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That means you Kiel supports, you voted that hussy in, deal with the consequences.

Yay 1.5 silver off of max distance teleports! Totes worth it! /sarcasm

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Well I am sorry I am doing thief stuff. I can do thief stuff as a thief, right?

Wow, people are really intense about this stuff. I personally put my 100+ votes to Ellen Kiel, why? Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with fractals, waypoints, or the rotation. Seriously, it was about putting someone good in office instead of being bought off by the typical money grubbing, out for his own good, politician that we always put in. If it would make him money Evon would burn down the whole of Lion’s Arch, lol. Ellen Kiel, always has the city at heart. #TeamKiel

Narcemus.1348:

Wow, people are really intense about this stuff. I personally put my 100+ votes to Ellen Kiel, why? Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with fractals, waypoints, or the rotation. Seriously, it was about putting someone good in office instead of being bought off by the typical money grubbing, out for his own good, politician that we always put in. If it would make him money Evon would burn down the whole of Lion’s Arch, lol. Ellen Kiel, always has the city at heart. #TeamKiel

You obviously didn’t read the lore behind Evon, how he brought trade, rather than bloodshed, but no, you’re using racial charr stereotypes and what not. Evon has business at heart, trying to flourish the city of Lions Arch, why burn down their biggest trade hub? Just goes to show how educated Kiel’s supporters were.

Sindustrial.1875:

Narcemus.1348:

Wow, people are really intense about this stuff. I personally put my 100+ votes to Ellen Kiel, why? Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with fractals, waypoints, or the rotation. Seriously, it was about putting someone good in office instead of being bought off by the typical money grubbing, out for his own good, politician that we always put in. If it would make him money Evon would burn down the whole of Lion’s Arch, lol. Ellen Kiel, always has the city at heart. #TeamKiel

You obviously didn’t read the lore behind Evon, how he brought trade, rather than bloodshed, but no, you’re using racial charr stereotypes and what not. Evon has business at heart, trying to flourish the city of Lions Arch, why burn down their biggest trade hub? Just goes to show how educated Kiel’s supporters were.

So basically, Kiel’s supporters are uneducated and racist. It’s sad to see that the majority of the population are racists.

people insulting each other over votes on a game…
whoever came up with the idea of this votething did a good job in dividing the playerbase and bring out the “best” in the community…

i tossed my voting tokens after i got the achievements that required a button to be active, thanks for the achievement points anet, not even caring about what the votes affected.

If there’s ‘nothing interesting there’, then the Living Story can focus on other problems rather than whatever shenanigans Evon might have come up with. There’s plenty out there, and I’m much more interested in the development of corrupt politician arcs in Kryta without potentially adding them in Lion’s Arch as well.

@Sindustrial: The background story you’re referencing is ambiguous. He might genuinely respect Lion’s Arch, or it might purely have been that he recognised that his legionnaire’s tactics would have got the entire warband killed.

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

It was never about that and people who voted on that note are morons. It was about the fractals and what character would have the most inventive and interesting living story down the road. We wouldn’t be reliving older lore Abaddon’s fall from grace was NEVER shown before and much isn’t actually known about it. It would be something new and amazing on an old theme we never got to see.

Kiel is just Trahearne as a character. A boring goody two shoes story to be had. There is nothing interesting there.

I just said it was about Fractals, and then you said it was never about that, then say it was about Fractals? What?

And yes, it is old lore. It does nothing to advance the current story of GW2. It is living in the past. The Reactor is current. It is a problem that is current. The investigation of it will advance the the lore of GW2. So why should we be living in the past instead of dealing with current issues?

And you still didn’t even address why Black Lion Keys are more important than cheaper waypoints.

Eldrake.1543:

Sindustrial.1875:

Narcemus.1348:

Wow, people are really intense about this stuff. I personally put my 100+ votes to Ellen Kiel, why? Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with fractals, waypoints, or the rotation. Seriously, it was about putting someone good in office instead of being bought off by the typical money grubbing, out for his own good, politician that we always put in. If it would make him money Evon would burn down the whole of Lion’s Arch, lol. Ellen Kiel, always has the city at heart. #TeamKiel

You obviously didn’t read the lore behind Evon, how he brought trade, rather than bloodshed, but no, you’re using racial charr stereotypes and what not. Evon has business at heart, trying to flourish the city of Lions Arch, why burn down their biggest trade hub? Just goes to show how educated Kiel’s supporters were.

So basically, Kiel’s supporters are uneducated and racist. It’s sad to see that the majority of the population are racists.

Which is funny because my main is a charr, lol. In fact, I’ve played my charr more than any other than a Sylvari. And truth be told I love their backstory, but here’s the catch.

1. He’s in it for the money. Whether or not he’s funding ash legion with it is speculative, but nonetheless that is where his heart is, not with the city of Lion’s Arch.

2. I do not believe he would burn down the city, but if it somehow provided him a boost to income, or as is speculated it was ordered by the ash legion, I do believe he would. His heart isn’t with the people, it is with coin. The only reason he did not follow his leader’s orders when it came to how to control Lion’s Arch was because of the fact that he is smart. He knew how to manipulate people and he went for it.

3. Also notable, not once did I bring up his race, so not sure how exactly that came across as racist, lol. But it doesn’t matter, because he lost so #KielWins

EDIT: I would also like to add that I am personally far more interested in the Fall of Abaddon fractal, but it’s okay peeps because I believe Colin stated that they may think about making the fractal anyways if rioters show up outside of their office demanding it :P

Eldrake.1543:

Sindustrial.1875:

Narcemus.1348:

Wow, people are really intense about this stuff. I personally put my 100+ votes to Ellen Kiel, why? Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with fractals, waypoints, or the rotation. Seriously, it was about putting someone good in office instead of being bought off by the typical money grubbing, out for his own good, politician that we always put in. If it would make him money Evon would burn down the whole of Lion’s Arch, lol. Ellen Kiel, always has the city at heart. #TeamKiel

You obviously didn’t read the lore behind Evon, how he brought trade, rather than bloodshed, but no, you’re using racial charr stereotypes and what not. Evon has business at heart, trying to flourish the city of Lions Arch, why burn down their biggest trade hub? Just goes to show how educated Kiel’s supporters were.

So basically, Kiel’s supporters are uneducated and racist. It’s sad to see that the majority of the population are racists.

The cow just needed to be shown his place. Cows to the farm! Humans on council!

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

ALL of it leads to the current events. Things would be massively different without Abaddon’s fall, the Dragons may not have awoken.

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

ALL of it leads to the current events. Things would be massively different without Abaddon’s fall, the Dragons may not have awoken.

But it isn’t current. That’s the thing. We are not replaying Abaddons fall to rewrite history. We are just playing out the memory of what already happened. There is nothing current about it.

It would basically be a dream sequence that you get to watch what happened all those centuries ago. You are not changing history to alter the future. You are dwelling in a past memory that will still be the same no matter what you do.

You are not changing the past. You are just witnessing what happened. Thus, dwelling in the past instead of dealing with current issues.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

ALL of it leads to the current events. Things would be massively different without Abaddon’s fall, the Dragons may not have awoken.

But it isn’t current. That’s the thing. We are not replaying Abaddons fall to rewrite history. We are just playing out the memory of what already happened. There is nothing current about it.

It would basically be a dream sequence that you get to watch what happened all those centuries ago. You are not changing history to alter the future. You are dwelling in a past memory that will still be the same no matter what you do.

You are not changing the past. You are just witnessing what happened. Thus, dwelling in the past instead of dealing with current issues.

Thaumanova is also in the past. More recent history, but it is still history.

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

ALL of it leads to the current events. Things would be massively different without Abaddon’s fall, the Dragons may not have awoken.

But it isn’t current. That’s the thing. We are not replaying Abaddons fall to rewrite history. We are just playing out the memory of what already happened. There is nothing current about it.

It would basically be a dream sequence that you get to watch what happened all those centuries ago. You are not changing history to alter the future. You are dwelling in a past memory that will still be the same no matter what you do.

You are not changing the past. You are just witnessing what happened. Thus, dwelling in the past instead of dealing with current issues.

Thaumanova is also in the past. More recent history, but it is still history.

Except Thaumanova is currently affecting the game now. It isn’t something that happened centuries ago.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Devildoc.6721:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

KorKor.9452:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

The consequences of cheaper waypoints? In comparison to what? Cheaper RNG keys to gamble away?

Explain to me how the consequences of voting for Kiel is bad compared to Gnashblade. Cause as I see it, it is way better. Gnashblade supported RNG gambling in the gem store. Kiel supported cheaper travel.

So yeah. I’ll gladly deal with the consequences.

Cheaper waypoints for 4 weeks ONLY! TOTALLY WORTH IGNORING THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE GAME STORY TO SAVE MAYBE 20s in 4 WEEKS!

l o l

And again. Please explain to me how a discount on Black Lion Keys is better?

And the long term game story? So re-living old lore that has no affect on the current game, is better than investigating current lore that is currently affecting the game now?

Yeah because we really need to dwell in the past instead of taking care of current problems…..

Abaddon’s death was followed very shortly by the dragons awakening. Try to claim that’s just coincidence.

Abaddon’s fall shaped over 1000 years of Tyrian history and continues to do so even after he’s dead.

Without Abaddon’s fall, imprisonment, and ultimate death:

- The Crystal Desert would have been a Sea this entire time
- The Gods would perhaps still live in Orr
- Abaddon wouldn’t have reached out to the Charr
- The Searing wouldn’t have happened as well as the Gates of Komalie being opened.
- Shiro wouldn’t have assassinated an emperor and froze the sea into Jade and petrified a forest
- The plague in Cantha wouldn’t have happened, and the Ministry of Purity wouldn’t have formed, meaning Cantha would have remained open to outside trade until Bubbles blocked the seas.
- The Cataclysm wouldn’t have happened, Orr would never have sank, killing all its people and then rising later giving Zhaitan a plethora of corpses to reanimate
- Palawa Joko never would have been released unto the world again and Elona would not be completely taken over by Zombies right now
- Kormir would not be a goddess.
- The White Mantle would not have risen to power, the current line of royalty in Kryta would not be the same
- The Ebon Vanguard would not have went far to the north of Ascalon
- Gwen wouldn’t have been kidnapped
- That means Jennah wouldn’t be queen, Logan may have never been born
- That means either Destiny’s Edge never would have been formed or whoever replaced Logan would have not fled, Snaff would be alive and Kralkatorrik perhaps dead.

Butterfly effects everywhere.

Don’t claim Abaddon has no effects on GW2.

And again. When did all that happen? In the PAST.

The fractal is about the past of what happened to Abaddon. It is not current. It has nothing to do with the current lore of GW2. It is about what happened in the past, even before GW1.

So again, why should we dwell in the past, instead of taking care of current issues that we are having right now? You seriously care about the past that much, that current problems we are facing are meaningless? It’s in the past. It is not a current issue we are facing now. All it would be is a flashback to something that already happened. So why is a simple flashback to the past more important than current issues we are dealing with?

ALL of it leads to the current events. Things would be massively different without Abaddon’s fall, the Dragons may not have awoken.

But it isn’t current. That’s the thing. We are not replaying Abaddons fall to rewrite history. We are just playing out the memory of what already happened. There is nothing current about it.

It would basically be a dream sequence that you get to watch what happened all those centuries ago. You are not changing history to alter the future. You are dwelling in a past memory that will still be the same no matter what you do.

You are not changing the past. You are just witnessing what happened. Thus, dwelling in the past instead of dealing with current issues.

Thaumanova is also in the past. More recent history, but it is still history.

Except Thaumanova is currently affecting the game now. It isn’t something that happened centuries ago.

Abaddon is still affecting the world through the butterfly effect.

Thaumanova spawns a few veteran mobs and a fire elemental once every half an hour. Yip.

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Abaddon is still affecting the world through the butterfly effect.

Thaumanova spawns a few veteran mobs and a fire elemental once every half an hour. Yip.

Except the Abaddon fractal is a memory that does absolutely nothing to the current lore. While the Thaumanova is a problem we are dealing with currently. So again, living in the present is better than living in the past.

The problems that are affecting us currently are what we should be worried about. We shouldn’t be investing our resources into a dream sequence so we can relive what already happened centuries ago. It’s the past. Nothing will change it. But we can change and deal with what is currently happening, like the Thaumanova.

Thaumanova already happened. The rest is cleanup, just like the Japan Nuclear fallout.