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Posted by: Rooen.5317

Rooen.5317

Honestly I’m disgusted by how some of you are acting. And I know that doesn’t mean much coming from some random player but really? Between the floods on reddit, tumblr and twitter of horrible, sexiest, raciest and down right cruel and sick comments about the results only does one thing.

You guys are making fools out of yourself and giving GW2 a HORRIBLE name.
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This is horrible behavior from a group of of adults. If a videogame election has your panties in such a bunch that you need to react with such negativity and anger you REALLY need to take a hard look at your life. You make us all look like horrible, no life, rude, degenerates who stamp our feet when ever we don’t get our way. So basicly bratty children.

Now to clear up a few things, if Anet REALLY wanted Evon to win they would have made it so. And from what I recall that video only gives the opinion of one staff member while the other stayed silent on the issue. If they were dead set on Evon’s fract they would have never made it a vote to begin with.

Secondly you really think Anet is going to throw out a lore heavy run just because it didn’t win? To make it available on time they need to have been working on BOTH the runs and have them fleshed out if not nearly finished meaning the items, content, actions, layout, backgrounds, NPC’s and any voice acting is most likely complete for both. Or at least on it’s way. Chances are we will get Evon’s fract at some point. Maybe not this year, maybe it will be revamped and presented differently but that lore is there and it kinda needs to be given to us somehow. Maybe we get a whole dungeon run out of it. Story and exp included! You don’t know.

And on the level of you guys don’t know, those claiming Anet is being lazy and is just going to half kitten the reactor, I’m sorry I didn’t know you were on the developing team and knew just what the run was going to entail. Do you have clips, footage, or have you been through the fract to know first hand that it’s crap? No you don’t. You want it to be bad and hope it is so you have a point to all your whining and foot stomping because right now you don’t. It was a vote left up to the players and you lost. Get over it.

In a 50/50 chance someone had to lose. You should have known that going into it, but you set yourself up for disappointment if you invest yourself so greatly into a toss up. Kiel was ahead each time they did a mid way tally. Sure Evon could have pushed ahead in the end but looking at how the votes were going Evon was trailing, so you should have been prepared to lose…at a video game vote that doesn’t directly effect your life in any way shape or form that is of any real meaning.

And honestly guys, are any of you REALLY going to pay that much attention to this run? All the groups I’m in speed though everything no matter how lore heavy it is. Skipping cinematics, bosses, NPC dialogue and even leaving and re-enterting the fracts if people just don’t REALLY feel like doing that one. You’ll listen once get the general idea and speed though without knowing a thing about what’s going on.

And to drill this home for you, I was an Evon supporter. Though I’m excited to see the asura content and what could have happened in the reactor, (because remember we an get a way past when it happened or far future of the effects of the explsion) I was also excited for even more so for Evon’s, as a long time player for GW1. So this BS about Kiel voters not knowing or even caring is just that, BS.

But the point is there, your acting like children. Being HORRIBLE on map chat and shouting at Anet about a vote that was honestly 100% out of their hands once it was in place.

You guys REALLY want to get the run? Be adults, write e-mails and letters, start a petition or forum about it. Get people together calmly and ask Anet to add in the one you want too. Don’t threaten, scream and curse out other plays and developers because they are just going to roll their eyes and so ‘Well if this is how you act when you want something we will just never give players a say’ You’re ruining it for the rest of us who are being mature.

In short, grow up. Be adults. Stop with the slander, accusations and just rude behavior that’s above a 5 year old.

Rooen Dahlbeck | Asura | Elementalist
Lvl 50+ | Norther Shiverpeaks | Cook/Artif

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

Are you sure they are adults?

EDIT: If any of you were there for Runescape’s Evolution of Combat update announcement, you would find that this exact behavior existed during that time. There was a vote. There was alot of “I quit”ing. There was alot of website destruction. Thank god its to a lesser degree on these forums.

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Posted by: Okhu.7948

Okhu.7948

Did you stop and think, maybe I should report this guy instead of posting their name on the forums?

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

It was a bad choice anyway. Deadgiveaway I’m just saying

Pineapples

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Posted by: Eldrake.1543

Eldrake.1543

We all know that if Evon won, there would be a similar outrage and Kiel’s supporters would accuse Evon’s supporters of being furries and such.

I am not happy about these reactions, but it’s not like Kiel’s supporters are entirely innocent.

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Posted by: Junkfist.1760

Junkfist.1760

Welcome to Internet Politics.

ANET should’ve known what they were getting into.

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Posted by: Kirschwasser.3972

Kirschwasser.3972

Why not do both? Unless there are clear rules against posting in-game chats as examples of poor behavior from the community. In which case, shame on you, but I’m not immediately aware of any such rule.

I think crude and sexist behavior like that SHOULD be shamed and brought into the public. The fact that you’ve got more of a problem with them being revealed than their disgusting behavior is… bizarre.

In any case, I agree that the kittenstorm over this event is absurd, but I do think this was a terrible idea on Anet’s part, as well. In theory, a voting event should be fun… but this is a community that is often joked about regarding their inability to take even minor changes without whining as loudly as possible about it.

And I do feel sorry that people are going to miss out on the Abaddon fractal. Did I personally find it the more interesting choice? No. And I’ve stated on other threads the reason for that, but I still think it sucks that there were two compelling options and the other is stated to never happen.

There’s a little too much “Be here or this will never happen again” in this game.

Anyways, give it a few weeks, this storm should die down.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

Unless there are clear rules against posting in-game chats as examples of poor behavior from the community.

There are.

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Posted by: Kirschwasser.3972

Kirschwasser.3972

Unless there are clear rules against posting in-game chats as examples of poor behavior from the community.

There are.

Then I default back to “shame on you” for breaking the rules.

And still “very shame on them” for their disgusting sexist behavior.

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Posted by: Rooen.5317

Rooen.5317

Did you stop and think, maybe I should report this guy instead of posting their name on the forums?

I was not the one who found the screen it was a friend of mine who did indeed report them.

I wasn’t clear on the rule and if it needs to be taken down or the names blurred so be it I’m fine with that. Sorry about posting the names. Didn’t really mean to shame just one person.

Rooen Dahlbeck | Asura | Elementalist
Lvl 50+ | Norther Shiverpeaks | Cook/Artif

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Posted by: Okhu.7948

Okhu.7948

I think crude and sexist behavior like that SHOULD be shamed and brought into the public. The fact that you’ve got more of a problem with them being revealed than their disgusting behavior is… bizarre.

That isn’t a fact, that is an assumption you made.

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Posted by: Xehanort.7034

Xehanort.7034

Secondly you really think Anet is going to throw out a lore heavy run just because it didn’t win? To make it available on time they need to have been working on BOTH the runs and have them fleshed out if not nearly finished meaning the items, content, actions, layout, backgrounds, NPC’s and any voice acting is most likely complete for both. Or at least on it’s way. Chances are we will get Evon’s fract at some point. Maybe not this year, maybe it will be revamped and presented differently but that lore is there and it kinda needs to be given to us somehow. Maybe we get a whole dungeon run out of it. Story and exp included! You don’t know.

Except an anet employee explicitly said that they are NOT going to work on both fractals.

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Posted by: Kirschwasser.3972

Kirschwasser.3972

That isn’t a fact, that is an assumption you made.

The assumption I’ve made that you’ve got more of a problem with them being revealed than their disgusting behavior is… bizarre.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

And still “very shame on them” for their disgusting sexist behavior.

Yeah, that’s pretty disgraceful. I voted 300 times for Evon, but not because I’m male.

…or a furry.

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Posted by: Caledore.6271

Caledore.6271

It is very unfortunate how people are reacting with such childish behavior, particularly over a fictional election in a video game. Is it really a surprise that the gaming community has a negative reputation for sexism when you see things like this over such a trivial matter?

I was hoping GW2’s community was better than that, but I guess I was naive to think that.

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Posted by: Zalani.9827

Zalani.9827

After reading through different threads and posts(which most have been locked already), I believe this pic is necessary…
Anyways, they really should of done this differently or at least better… all this served to do was just to divide the community.
Honestly can’t wait for the next event, least it won’t have all this candidate drama tied to it.

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Posted by: KorKor.9452

KorKor.9452

After reading through different threads and posts(which most have been locked already), I believe this pic is necessary…
Anyways, good post Op. I agree with you on all of this over reaction that is going on.

Funny the moment I saw the results of the election I did this. Aka that was when it was announced with the rewards.

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Posted by: Zalani.9827

Zalani.9827

After reading through different threads and posts(which most have been locked already), I believe this pic is necessary…
Anyways, good post Op. I agree with you on all of this over reaction that is going on.

Funny the moment I saw the results of the election I did this. Aka that was when it was announced with the rewards.

Honestly I was doing it to lol, was expecting people to be over reacting.

Jadis Narnia-Sylvari Ranger of [EDGE]
Dragonbrand

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Posted by: Zalani.9827

Zalani.9827

After reading through different threads and posts(which most have been locked already), I believe this pic is necessary…
Anyways, good post Op. I agree with you on all of this over reaction that is going on.

Funny the moment I saw the results of the election I did this. Aka that was when it was announced with the rewards.

Honestly I was doing it to lol, was expecting people to be over reacting.

Mine was just more of the fact I knew who was going to win before it started which just disappointed me greatly. There never was a chance for the other candidate from the get go. Disappointment in this event is all I ever had.

That reason also, personally I wanted Evon to win but it was very obvious he wasn’t going to have that much of a chance. Didn’t help how they introduced him in the beginning either.

Jadis Narnia-Sylvari Ranger of [EDGE]
Dragonbrand

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Posted by: TehPwnerer.7215

TehPwnerer.7215

And throwing a long, hateful post in everyones faces is mature and civil?

Pretty much what he asked. This entire event has been a community dividing disaster.

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Regina Buenaobra

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If you see any abusive, threatening, racist, sexist, or any other type of in-game comment that is against the rules of conduct, please do report the people making those comments. Customer Support will investigate reports about these violations.

Please do not report abusive in-game chat on the forums; please go through Customer Support. Please do not post petition threads; petition threads are not allowed here.

Constructive and respectful feedback is definitely the way to go. We understand people are passionate and might feel strongly about the results, but there are ways to convey this feedback without being rude, inflammatory, or abusive.

Threats and abuse towards any community member, including our developers, are not welcome and this kind of behavior actually hurts your cause.

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Posted by: Skyeyes.4935

Skyeyes.4935

Wow, all this craziness over a fictional election. Some people must have real problms when it comes to actual voting in real life huh?

Or, more likely, the outcome of an in-game election must actually impact their lives MORE than real world things. /sigh.

I just ended up with a ton of these Support Tokens and plonked some in each box, with a bias on the Kiel side because I preferred her straight-up ‘not-a-crook’ character.

Do I care who won? Not so much. Will I enjoy whatever new content comes out of it. Yessir.

Now could all the Kiel-haters ask yourselves just HOW much the result of the election has truly runied your whole life… then take a deep breath, turn off the computer and go for a walk.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

Well said, Rooen. I’ve been biting back from saying what I really think about some of the things I’ve been seeing from the fanatical Evon supporters since the announcement. Personally, my internal inclination was that I would have been content with either victory, but to be frank without being overly rude – the behaviour of some of the Evon supporters both before and after the result makes me glad they lost.

Maybe it’s selection bias in play, but throughout the election it’s seemed to me that the Kiel supporters have been more laid-back in their attitudes (with the exceptions of a few that clearly had Separatist leanings rolls eyes), while the Evon supporters have been laying on the hate before and especially after the campaign. It wouldn’t surprise me, actually, that if the votes were tallied, it turns out that Kiel’s support came more from small amounts from multiple players and Evon’s came more from large contributions by a smaller number of players – Evon certainly seems to have bred much more fanaticism, and in some, a lack of respect for anyone who has a different view.

Personally, as I’ve maintained before and after, I think the fractals should have been a completely separate vote – it’s probably fair to say that the fractals and the LS consequences were the main issues once the discounts were revealed to be temporary. It’s a bit incongruous that they threw two unrelated issues together, especially since there aren’t obvious connections between either candidate and the fractals. (You can hypothesise motivations for each, but you could do so if they were flipped around too.)

At the bottom line, though: It’s done. The results are in. Stop giving yourselves a bad name with all the vitriol and sense of entitlement.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Kirschwasser.3972

Kirschwasser.3972

At the bottom line, though: It’s done. The results are in. Stop giving yourselves a bad name with all the vitriol and sense of entitlement.

You…

You’ve been to these forums before, right?

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

At the bottom line, though: It’s done. The results are in. Stop giving yourselves a bad name with all the vitriol and sense of entitlement.

You…

You’ve been to these forums before, right?

Hope springs eternal.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Meriem.3504

Meriem.3504

This is the gaming community if not society in general. Welcome to the hell you created! Look in the mirror if you want to find the problem.

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Posted by: Zackee.4671

Zackee.4671

And throwing a long, hateful post in everyones faces is mature and civil?

Pretty much what he asked. This entire event has been a community dividing disaster.

That’s true. I was just pointing out that the OP is contributing to the hatefest.

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Posted by: NightShadow.1429

NightShadow.1429

I personally hope that ANET doesn’t do an event like this again. Who really won through all of this? No one. What they managed to do was kitten off 48% of the player base that was supporting Evon while the ones supporting Kiel now get to hear about it. People are more mad at the fractals and the fact that this vote decided the Living Story for the next little while then anything else. Putting a decision like that into the hands of a blind vote just left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.

Also the whole thing with the Heralds announcing the win of Evon Gnashblade, to then get mail 4min later announcing Kiel as the winner, was poor taste, whether intentional or a bug. Like a kick in the balls to everyone who supported Evon.

“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster,
and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

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Posted by: Gummy.4278

Gummy.4278

Wow, all this craziness over a fictional election. Some people must have real problms when it comes to actual voting in real life huh?

Or, more likely, the outcome of an in-game election must actually impact their lives MORE than real world things. /sigh.

I just ended up with a ton of these Support Tokens and plonked some in each box, with a bias on the Kiel side because I preferred her straight-up ‘not-a-crook’ character.

Do I care who won? Not so much. Will I enjoy whatever new content comes out of it. Yessir.

Now could all the Kiel-haters ask yourselves just HOW much the result of the election has truly runied your whole life… then take a deep breath, turn off the computer and go for a walk.

You just don’t know….I basically lost my best friend over the last presidential election. What happened? Well his wife posted on Facebook that Everyone should go Vote and if you do not go Vote then You Don’t have a Right to say Anything after the Fact!

I replied “that is not how it works, I have the right to vote, but also the right to choose not to vote and I don’t loose my right to freedom of speech based on if I voted or not”
she said that if I did not vote, I did not in fact have no such rights.
I tried to explain that her son who was not old enough to vote during that election but shortly after which he would be, according to her could not go march or rally or post on FB anything in opposition, say if a law was passed that made bow hunting illegal, one of his things to do, since he had not actually participated in the election.

Well she had a &^$* fit and could not see that was the truth of the matter and well my friend and ton of her friends decides that they are gonna jump on me call me names and all kind of crap. These are all adults btw.

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Posted by: BilboBaggins.5620

BilboBaggins.5620

I voted for Evon. I’ve posted in several forum threads smear campaigns against Ellen. I’ve accused her of being in league with Abaddon and of being the real reason rng chests are in the game. I loved role-playing this out as if it were a real campaign. I’m also sad and a bit upset that Kormir II won the election, but this is a game. Some people are definitely going too far, especially in a game that has children playing (I know the age restriction in the eula, but we all know kids play these games).

Having said all that, the worse thing you can do is be a participant in spreading the exposure to these people. If it breaks a rule, report them and move on. Many others will do the same, and we’ll see less of it in chat. Don’t give a troll a larger audience, please.

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Because so many people have been unable to keep this thread on-topic (discussing inappropriate in-game responses to the results), we’re going to have to close this thread.

Thank you to the OP for suggesting constructive ways that people can approach the results and thank you to those who tried to keep the thread on course.

As mentioned by a few people in this thread, if you see any abusive, sexist, racist, or other types of inappropriate chat in the game (whether related to Cutthroat Politics or not), please report them so that Customer Support can take a look at those players and take action if appropriate.

Thank you.