Guild Wars 2

So for me my whole choice lies in which of these dungeons will be the best. I want to vote based on permanent influence, and from what I understand, these dungeons are going to be all there is which falls into that category. Do I want Fall of Abaddon, or Thaumanova Reactor? I don’t know anything about either of what those dungeons will be like, except for that Abaddon is a god which we will kill in the fractals, and that seems awesome. So, so far, I’m for Evon.
Any more info about these dungeons at anyone’s disposal to share?

Wooden Potatoes just did a great video on what might be expected from them, though it focused more on Abaddon. Of course, no one really knows what sort of content the Fractals (yes, Fractals NOT dungeons) will actually contain so it’s anyone’s best guess at this point.

StriderShinryu.6923:

Wooden Potatoes just did a great video on what might be expected from them, though it focused more on Abaddon. Of course, no one really knows what sort of content the Fractals (yes, Fractals NOT dungeons) will actually contain so it’s anyone’s best guess at this point.

Right, fractals not dungeons, sorry. I’ll take a look at his video, thanks.

Think of them as movies: Fall of Abaddon is Wrath of the Titans and Reactor Meltdown is Event Horizon. Speculatively, in the former you’ll be a soldier fighting for the good gods against the minions of the bad god while the gods themselves slog it out while in the latter will see malfunctioning technology opening a rift through time and space that allows all kinds of crazy things to pour into our world.

After watching that video by WoodenPotatoes, I’m feeling really motivated right now to vote for Evon for Abaddon. I’ve never played GW1 so I don’t know much about the lore, but I think it’d be interesting to see how well building that fractal will be pulled off. I’d love to be involved with a fight against a god

LOL. I´m quite the opposite.
As much as I like Potato, he does like to talk himself into an almost frothing GW1 lore-frenzy.
That´s about 10 fractals worth of lore & plot in this latest vid, heh.

And as somebody who´s new to Tyria via GW2 only, I´m simply not that interested in god shenanigany GW1 nostalgia, which seems to be the main driving point for most pro-Abaddon here.
And even he notices that the constant fractal repetition may easily kill the most epic fractal.

I´m just more curios about the Asura and don´t trust that shifty Evon and what consequences his future role on the council would mean for the actual game lore.

Kiel and Thaumanova it is for me.

The question is: Which one with impact the game more outside the fractal?

I think that is the Thaumanova Reactor.

AnthonyOrdon Game Designer: I wonder what kinds of things would happen if you mixed the Mists with chaos energy…

I would personally say that both Fractals would be just as interesting and effect the world as much. Otherwise they would not put them against each other.

I don’t know why people think, that the reactor will be boring compared to abadoons fall.

Asura broke Space and TIME with it, and it might have a way bigger impact on the lore than we think. I doubt Anet would only give us the usual asuran experiment gone wrong gameplay, when they aswell give us the option of a god-fight. The reactor might have even impacted major parts of the past without us knowing it. I’d much rather explore unknown mysteries than, confirm old ones.

Or lets put it this way :

During the personal story of the asura, you have the option of the infinity ball, a device that is as big as a mobile phone, but was still able to create an alternate version of tyria, in which you conquered it with steam creatures. And your alternate version wanted to conquer our tyria aswell. If that little thing was able to make such big changes, an entire reactor could do all sorts of things. I wouldn’t even be suprised if the asura impacted the fall of abaddon aswell, or the mursaat, or the dragons. Man, there are many options to where this might go.

The Bookahs got my vote
#TeamKiel

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2

Personally, I don’t find the reactor interesting and if it gets the most votes I feel like it will be just a generic failed asuran experiment. On the other hand, there must be a reason for Kiel researching into it as a human herself. My speculation is that both candidates are looking for something and MAYBE both of those fractals could have connections to the bloodstone or some source of power.
Also, I think it doesn’t matter whoever you vote for because in the end it will be just like the personal story: you make a choice which doesn’t have any effect in the long run, you will end up with the same story as everyone else.

Onshidesigns.1069:

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2

You are however forgetting that both the Fractals are stuff that have ALREADY HAPPENED, so any effects would have already happened.

lordkrall.7241:

You are however forgetting that both the Fractals are stuff that have ALREADY HAPPENED, so any effects would have already happened.

It might be true, that both events have happened already , but we know what happened with abaddon.

Just to quote a Game Designer:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

It matters, but we all pretty much know exactly what happened at the Mouth of Torment.

Nobody knows what happened at Thaumanova…yet.

lordkrall.7241:

Onshidesigns.1069:

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2

You are however forgetting that both the Fractals are stuff that have ALREADY HAPPENED, so any effects would have already happened.

No, because their might be pockets of unstable time. Creating parallel realities for the Gods to enter.

For me this is really just a matter of content. The Fall of Abaddon would mean that content would need to be created for things from GW1. We may see the Gods and/or their avatars, and we may see Forgotten or Margonites. And if such content was to be created, we may see more of it in other areas of the game. And I really want to see a lot of these things from GW1 again. It’s like a giant nostalgia trip.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

For me this is really just a matter of content. The Fall of Abaddon would mean that content would need to be created for things from GW1. We may see the Gods and/or their avatars, and we may see Forgotten or Margonites. And if such content was to be created, we may see more of it in other areas of the game. And I really want to see a lot of these things from GW1 again. It’s like a giant nostalgia trip.

There are already quite a bit of humans around though, so Margonites wouldn’t really be anything new.

Depends entirely on the way the Margonites are portrayed. But regardless, we might get Forgotten and the Gods themselves. I’m all for more content from GW1.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Depends entirely on the way the Margonites are portrayed. But regardless, we might get Forgotten and the Gods themselves. I’m all for more content from GW1.

By the time of his Fall the Margonites were (as far as we know) regular humans, so portraying the any other way wouldn’t really make much sense.

ViciousVyne.2935:

During the personal story of the asura, you have the option of the infinity ball, a device that is as big as a mobile phone, but was still able to create an alternate version of tyria, in which you conquered it with steam creatures. And your alternate version wanted to conquer our tyria aswell. If that little thing was able to make such big changes, an entire reactor could do all sorts of things. I wouldn’t even be suprised if the asura impacted the fall of abaddon aswell, or the mursaat, or the dragons. Man, there are many options to where this might go.

The Bookahs got my vote
#TeamKiel

Still my favourite story step, hands down (‘and today, I defeated evil-me from an alternative future’).
Also, I’ve already defeated Abbadon (like, twice at least) – more Asura madness, please

Onshidesigns.1069:

lordkrall.7241:

Onshidesigns.1069:

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2

You are however forgetting that both the Fractals are stuff that have ALREADY HAPPENED, so any effects would have already happened.

No, because their might be pockets of unstable time. Creating parallel realities for the Gods to enter.

The Fractals are also things that have not yet happened. The crazed asuran one is a possible future for Rata Sum

blakkrskyrr.7413:

Onshidesigns.1069:

lordkrall.7241:

Onshidesigns.1069:

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2

You are however forgetting that both the Fractals are stuff that have ALREADY HAPPENED, so any effects would have already happened.

No, because their might be pockets of unstable time. Creating parallel realities for the Gods to enter.

The Fractals are also things that have not yet happened. The crazed asuran one is a possible future for Rata Sum

It’s confirmed that the Uncategorized Fractal is not a potential future of Rata Sum.

To get back to the topic, I’d prefer seeing the Thaumanova Reactor fractal, I just feel like a fractal is too short for such an important event like the Fall of Abbadon. The only reason I’m torn though is because I don’t want to see Kiel on the council.

Onshidesigns.1069:

If players pick the Thaumanova Reactor. That affects both Space and TIME. Then their would be a possibility the Fall of Abaddon would still come into being.

It also MAY allow the gods to come through some rip it time, to reappear it GW2.

Getting really really tired of this when they have already said the losing fractal will NOT be made. Now, there is always a possibility that the losing fractal may go on a ballot somewhere else in the LS or something, but that goes both ways and has no basis of actually happening, So, even if the asuran one messes with the space/time stuff, using “so they might make the other one cause the Kiel one breaks space/time” is just irritating.

Personally, as someone who didn’t play GW1 at all, I find myself not wanting the Abaddon Fractal. I actually feel I learned everything I feel I needed to know about the event from WoodenPotatoes’ video and I do feel that the concerns he raised are enough to make me not want any further explanation. First, the mysteries that do still exist about the fall of Abaddon are good ones to preserve. Knowing the details wouldn’t help anything. Second, the actual execution of such an epic event as a forced repetition storyless mini dungeon as we see in the rest of the Fractal system and given the constraints of the GW2 engine as a whole would render it a guaranteed disappointment.

That said, I don’t feel that the Reactor would be getting much better treatment but at least it’s likely to be an at least slightly smaller scale story.

Not sure if its been mentioned anywhere else but what if the choice impacts where we head to next which area opens up.

Fall of abaddon for the crystal desert or The reactor for the maguma jungle