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Posted by: Zylonite.5913

Zylonite.5913

Cutthroat Politics is just a pointless addition to the boring Living story. It doesn’t even deserve to be called a content patch.

1. If you really think that 1 cutscene and a couple of NPC conversations is going to give all the background info to the player then you are living in the clouds…Please step on earth; It is not such a bad place….

2. If we are voting for two candidates, then why we are allowed to vote for both? Voting for one candidate should disable voting for the other candidate? When you vote in real life for your countries party/president, do you vote for all of them? seriously ANet, what are you thinking?

3. Mini games? and what is the point of mini games in the candidate election? how on earth does a mini game help a candidate or how does it relate?

4. The Tiers? Nice job patching the trials and making it harder for the players that can’t play the game within the first hour of the new un-tested build. Even if the trials were hard from the beginning, why is this even here? what is the point of it?

5. The minis? OK so I put 10 hours and got the achievements for the candidates? you rewards me with two minis? How about something that I can actually use in game?

I can go on but this is not worth my time. Hopefully the next patch will remove any residue from the Cutthroat Politics in GW2 and I hope to never see it again.

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Posted by: eekzie.5640

eekzie.5640

1. Indeed, there’s not much of an addition to the game. But, two minigames that are a lot more advanced than the ones we’ve seen before. And a little defense mission.

2. It’s already made clear that it wasn’t supposed to be like real life. It’s a pirate’s election.

3. They’re hosting mini events to try and win votes. Just like anywhere else with voting, people are holding events you can participate in.

4. People ask for challenging content… they get it… can’t complete it and then they whine. Now, if your post had constructive feedback I would’ve said how there are indeed some flaws that are horrible, but you seem to just be on a rant.

5. You’re not entitled to anything. Should we get rewards for getting achievements in other places as well? Oh, I completed all of the Explorer achievements and I didn’t get anything boo-hoo.

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Posted by: nekodoken.5329

nekodoken.5329

For the original poster: Do you like GW2 at all? Based on your questions, I can’t understand how you’re still playing it. Content patches come every 2 weeks now, and all can’t be large. Some will be a minor progression in story, but the next one will be here so soon… Why the outrage?

1. I agree that information is not that sufficient. However the big content is really Zephyr Sanctum, and this is an extension of it (like: hey here’s a bit extra to do) while progressing the story line a little bit.

2. This ISN’T an ELECTION for a seat on the council. Ellen and Evon think that they will be given a seat (by vote of the council members themselves) if they can secure a trade contact with the Zephyrites. It is the Zephyrites that said they will only give the contract to the person that the PEOPLE support. Also, just because government elections don’t let you vote for multiple candidates (or vote more than once), there are lots of things in real life that do this (reality TV competition?).

3. Living story doesn’t mean that the ONLY content being rolled out is related to living story. They’ve rolled out lots of balances, bug fixes, new UI, new reward systems (ascended jewelry, guild commendations, laurels, achievement rewards), along with the living story. People have asked for mini games. They roll out mini games and tie some time-limited achievements to them so people will be encouraged to try them out. If they don’t like it, they don’t even have to do the achievements, as metas don’t require you to do every achievement (6 out of 10 this time, for example, for each meta).

4. If you don’t want the trials to be there at all, why do you play it? Aside from the story progression and new mini games above, this part is for people who are looking for a challenge in fighting (makes sense to scale in difficulty for this reason). The reward is rare Aetherized weapons (better drop when you do higher tier). This is just one aspect of the current content.

5. Minis are just ONE of the many types of rewards. I don’t understand what you mean by something you can use. You want a rare weapon? Do candidate trials for a drop; but then again it’s only a rare, so if you have exotics it wouldn’t be something you can use. So what if you wanted the weapons as a skin? Then that’s aesthetics (which is a HUGE part of GW2), but then so are minis, so what’s the problem?

So you are not enjoying these 2 weeks because you feel like you get nothing out of it and you think it’s boring. What do you play then? This patch has a small story, 2 new mini games, dungeon-esque trials, achievements lead you to do events in open world normal dungeons and fractals. What do you play and like in GW2 if none of this appeals to you? Rewards include achievement points, back item skins from the mini games, rare weapons from trial dungeon, minis from meta achievement. What do you want as rewards that none of this appeals to you?

But other people are enjoying the hell out of it. Not every update is going to please everyone, but asking to “remove any residue” so you never see it again? That is VERY odd. How does the existence of a story progression prohibit you from playing regular content you want to play?

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

Strejda Tom.6108

But other people are enjoying the hell out of it. Not every update is going to please everyone, but asking to “remove any residue” so you never see it again? That is VERY odd. How does the existence of a story progression prohibit you from playing regular content you want to play?

For this sir you deserve a cookie. I think that it is really normal that someone does not like some kind of added content. But I do not get why it should be deleted so people who enjoy it cannot play it anymore.

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Posted by: Zylonite.5913

Zylonite.5913

But other people are enjoying the hell out of it. Not every update is going to please everyone, but asking to “remove any residue” so you never see it again? That is VERY odd. How does the existence of a story progression prohibit you from playing regular content you want to play?

For this sir you deserve a cookie. I think that it is really normal that someone does not like some kind of added content. But I do not get why it should be deleted so people who enjoy it cannot play it anymore.

Well that is too bad then because the content will be inaccessible in a week or so….

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Posted by: Zylonite.5913

Zylonite.5913

For the original poster: Do you like GW2 at all?

I purchased the game on Feb. 18, 2013, 11:28 p.m. and already clocked over 600 hours and 4k achievement points. This is with a full time job and a family. So I hope this answers your question about me enjoying the game or not!

2. This ISN’T an ELECTION for a seat on the council. Ellen and Evon think that they will be given a seat (by vote of the council members themselves) if they can secure a trade contact with the Zephyrites. It is the Zephyrites that said they will only give the contract to the person that the PEOPLE support. Also, just because government elections don’t let you vote for multiple candidates (or vote more than once), there are lots of things in real life that do this (reality TV competition?).

Thanks for your explanation on point 2.

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Posted by: nekodoken.5329

nekodoken.5329

But other people are enjoying the hell out of it. Not every update is going to please everyone, but asking to “remove any residue” so you never see it again? That is VERY odd. How does the existence of a story progression prohibit you from playing regular content you want to play?

For this sir you deserve a cookie. I think that it is really normal that someone does not like some kind of added content. But I do not get why it should be deleted so people who enjoy it cannot play it anymore.

Well that is too bad then because the content will be inaccessible in a week or so….

I didn’t mean that I want this event to continue beyond 2 weeks. You said that you wish to remove any “residue” from cutthroat politics after the next patch. The story and events go away, but the “residue” will remain in the form of continued story about the Captains Council; the Southsun Survival mini game is going to stay (on a rotational schedule); and the Zephyrites will remain as part of the lore due to the trade contract, meaning Zephyr Sanctum will return at some point. I wondered how these things are going to negatively affect your enjoyment of the game.

And thank you for showing your clocked hours, but a lot of people play GW2 quite a lot and they feel that they’re forced to play content in order to keep up or get rewards. As a result they enjoy the game (and ANet) less and less. I really do hope you don’t lose interest in the game.

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Posted by: Healix.5819

Healix.5819

Even if the trials were hard from the beginning, why is this even here? what is the point of it?

It’s meant for competition. When they demoed it, they talked about people ranking each other. The problem is, they didn’t release leaderboards to go along with it, which would have been the first real PvE leaderboard.

When they “fixed” the trials, they should have reset the achievement.

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Posted by: awesomesauce.5980

awesomesauce.5980

I think the primary goal was to engage the players. Normally the Living Story update threads are full of complaints about RNG and grind achievements. This update had vigorous lore discussions about not only the two campaign characters but also the desired fractals. There was even discussions about who was better for LA. It’s not uncommon to have these kind of engaged discussions on the forums, but I feel as though they took place to a greater extent with this update.

Having said all that, I didn’t enjoy this chapter as much as others. I’m already engaged by the plot (even when I don’t like it) so I don’t need a fabricated conflict dividing the player base to create discussion or interest for me. It was also light on story content and real involvement in the world, I don’t feel like I did much this month. In many ways, the election theme took away from my experience in the game this month as I don’t enjoy “lore PvP”. Despite that, they certainly engaged the audience, the question is, is this really how you want people to be engaged?