Guild Wars 2

Elessar.7186:

I gotta say, as much as I was looking forward to ascended weapons, I am really disappointed with their execution. As a casual player (once or twice a week), I have enjoyed that I don’t have to participate in a gear grind to stay at the peak of the game. Ascended weapons unfortunately have killed that. It will take me months to craft even one ascended weapon at my rate of play, not to mention what it will take in time and resources to outfit several characters with several weapons.

This to me seems a major departure from the kind of game Anet has told us they intend to make for their players. No gold stars from me on this one.

Yes because everyone should be forced into the play style of a casual player that only plays once or so a week.

You’ll be fine with exotics. There is nothing wrong with putting stuff into the game for people that play the game regularly.

scinder.8315:

EVERY game will be a grind if you pull the ‘OMG I need it now argument’. Try playing the game without trying to rush through everything in one day.

I haven’t even started looking at crafting yet and the patch has been out for most of a week. I’ll start by slowly doing the normal world activities and level it gradually, while continuing to play the game as I normally would do. No grind at all for me.

WRONG! This is a grind and the manifesto died along with the introduction of ascended gear in general. Before that, you could buy best in class from the TP. That meant people could play the way they wanted. Now they have to play a very specific way in order to get the components they want. Unfortunately, GW2 is transforming into the typical MMO.

to those who say that it isn’t a grind…

it IS a grind. don’t kid yourself.

please tell me how to get ascended accessory. yes, i know how, but please let’s review how you get it. enlighten everyone now how you have to be in guild that runs all the options that give commendations, how you can’t miss that weekly run and how you get 1 item every 2 weeks. or you can do your dailies EVERYDAY for 1 month (30 daily laurel and 10 monthly) for 1 accessory. tell me now how that is not a grind. now compare that to how i can acquire exotic accessory and how it opens up variety of builds.

we don’t need ascended you say? well, we also don’t need exotics, what’s your point?

i’ve had 8 80s for a while now. all in multiple exotic sets. i play around with different build setups for all of them. but i only have 1 ascended item.

^^ Your kidding right? It’s about 4-5 hours of content to get the guild coms for a ring, a BiS piece of gear. It’s not relevant if it’s spread over 2 weeks or not, because your not actively doing stuff in that whole two weeks to get it … Seriously, 4 or 5 hours. That doesn’t even come close to what I would consider grinding. I guess you are new to MMO’s? I’ve played games where it takes HUNDREDS of hours to get an item or even get a level. THAT is grinding

I’m not sure how anyone can consider watching event timers and porting around to auto-attack “world bosses” not a grind.

I would argue it’s not a grind because you don’t need to do it to get the stuff they drop.

But then you’d notice that the only other source of Dragonite Ore is keeps and castle, the most defended WvW fortifications.

And that capping a keep gives you AT BEST 5 ores. So that’s 100 keeps. For a weapon. On average (It varies a lot based on matchup) you don’t cap more than a keep every 2 hours of WvW gameplay. So that’s 200h of WvW to get enough ores for a single weapon. Let’s not forget that taking the same keep twice in a day isn’t gonna yeld dragonite ores.

Not a grind.

oh. don’t get me wrong. i can get more ascended if i wanted to. i’m part of a big guild that does the weekly guild missions in about 2 hours. you miss the call time, you miss it for the week. don’t tell me you’re some big shot that can demand other people’s time to run guild missions for YOUR commendations.

don’t get me wrong, i CHOOSE not to use my laurels on ascended items because it will limit my build.

stop arguing about how it’s not required. it IS. you don’t need exotics too by that logic, but unless you can back that up with a video of yourself in all yellows against an equally skilled opponent in exotics/ascended in wvw, then you can’t deny that it is required. don’t kid yourself.

it IS a grind.

i’m not rushing for ascended items at all and i’m not pressured to. but i can’t understand how anyone can defend it not being a grind.

prove that it’s not a grind: show me all 8 characters with at least 2 sets of complete ascended gear.

Obtena.7952:

That doesn’t even come close to what I would consider grinding. I guess you are new to MMO’s? I’ve played games where it takes HUNDREDS of hours to get an item or even get a level. THAT is grinding

so it’s not a grind because it’s not as grindy as other mmo’s that you’ve played before.

new to mmo’s? not really, but even if i was, what difference would it make? so what’s your point? by that logic, a 7ft person isn’t really tall, because you’ve seen 15ft people. an elephant really isn’t that big because you’ve seen whales. god forbid, a killer isn’t really a murderer because he doesn’t compare to a tyrant (sorry that escalated quickly for argument’s sake).

It’s like, every single person who is ok with ascended gear doesn’t even know WvW exists, or else only see it as an inefficient way to get loot by tagging bodies in a zerg. All they see in the game is their silly PvE skinner box of “work and rewards”. There is no possible way to argue with them because they want the game to be work.

For me, ascended gear would be perfectly fine if it was downscaled to exotic stats in WvW. Don’t dilute our competitiveness with this extra grind nonsense.

luckywaldo.6089:

It’s like, every single person who is ok with ascended gear doesn’t even know WvW exists, or else only see it as an inefficient way to get loot by tagging bodies in a zerg. All they see in the game is their silly PvE skinner box of “work and rewards”. There is no possible way to argue with them because they want the game to be work.

For me, ascended gear would be perfectly fine if it was downscaled to exotic stats in WvW. Don’t dilute our competitiveness with this extra grind nonsense.

This is false. I WvW primarily. I hadn’t done a dungeon, dragon, or temple for months until the ascended patch hit.

The difference between SPvP and WvW to me is that WvW allows me to equip myself with all available game items with stats and everything about them left as is. It is pvp with my character as they are not in a vacuum. Whenever they add something to the game, whether it be gear, traits, or skills, I want them available as is for my character in WvW. If WvW were turned into a vacuum like you are suggested, like SPvP, I would quit GW2 the next day.

Ascended gear just adds another thing for me to do to the game. My 1 and only issue with the ascended gear is that they need to adjust the WvW availability of the mats. It should be just as easy as spamming CoF and afk auto attacking dragons to get those mats in WvW. You should be able to trade large amounts of badges for those mats in bulk.