first you misunderstand my point, then you make assumptions, then you extrapolate those assumptions into something I didnt say and then tell me I’m wrong. Seriously? The number of posts in the forums is not an accurate count of how many people play this game at all so using that for reference of player base is silly. Legendaries are costly to get and therefore owner’s of said legendaries are a minority.

Now if we wanted to use your logic, then a majority of the people complaining on the forums about the game are complaining about legendary glitches. but even that is a stretch. There are quite a few of those but there are still plenty of people talking about something completely different. And despite the complaints about said legendaries, people are still working on, and obtaining them so obviously it is not a serious functionality issue and should therefore not be a high priority. Thats all that was said. Fix functionality before cosmetics and you just went off on this weird tangent based on assumptions and putting words in my mouth.

In addition to that, for some ‘real information’ rather than just more of your assumptions. On the first page of the suggestions forum there are roughly ~1200 posts. Of those, only 23 have anything to do with legendaries, neither of which have anything to do with ‘glitches’ in them. So yes, legendary owners are a minority, and I would say the people that have a complaint about them is an even smaller minority.

Looks like I’m not the only one misunderstanding points/putting words into others mouths. I never once said that the majority of the community were legendary owners, I stated that the majority of the PvE community have, or are going for legendary weapons, thus giving them some sort of interest in legendary weapons, whether it be about looks or any other aspect of them. You stated, very clearly I might add, that a small portion of the gw2 community care about legendary weapons and their looks, and I said your statement was false.

In terms of your ‘real information’, I find it funny you used the suggestions forum rather than the crafting forum. The suggestions forums is constantly bombarded by random suggestions all the time, making it hard to gather any consistent or valid information. Using the more appropriate crafting forum though, 397/567 posts have something to do with legendary weapons, which is a much more accurate ratio than your 23/1200.

The funniest part about all this, is that I even agreed with you that functionality should be a priority. I will state again, because you’ve obviously forgotten what my actual point was, that Anet has multiple teams working on stuff, and they aren’t going to make their artists do balance, so they might as well work on legendary weapons and fixing/improving them. It seems you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing…

I have mentioned these before in various other threads, but yeah it’s super buggy.

The harp sound is really the only thing that’s consistant with it, and even then the volume is super low.

I can only twiddle my thumbs and wait for a hot fix.

jwaz.1908:

ocgreg.3910:

Ok so first you misunderstand my point, then you make assumptions, then you extrapolate those assumptions into something I didnt say and then tell me I’m wrong. Seriously? The number of posts in the forums is not an accurate count of how many people play this game at all so using that for reference of player base is silly. Legendaries are costly to get and therefore owner’s of said legendaries are a minority.

Now if we wanted to use your logic, then a majority of the people complaining on the forums about the game are complaining about legendary glitches. but even that is a stretch. There are quite a few of those but there are still plenty of people talking about something completely different. And despite the complaints about said legendaries, people are still working on, and obtaining them so obviously it is not a serious functionality issue and should therefore not be a high priority. Thats all that was said. Fix functionality before cosmetics and you just went off on this weird tangent based on assumptions and putting words in my mouth.

In addition to that, for some ‘real information’ rather than just more of your assumptions. On the first page of the suggestions forum there are roughly ~1200 posts. Of those, only 23 have anything to do with legendaries, neither of which have anything to do with ‘glitches’ in them. So yes, legendary owners are a minority, and I would say the people that have a complaint about them is an even smaller minority.

Looks like I’m not the only one misunderstanding points/putting words into others mouths. I never once said that the majority of the community were legendary owners, I stated that the majority of the PvE community have, or are going for legendary weapons, thus giving them some sort of interest in legendary weapons, whether it be about looks or any other aspect of them. You stated, very clearly I might add, that a small portion of the gw2 community care about legendary weapons and their looks, and I said your statement was false.

In terms of your ‘real information’, I find it funny you used the suggestions forum rather than the crafting forum. The suggestions forums is constantly bombarded by random suggestions all the time, making it hard to gather any consistent or valid information. Using the more appropriate crafting forum though, 397/567 posts have something to do with legendary weapons, which is a much more accurate ratio than your 23/1200.

The funniest part about all this, is that I even agreed with you that functionality should be a priority. I will state again, because you’ve obviously forgotten what my actual point was, that Anet has multiple teams working on stuff, and they aren’t going to make their artists do balance, so they might as well work on legendary weapons and fixing/improving them. It seems you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing…

You putting ‘pve players’ into my mouth is what started that one. I stated that legendary owners represented a small portion of the gw2 player base, which is true, you are the one that decided to pretend that I said ‘all PvE players’. And guess what it takes two people to argue so I guess we are both just doing this for fun? I also find it funny that you have issue with me using the suggestions forum since it was the forum that YOU mentioned in the first place to site the issue with legendaries. My only point originally was that you dont fully know what the dev team for gw2 looks like.

ocgreg.3910:

You putting ‘pve players’ into my mouth is what started that one. I stated that legendary owners represented a small portion of the gw2 player base, which is true, you are the one that decided to pretend that I said ‘all PvE players’. And guess what it takes two people to argue so I guess we are both just doing this for fun? I also find it funny that you have issue with me using the suggestions forum since it was the forum that YOU mentioned in the first place to site the issue with legendaries. My only point originally was that you dont fully know what the dev team for gw2 looks like.

We had a minor miscommunication, you said ‘legendary cosmetics apply to an extremely small amount of the player base’, which in my mind doesn’t mean those who own legendary weapons themselves (which yes is a small portion of the community), but anyone that either has, is going for, or just has a general interest in legendary weapons (not everyone that posts about the effects have their legendary weapon yet).

True I did say “crafting/suggestions forum”, because both have been used to make posts about legendary weapons, it’s just that the suggestions forum is too random and unfocused, since people make tons of threads every day about different things, whereas the crafting forum is less chaotic and more focused on crafting (including legendary weapon crafting).

And you’re right, I don’t know exactly what the dev team looks like, but we have been told by devs multiple times that there are dozens of different teams working on various aspects of the game , and I would assume they wouldn’t make artists/designers to balancing or skill/trait fixing (something that Josh Foreman has stated).

koopatroopa.5360:

I have mentioned these before in various other threads, but yeah it’s super buggy.

The harp sound is really the only thing that’s consistant with it, and even then the volume is super low.

I can only twiddle my thumbs and wait for a hot fix.

Guess I have missed that then, meh, anyway thanx, I will still enjoy my harp though and enjoy the music notes when they do come out