Guild Wars 2

How are we supposed to effectively kill 15 people in the Aspect Arena?
1) Invulnerability skills from Air and #5 Sun, reload way too quick and length way too long.
2) Arena is way too small if you consider 1) is fine.
3) Lightning trap can be escaped with invulnerability skills.
4) Throwing people away of the arena does not count as a kill.

I am not even sure kills are shared among team members, do you have to be the one to do the final shoot to have the point or just hit is enough?
This arena is so frustrating..

If it’s like any other kill count in game, just enough damage to tag them should do as long as they die.

Navzar.2938:

If it’s like any other kill count in game, just enough damage to tag them should do as long as they die.

You must not have played it. Crystal breaker is very hard with the size of the arena and the current skills.

You have to travel in packs with your team and hope they dont use light dash.

Navzar.2938:

If it’s like any other kill count in game, just enough damage to tag them should do as long as they die.

No, it doesn’t count properly. If you throw them and get a kill, the achievement does not register the break, even though you got a kill.

Just takes time. If you focus on it you should be able to finish it by the time you wrap up the other achievement (15 game achievement). Same with Crystal Capper. You’re just basically capping once and killing one crystal carrier per match. That’s not difficult if you don’t get distracted by the other things going on.

meh i got this achievement in only 2 games lol

One possibility is to find someone in the opposite team (with the map channel) who also want to complete the achievement and to make a pact with him. You stay together and take one cristal you wait to be kill by your “friend” then it will do it for you, since the crystal will reappear at the same place it will be quick (i just recommand you to not choose a crystal in the middle of the field, too much people)

Or you can still do it after the score appear since killing someone after this will valid the kill for the achievement and will not pertubate the game.

I know people will say that it is not the normal way to do it but with this you will get quickly your achievement and you will not bother anymore the normal game by letting the other players play normally .

Yeah. I just tried.

It’s bugged.

If you or someone else pushes the enemy down, it will not count towards the achievement.

Edit: It does count sometimes. But so far I only got about 2 from over 20 pushes to the death, after making sure the enemy was ‘tagged’.

Not in one instance it counted if someone else pushed the enemy, even if I did most of the damage.

Unless something has drastically changed in the few days I have taken a break from this mode, there is nothing hard about the achievements. Just play the games and you will eventually get them.

Just play 6 games and you will probably have the 15 kills already, next to the extra loot bag…

I’ve gotten over 30 kills in one game, and my transient party was like lolwatnecromancer? even though the profession obviously doesn’t matter. As long as one person is trying to get the crystal running achievement, they’ll score your team points, so you can focus on grabbing the fire aspect and just killing everyone you come across.

Don’t push people off, that’s just silly. It’s also annoying when people run off the edge to deny you kills. Just use your blind, the black hole and then autoattack to death; because of the blind, fire aspect can hold up against 2v1.

i would get done with crystal runner first or whatever it’s called. and then after that you can focus on killing crystal bearers. i just “camp” near crystal sites. not exactly at it, but usually give room for the opposing side to get it and then just do your best to take ’em down. without using pushes or pulls to knock them off. ideally you can run with a group to make things a lot easier.

I am not saying the achievement is impossible, I am saying it is frustrating..
And people saying “I got 30 kill in one game” or “I did it in 6 games”, you are just the 0.001% of the player base, realize it please..

lcpdragonslayer.7895:

I’ve gotten over 30 kills in one game, and my transient party was like lolwatnecromancer? even though the profession obviously doesn’t matter. As long as one person is trying to get the crystal running achievement, they’ll score your team points, so you can focus on grabbing the fire aspect and just killing everyone you come across.

Don’t push people off, that’s just silly. It’s also annoying when people run off the edge to deny you kills. Just use your blind, the black hole and then autoattack to death; because of the blind, fire aspect can hold up against 2v1.

I think there may be some confusion here.

While 30 kills in a match is not difficult to pull off, the original poster is talking about the achievement which requires you to specifically kill 15 crystal carriers, not random opponents – a lot harder to do in a single match unless something strange is going on in your game since there’s a 5 minute time limit and only two crystals active at any given moment. 30 carrier kills would require killing a crystal carrier every 10 seconds and they have to actually spend time traveling to the crystal pick-up point first and channeling for 5 seconds.. so, yeah. Not happening. :P

If the carriers are worth their salt is close to impossible to kill them, specially if they concentrate on the closest crystals (as those going for the capper achievement do), not counting the trolls that kill themselves on purpose.

It would be nice if the achievement could be completed after the bazaar, while the Aspect Arena is on rotation.

Tag them with a moderater amount of damage, walk off, still get credit….

Oh for crying out loud…. There are people who can whine over anything!

It took me more time than I planned (25+ games), but I got this achievement. Sure, some players ( tbh including myself ) are hard to kill but most of them ARE NOT.

Please, just please… stahp ><

The simple solution would be to make these kinds of achievements collaborative and team-based, instead of ensuring that most people deliberately skew the way they play the game to focus on their solo achievements, often to the detriment of team play.

Threepsie.3248:

Just play 6 games and you will probably have the 15 kills already, next to the extra loot bag…

It’s 12 games of Aspect Arena to get the loot bag.

This Achievement really is not that difficult.. at all. Had mine done within a couple days after the patch. You also don’t NEED the achievement. I mean unless you’re achievement hungry and trying to get every one, you can just skip this one.

Delvoire.8930:

This Achievement really is not that difficult.. at all. Had mine done within a couple days after the patch.

That’s because 2 days after the patch people were still new at it.
Now we know which element to choose if we plan on being the carrier, the defender or the attacker. Try doing it now. It’s much harder.

i didn’t see this OP as a “whine” at all. legit questions and described situations i’ve seen in-game. i think the aspect arena is really fun actually! first few games was frustrating when all people did was CC and kill me when i wasn’t even near a crystal or attacking theirs… i guess in PvP, when you see a red then yuo jsut want to killkillkill…. but that’s besides the point. after you get the hang of it, it’s really enjoyable.

this achievement was still quite tough though. i think it really depends on your team makeup. i didn’t get it done in one sitting.. the first half of my crystal breaker kills was w hen i was on a team that was seemingly moer competent. at least.. not hung up on fighting over a crystal in the mid (where ppl come back within 2 s after dying anyways) and paid close attention to enemy crystal cappers / bearers and we’d usualyl move as a group 2 – 3 to stop them. this obviously made killing crystal bearers a LOT easier.

then last night everyone seemed to be on their own doing their own thing. i called targets, or asked in Team chat for back up and most often, no one responded. so it’s like OP said, if it’s a 1v1 and depending on your attunement, it’s pretty tough to stop and kill a crystal bearer if they know what they are doing.

i’ll admit, i did something i am not proud of last night. :// a few talked in map chat and we coordinated for kills. some on the map didn’t know what was going on, so we explained to them but after most people who were goign for achieves and didn’t mind getting them that way, we played without alterior motives and it was a lot of fun. we apologized to those who were there to play and they saw where we were coming from. now i don’t know if they actually meant that, but the people who were able to get the achieve or some progress were thankful.

again, i know i’m getting into a slippery slope here because the “if you didn’t achieve it, you didn’t achieve it” crowd… we still all had a lot of fun in the end.

Zanshin.5379:

Delvoire.8930:

This Achievement really is not that difficult.. at all. Had mine done within a couple days after the patch.

That’s because 2 days after the patch people were still new at it.
Now we know which element to choose if we plan on being the carrier, the defender or the attacker. Try doing it now. It’s much harder.

I still play this a lot. It’s a nice way to get some coin and loot for my toons that are nearing 80. Since I have the achievement already I can’t tell when I get a kill on a crystal bearer, but I still kill many. I love this mini game and do well in it. It may just not be for everyone though. All 3 aspects have their pluses and minuses and if you actually run with 1 or 2 teammates you will melt the opposition. I’ve easily played 50 matches of this mini game where i’ve only done about 18 of Southsun Survival.

You may want to go in and see if you can’t find a group that will let you take turns for the achievement, I was working on the 15 kills last night and someone else working on it in my instance asked in map chat it we couldn’t just take turns killing each other. So we all did that until we had our achievement. Some people want to actually play and will complain, I understand, but our whole group was fine with the arrangement and went back to playing after we all got credit.

I see what Anen means now. Everybody is just abusing sun skill 5 to death. Really unbalances it.

It heavily depends on your groups. Some opposing teams are really good carriers and will rarely get killed. Some allies will never help you kill enemies, some enemies will jump to their deaths depriving you of your achievement. Some enemies are so bad they almost never carry the crystal.

I ended up playing about 15 games before the pool of players dropped to just me and one other guy. We ended up trading Crystal Breaker to max this achievement (I needed 7 more, he needed 13). I actually enjoyed the arena but that ahievement ruined it for me. With so much other stuff to finish I was getting frustrated with how hard it was to get kills on people carrying a crystal (usually people just fight to the death to claim the crystal). It didn’t help that very rarely would the enemy team carry a crystal. I was going out of my way to let players carry the crystal just so I could have a chance to kill them (despite all the escape skills and enemies stopping me). I was ignoring crystal captures and happily losing matches just to chase skills. Limited time achievements really kill the experience for me sometimes.