Guild Wars 2

As the title states why in the world is it ok for some exotics to cost as much as or MORE then their legendary counterparts? Two examples that have acctually fell in price from what they were the last few days (charged lodestones are down to 2g 12 s from the 2g 50 s they have been hovering around), still remain at or slightly below legendary pricing.

-Infinite light= 1 eldritch scroll + 250 orichalcum gs blades + 250 charged lodestones + 100 mystic coins. The approximate cost is 665 ish gold, bolt costs approximately 862 gold. Two days ago Infinit light cost almost exactly the same price as bolt (it even fluctuated higher at one point), and fell back below it thanks to lodestones falling slightly in value and zap shooting up in price for some reason.

-Mjolnir=1 eldritch scroll + 100 mystic coins + 250 charged lodestones + gift of lightning (250 orichalcum ingot + 250 bolt of gossamer + 100 charged lodestone + gift of ascalon). This costs approximately 712 gold, whereas juggernaught costs a mere 58 gold more.

I would also assume some of the foefire weapons and Volcanus need their pricing looked at, but have not had the time tonight to check into it. While I LOVE the fact that there are weapons that are not legendary but take a good deal of work to get, I do not understand them being about the same cost as a legendary (they will eclipse legendaries in price/difficulty to obtain if legendaries are made more obtainable) yet not they are not legendary. Would it be possible to get some word on this arenanet?

You’re numbers are quite conservative. Charged lodestones are more than 2 gold each, realistically expect to pay at least 2.5 gold per.

Yeah expect to pay upwards of 2.5 since you’ll be needing 350 lodestones. There isnt that much supply. If you were to buy out all the lodestones, there was ones that are sitting on upwards of 3g last i checked.

Overall they are conservative right now (especially for the lodestone heavy exotics) since I just calculated them and lodestones tanked about 40 silver the last day and a half.

I imagine when the week hits they will shoot back up and Infinite light will reach Bolt’s price (or more if zap goes back down to what it was last week) and Mjolnir will FAR eclipse Juggernaught. Ill redo the numbers tomorrow evening, and if I have time do Volcanus and one or two of the Foefire weapons.

Edit for something I forgot to mention
It also should be taken into account that legendaries are a bit inflated right now due to the t6 mats being so volatile due to bots disappearing. I imagine once the prices stableize they will slightly go down in price.
On top of this is the panic a lot of people who have precursors are under due to the message of the precursors being messed with next patch. This has caused a fair bit of volatility in the prices as well.

I don’t get it, if you think that they are better looking than legendaries, what’s to stop you from acquiring them? The only thing that will be missing is that you don’t have a purple label on the weapon. To me, that’s not such a big deal so long as the skin is nice on the outside.

Same i still prefer exotic weapons. The legendary weapons leave a trail in WvW which screams kill me.

Kid Taylor.5479:

I don’t get it, if you think that they are better looking than legendaries, what’s to stop you from acquiring them? The only thing that will be missing is that you don’t have a purple label on the weapon. To me, that’s not such a big deal so long as the skin is nice on the outside.

Your missing a lot of the point. Its not about if you like the look of the weapon more or not, its that an exotic takes as much gold or MORE gold to make compared to a legendary (which also happen to have several meta achievements tied to it). When the penultement hard to reach goal in this game (legendary) is the same or easier to get than a higher end exotic, something is off, and this problem will only become worse if they make precursors more obtainable.

Angrec.6970:

Kid Taylor.5479:

I don’t get it, if you think that they are better looking than legendaries, what’s to stop you from acquiring them? The only thing that will be missing is that you don’t have a purple label on the weapon. To me, that’s not such a big deal so long as the skin is nice on the outside.

Your missing a lot of the point. Its not about if you like the look of the weapon more or not, its that an exotic takes as much gold or MORE gold to make compared to a legendary (which also happen to have several meta achievements tied to it). When the penultement hard to reach goal in this game (legendary) is the same or easier to get than a higher end exotic, something is off, and this problem will only become worse if they make precursors more obtainable.

Your eyes are focused on the money it seems. Your forgetting time and time equals money to alot of people. Also if your using that legendary spreadsheet that adds it all up for you that I saw on reddit then your forgetting it doesnt add in the cost of karma. The globs of ecto are estimated so your numbers are slightly off.

Anyway eyes on money man. I assume your not working on a legendary cause karma farming isn’t super fun I don’t mind it cause I don’t mind grind, so I would factor that in as time and as money. You don’t just get 850k(with excellent luck) karma for free. So legendaries are still more expensive than the other weapons if you look at it that way. You have also forgotten map completion which is more time. I think those items are where they should be in price. Part of the reason is mr money man if you look at the tp the reason they cost so much is the lodestones and lodestones are shared among many good looking weapons and there is no supply to keep up with demand. Im going to assume you already knew this since we are focused on the $$

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

I don’t see the problem? If you want a nice skin you need to pay for it. If you love the skin who cares if the item name is purple or orange? And besides that you will probably transmute the legendary onto an exotic with the correct stats anyways, thus loosing it’s legendary status.

Angrec.6970:

Kid Taylor.5479:

I don’t get it, if you think that they are better looking than legendaries, what’s to stop you from acquiring them? The only thing that will be missing is that you don’t have a purple label on the weapon. To me, that’s not such a big deal so long as the skin is nice on the outside.

Your missing a lot of the point. Its not about if you like the look of the weapon more or not, its that an exotic takes as much gold or MORE gold to make compared to a legendary (which also happen to have several meta achievements tied to it). When the penultement hard to reach goal in this game (legendary) is the same or easier to get than a higher end exotic, something is off, and this problem will only become worse if they make precursors more obtainable.

I just get it now, you just dont like the fact, that these weapons are labeled as exotic and you cant show off with them, because they dont have ’’legendary’’ status right ?

I tell you one thing, no one cares about small label ’’exotic’’ ’’legendary’’ The price is the prestigue factor So for me, exotic weapons that cost 1000g is far more awesome than legendary that cost 400g

Vayra.3290:

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

btw Its 1 mil karma, sometimes less

Dogblaster.6713:

Vayra.3290:

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

btw Its 1 mil karma, sometimes less

Depends on luck :P Remember that you also need 250 for the weapon itself, not just for the clovers.

Vayra.3290:

Dogblaster.6713:

Vayra.3290:

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

btw Its 1 mil karma, sometimes less

Depends on luck :P Remember that you also need 250 for the weapon itself, not just for the clovers.

Yes and avarage for clover is 500k karma

sorry but i didnt read all the previous comments so i dont know if someoen said this already

please think before you make a psot op, legendary is just a quality – why can’t those VERY – high – end exotics be there?

you want them to be cheap so everyone can use them kitten ??
no, having items like this in a game really divides the players into classes and this just is great…

Dogblaster.6713:

I just get it now, you just dont like the fact, that these weapons are labeled as exotic and you cant show off with them, because they dont have ’’legendary’’ status right ?

I tell you one thing, no one cares about small label ’’exotic’’ ’’legendary’’ The price is the prestigue factor So for me, exotic weapons that cost 1000g is far more awesome than legendary that cost 400g

I was actually figuring into the total for the legendary the average cost of the clovers.

Im not wanting this to be cheaper just for me to get one. I find something is off if a weapon that has several achievements tied to it, a banner on the character select screen, its own rank, the special arm or footprint particle effects, and being toted the “hardest to get item in the game” is the same price or less then some of these exotics due to how screwed up lodestones are. I would imagine they will fall even more out of balance if the lodestones arent adjusted but the precursors are (which arenanet has mentioned they are messing with in the next patch).

The whole issue completely revolves around how bad lodestones are, and this is only one issue related to it. If you want further evidence look into potions and how worthless it is to make them thanks to having to use them.