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Posted by: matthewr.3980

matthewr.3980

Today was the first time I’ve got to get in-game and try out the Election content.

I tried out the first tier of Candidate Trials and I have to say that it was an irritating, stressful time.

Trying to run around and kill the people stealing the loot, while you have numerous other people spawning and attacking you, with the helper NPC dying immediately and not being useful at all.

From playing it a few times, and reading a few tips online, this is my conclusion:

1) You have to group. Sorry casual players that may not be in a guild or may not group up that often.

OR

2) You must have the right class. If your class can’t AOE/Might spike damage groups of mobs, then you have no chance.

This content should be solo’able, and it should be possible with more than just a few classes.

And it’s an achievement that may have to be gotten to complete a meta-achievement for an event that isn’t likely to happen again in the future, unlike holiday events.

If people want a challenge, add a hard-mode option to the start of it.

It shouldn’t be this hard. It shouldn’t require grouping. It shouldn’t require a specific style of class.

I did not have fun.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

Every class has beaten this since the patch. This is a massive MULTIPLAYER online (MMO) game. You’re going to have to expect to group up for some content. Most of the game can still be done solo. Tiers 3 and 4 were meant to be challenging. There’s plenty of other achievements to do to get the reward so this is completely optional.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

I agree with the OP’s premise that the Candidate Trials are not fun. The fact that it can be completed does not make it fun.

I anticipated a Tower Defense style game where a wave is defeated followed by downtime where you can bunker up followed by the next wave.

Instead, we get mobs to kill, then more mobs to kill, then more mobs to kill, etc. It is boring at best and aggravating at worst (when the mobs aren’t killed fast enough).

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Posted by: Rookdahta.9058

Rookdahta.9058

I agree with the OP too. There should be a warning that a group is recommended for this content. Trying to solo it is just plain frustration. At least for a casual gamer like me. Maybe some break between waves would help but now Im just swarmed after a couple of minutes regardless of the weapons and tactics I try.

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Posted by: Verkinix.5296

Verkinix.5296

Man, I have to agree with OP as well. I attempted to solo tier 2 and died (and lost all of my armor in the process) probably 20-25 attempts. Eventually my buddy came on and we tried to dual it. We had no success after about 10 attempts and another full armor repair (~25s). We quit in frustration. The next day I sat for almost an hour and sending messages in map chat and private whispers to try and get a group together to do tier 2. Not a single person was interested! That was beyond frustrating.

So then I tried Ellen Kiels equivalent (thinking it had to be something different than the opposing candidate). Needless to say I rage quit the game when I found out it was the exact same mission!

What’s even more frustrating is that the whole cutthroat politics event requires extensive pvp/grouping to complete the main achievements. I’m a PvE primary player and prefer to play solo or with 1-2 others. I dont have alot of time to play in general making me a casual player with limited friends (most of which are rarely on to begin with). I dont really enjoy pvp nor attempting to find groups who are willing to do dungeons or fractals. That’s not to say I wouldn’t like to do more PvE things in groups, but my skill levels are far lower than those who are able to play more often.

The Kiel arena events with crystal capture the flag was not fun for me. Every 2 seconds I was getting blown off the edge or falling off the edge from dodge rolling. It wasn’t anything I was interested in and I didn’t spend much time with it.

The Evon survivor thing was actually pretty fun once I figured out how it was supposed to be played, but I wasn’t any good at it. I spent most of the time as a spirit, waiting 10 minutes for the end as there didn’t seem to be anything to do after death. Sometimes I would just quit out, but ended up not getting credit.

Anyway, my point is that I just did not find the cutthroat politics event fun as there really wasn’t anything I could do without getting completely slaughtered in pvp or having no success in finding groups.

The Labrinthine area and aspect powers are really awesome. I really enjoyed jumping for shards and getting to the diving goggles. I really wish they had done more to really use the aspect powers beyond the Kiel arena. It would have seemed more worthwhile if the main achievements could be completed by either doing the pvp stuff or doing pve stuff. As it was, there were like 2 achievements that could be completed solo. The other dozen or so all required some form of player interaction which is just too challenging for casual players or too difficult to find a group who is tolerant of less experienced players.

I do hope that when they implement LFG functionality, they implement a check box for “casual” players. That way pick up groups know that they are intentionally casual or regular. I also hope that dungeons get a “casual” mode that can be completed by 2-3 players who are just wanting to do the story and have some mild runs with mild loot. There’s just not that much time available to me right now to really delve into anything that requires hardcore gaming core and all I want to do is have a casual challenge and complete something in a timely fashion.

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Posted by: Delvoire.8930

Delvoire.8930

I’ll agree with the OP as well that I wasn’t a fan of the trials. I just decided to skip that part of this content all together. I achieved both mini’s by doing other Achievements so it wasn’t a loss. From what I understand, the drops and reward aren’t that great anyways. It sucks because I like doing most of the living story content when it drops. I actually usually just skip out on the mini-games but this time it was basically opposite.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

I’ll agree with the OP as well that I wasn’t a fan of the trials. I just decided to skip that part of this content all together. I achieved both mini’s by doing other Achievements so it wasn’t a loss. From what I understand, the drops and reward aren’t that great anyways. It sucks because I like doing most of the living story content when it drops. I actually usually just skip out on the mini-games but this time it was basically opposite.

But… But… But… Don’t you WANT to have 50 Broken Lockpicks as a reward for a timed event?

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Posted by: Delvoire.8930

Delvoire.8930

Keep the lockpicks and just give me 1s instead. It’s about the same value, right?

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Posted by: Draconicus.7564

Draconicus.7564

This is a massive MULTIPLAYER online (MMO) game. You’re going to have to expect to group up for some content.

Multiplayer & MMO just means that’s a game only played using Internet (On Line), and where it’s expected to encounter tons of people!! Doesn’t mean that’s a place where players must play together!!
Don’t mix garlic with Oranges pls!

And i also don’t like this event, ugly with no fun! With achievements too hard for the casual to complete.
I personaly don’t see the “fun” in been forced to grind like a crazy a activity in order to complete the last tier of the achiv. … … .. just boring!

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

Why do we have to do the candidates work? Candidates should doing things for players votes. Instead of giving players orders. It should be the other way around.

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Posted by: Xavier Eledhwen.6901

Xavier Eledhwen.6901

I agree with the OP and would like to take it up a level, and state in fact they SUCKED!

So of us, are NOT going to be hard core players, we just have a bit of time and want to have fun, not analyzing everything little angle there is in the game. Some of us, do NOT want to have to group for everything, nor do PvP or WvW.

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

liefbread.9513

I found this easier to solo honestly, and I’ve run more than 30-40 people through the content. My primary concern is that aetherized weapons do not seem to be dropping since the patch and I can’t seem to get a dev to acknowledge that fact or comment on it.

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Posted by: Avatara.1042

Avatara.1042

I have completed tier 4 solo, and I have to agree with the OP. This is easily the least fun event in the short history of GW2. It is badly designed, bug-ridden, and just plain horrible.

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

Why can’t this be normal DE’s?

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

I feel that the main problem with the Trials is that it’s easier to solo it than to go in with a group, and that the difficulty of trying to complete T3/4 normally means that everybody is trying to cheese it. That discourages people from doing it the “normal” way. Challenging content is fine, but making content that’s SO hard that people just wind up using exploity gimmicks or refusing to group up for it is making the player experience worse, not better.

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Posted by: Zacchaeed.2834

Zacchaeed.2834

The content is optional, you don’t have to do it.

It’s actually easier to solo if you’re a glass cannon, check the thread out about T4 trials.

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Posted by: MissyMI.7295

MissyMI.7295

I really wanted the achievements for these, so a guild mate helped me out. We made it through Evon’s t3 and t4 trials… oh about 3 hours ago. Achieve never popped for me. Did them again, made sure we did 3 then 4 but no luck. Started over again trying to do them in order starting at 1, but can’t get the 4th one down now. I’m tired, wasted a whole afternoon. This is not fun.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

Every Zerker has beaten this since the patch.

Big difference

When life gives you lemon, ask if its from a anime or manga.

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Posted by: Avatara.1042

Avatara.1042

The content is optional, you don’t have to do it.

It’s actually easier to solo if you’re a glass cannon, check the thread out about T4 trials.

Anet should just produce complete rubbish then, because it is optional, right?

Genius…

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

Every Zerker has beaten this since the patch.

Big difference

Full support guardians have also beaten it.

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Posted by: Geniekid.2645

Geniekid.2645

Agree with OP. It was not as much fun as a hero defense (survive X waves) would’ve been. Even though I completed all tiers (but out of order which means I don’t get the achievement), I didn’t find any of it fun at any tier.