Will Forge Weapons Become Ascended?

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

Q:

Will weapons that are constructed in the Mystic Forge be promoted to ascended quality?

Examples:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Whisperblade
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vision_of_the_Mists

Currently they are exotic quality only. They cost more to assemble than an ascended weapon.

If not, I guess I’ll just use a transmutation stone, but it seems a waste of a valuable stone.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: Lpfan.3578

Lpfan.3578

I’m guessing they will remain exotic. This gives ANet more level 80 transmutation crystal sales, thus more cash paid or more gold sunk for players who want those skins.

I think it would be great if they became ascended, but since it didn’t happen with the ascended weapons release I doubt that it will happen at all.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

I’m sure they are just a skin now and so far I have replaced all three of my Ascended weapons with an old skin.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

They really should change the recipe to be a skin… would still save the stone. I guess that goes against gem store sales though.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: bigmonto.4215

bigmonto.4215

While these weapons does cost a lot to make, it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t need crafting to be 500 to get these weapons.

I believe ANet meant for ascended weapons and armor to be a perk to crafting at least for now. The real cost of ascended weapons really is the amount to get the crafting 500, which actually is more than the cost of making these Mystic Forge weapons.

I seriously doubt ANet would ever promote the existing Mystic Forge weapons to ascended, but I bet they will introduce new recipes in the future which will most likely include ascended mats.

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Posted by: Morsus.5106

Morsus.5106

Well, Precursors are still exotic, so until those get boosted I doubt these will. Though Ascended weps can drop from champ loot boxes, so I imagine there will be more ways to get Ascended weps in the future.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

While these weapons does cost a lot to make, it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t need crafting to be 500 to get these weapons.

So? You don’t need crafting 500 to get legendaries, and they are certainly ascended level. And the cost of lot of the exotic Mystic Forged weapons is ridiculously high.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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IMO Infinite Light yes, the rest, no. I would put that into the same kinda category as the triforce pendant. Maybe the others that have a very high lodestone +250 t6 crafted item cost. The rest though, nah. Look at anomaly. It’s only like 85g through offers.

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Posted by: bigmonto.4215

bigmonto.4215

While these weapons does cost a lot to make, it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t need crafting to be 500 to get these weapons.

So? You don’t need crafting 500 to get legendaries, and they are certainly ascended level. And the cost of lot of the exotic Mystic Forged weapons is ridiculously high.

1. The cost of the exotic Mystic Forged weapons is a function of the price of the mats, and those are determent by supply and demand. Thus the cost of something has nothing to do with whether it should be ascended.

2. According to the dev, in the future you can craft precursor with 500 crafting skills. So in a way you do need 500 crafting skills to get a legendary, unless you are depending on a drop.

3. People don’t get the exotic Mystic Forged weapons for the stats. You can have exotic weapon of the same stats at a fraction of the cost. People get it for the skin. You can always transmute that skin with a Ascended stats weapons to upgrade it therefore it certain doesn’t get devalued now that ascended stats are out.

Lets face it, those who is asking for exotic Mystic Forged weapon being upgraded are asking for free handouts.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

@bigmonto: I disagree strongly with “looking for free handouts”. Nobody asked for a free weapon. Try to stay on topic — honestly — no use of the word “entitled” ???, I really expected that from a response like yours.

Cost does play into it — and item #1 in your post above applies to every creafted item (Mystic Forge or Crafting Table — irrelevant). The mats required to forge Whisperblade are well over 100g right now. That’s significantly more cost than crafting my Zojja’s Greatsword… seriously.

I agree that players get the weapons for the skin — but if that’s the intent then ANet should have made the recipes produce skins… not weapons. Agreed?

Since these items are actual weapons, they should be best-in-class given the costs involved.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: bigmonto.4215

bigmonto.4215

Nope, cost has nothing to do with the level or the quality of the gear. Let take a look at the mats, iron ore are more expensive than mithril ore. Does that mean iron gear should automatically be better than mithril gears?

Also Zojja’s Greatsword + crafting to 500 >> 100g by the way.

Just because Whisperblade cost over 100g to make, that doesn’t mean a ascended Mystic Forged weapons (while I am sure ANet will introduce later) wouldn’t cost even more. (250 Deldrimor Steel Ingots anyone?)

Just because players get the weapons for their skin, it does not mean Anet should have it produce skins. I would say its Anet’s best interest to have it produce actual weapons so you have to get transmutation stone from real money.

Basically none of your assumption holds.

Even if you are not, a lot of people would be asking for a free upgrade if they already have these weapons, and not wanting to lvl to 500 crafting. I know I would. But lets face it, there is really zero reason why Anet should upgrade these weapons. The only reason would be to give the existing owner of these weapons a free handout. Anet might do that, but its more likely that they would ask you to sink more gold into crafting and sink more money into transmutation stones.

Why do people have such high negative stigma on “asking for free handout” or “entitlement”. It is only human nature to want to set something for free. And it never hurts to ask. Unfortunately there is very little logic to support the upgrade IMO. So for those who is hoping for one, I would say craft a ascended weapon yourself is more likely and easier.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

Nope, cost has nothing to do with the level or the quality of the gear. Let take a look at the mats, iron ore are more expensive than mithril ore. Does that mean iron gear should automatically be better than mithril gears?

Also Zojja’s Greatsword + crafting to 500 >> 100g by the way.

Just because Whisperblade cost over 100g to make, that doesn’t mean a ascended Mystic Forged weapons (while I am sure ANet will introduce later) wouldn’t cost even more. (250 Deldrimor Steel Ingots anyone?)

Just because players get the weapons for their skin, it does not mean Anet should have it produce skins. I would say its Anet’s best interest to have it produce actual weapons so you have to get transmutation stone from real money.

Basically none of your assumption holds.

Even if you are not, a lot of people would be asking for a free upgrade if they already have these weapons, and not wanting to lvl to 500 crafting. I know I would. But lets face it, there is really zero reason why Anet should upgrade these weapons. The only reason would be to give the existing owner of these weapons a free handout. Anet might do that, but its more likely that they would ask you to sink more gold into crafting and sink more money into transmutation stones.

Why do people have such high negative stigma on “asking for free handout” or “entitlement”. It is only human nature to want to set something for free. And it never hurts to ask. Unfortunately there is very little logic to support the upgrade IMO. So for those who is hoping for one, I would say craft a ascended weapon yourself is more likely and easier.

They did it for the triforce pendant because the cost of making them was very very high. I don’t see why they shouldn’t make another exception for infinite light (which I don’t own personally btw).

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