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Posted by: Adam Chattaway.6418

Adam Chattaway.6418

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

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Posted by: Demeth.5816

Demeth.5816

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

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Posted by: Adam Chattaway.6418

Adam Chattaway.6418

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Really… i play 16 hours a day lol, every day im hardly casual.

The event does not have any logical approach or system in place apart from tying to stealth to de agro making class specific roles here OP or UP.

I like a challange but 100+ games and still unable to do it with my guild is too far, so i guess you are one of those ex wow players who down the hardest boss in 15 minuets ect but not all have your l33t skill bro.

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Posted by: Soronthar.7236

Soronthar.7236

I was kind of mad at this, then I realized that there are two separate achievements for tiers 1 &2 and 3&4. That is exactly how it should be: everybody can do 1 & 2, but it requires more effort/dedication to get 3 & 4. One for casuals, one for less-casuals/hardcore.

Now, having finished the achievements for the Kiel mini without getting tiers 3 & 4 I think this is perfect.

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Posted by: SpeedFiend.4521

SpeedFiend.4521

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

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Posted by: Adam Chattaway.6418

Adam Chattaway.6418

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

Grats at being one of the 1% that can do it, now go show ur kitten pic

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Posted by: SpeedFiend.4521

SpeedFiend.4521

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

Grats at being one of the 1% that can do it, now go show ur kitten pic

Has it occured to you that just because an achievement is in-game you’re not entitled to get it automatically? Cause the definition of an achievment is something you’ve achieved.

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Posted by: broin.3856

broin.3856

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Really… i play 16 hours a day lol, every day im hardly casual.

The event does not have any logical approach or system in place apart from tying to stealth to de agro making class specific roles here OP or UP.

I like a challange but 100+ games and still unable to do it with my guild is too far, so i guess you are one of those ex wow players who down the hardest boss in 15 minuets ect but not all have your l33t skill bro.

I was with Speed last night,we completed all 4 tiers on our first attempt using complex game mechanics such as LOS, dodging and running around like morons.I must say we had tons of fun and I can’t wait for more content like this!

You dumping 16 hours of your life(which is kinda unhealthy,you might want to get out more IMO) and still failing at events where slight amount of cooperation is required only proves that you are indeed a casual.If you are unable to refine your methods you will be stuck in this average category doing average ’chievements and never ascend to the ranks of those who can faceroll this stuff and have fun.

Lastly,yes we’re ex wow players,I’m not really sure why you attempt to use it as an insult?Could it be that it was too hardcore for you?

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Posted by: Adam Chattaway.6418

Adam Chattaway.6418

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

say that to the dailys…

Grats at being one of the 1% that can do it, now go show ur kitten pic

Has it occured to you that just because an achievement is in-game you’re not entitled to get it automatically? Cause the definition of an achievment is something you’ve achieved.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

I dare you to post a screen shot of you finishing it solo after he patch. Very few of us can. Go ahead and try to join the club. Until then stop your qqing about “skill”. You are just using the same old lines spouted off by nonskilled carebears who want to feel good about doing something that they think someone else can’t.

Only one aspect of this game is about true “skill”. I can do it solo post patch, but you know what? I’m not sitting here going “yay, keep it hard so no one else can get it”. Do you know why? Because I like a challenge, and once I’ve beaten said challenge I’m done with it. I don’t care one little bit if anyone else has to go through the same trouble I did. That isn’t a challenge, that is pure ego. What’s worse is that it’s ego by the most unskilled players in the game, yes the carebears.

You probably exploited along with most of these other people, cheating your way to a victory you didn’t earn. It’s also pretty stupid that these people didn’t exploit so now they have to face much harder content. They could have done it on easy mode, but for choosing not to they get locked out of an achievement.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

This was much easier to do solo than with a group. Given that the advertisements for this say “you should make sure to bring a strong party for tiers 3 and 4”, it really just misleads you.

Maybe if actually killing the mobs was a viable option and the plunderers didn’t all come from the same side, then going in with a party would be doable and also necessary, but that’s just not the case as it stands.

Hopefully, future mini-events will be designed better.

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Posted by: Zanshin.5379

Zanshin.5379

still unable to do it with my guild

There’s your mistake.
You thought that since you can enter with a group it is a group event. Well, it’s not.
The number of mobs spawning is the same solo or with a group BUT with a group the mobs become a lot stronger.
Do it solo.

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Posted by: Purgatory Fire.4057

Purgatory Fire.4057

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Did you read my mind or what? Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already.. And the game is actually ruined by these QQ’s on the forum.. People just don’t want to accept the fact that there are things which they are capable and there are also other things which they aren’t..

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Posted by: Demeth.5816

Demeth.5816

You dont have to clean the whole content, if you cant, you cant, gw2 was made for letting all the players doing everything, if you cant succeed this challenge, you can’t, that’s all, it doesnt matter. An achievement is for something you achieved ( as someone said previously), if you cant achieve it, it doesnt matter.Some players can, they will get the achievement so.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

You dont have to clean the whole content, if you cant, you cant, gw2 was made for letting all the players doing everything, if you cant succeed this challenge, you can’t, that’s all, it doesnt matter. An achievement is for something you achieved ( as someone said previously), if you cant achieve it, it doesnt matter.Some players can, they will get the achievement so.

The majority of those players exploited. These people trying to get it now are being punished by Anet for what others have done. In the end I guess it doesn’t matter. Just one more example of how lazy they are.

Did you read my mind or what? Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already.. And the game is actually ruined by these QQ’s on the forum.. People just don’t want to accept the fact that there are things which they are capable and there are also other things which they aren’t..

Same challenge for you. Solo T4, then talk. Just one SS with you saying at the end “I soloed t4 post patch”.

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Posted by: Zhavari.7190

Zhavari.7190

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

Just curious, how many non-Plunderers did your group kill?

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Posted by: SpeedFiend.4521

SpeedFiend.4521

Just curious, how many non-Plunderers did your group kill?

A handful, when it was neccessary.

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Lol. Took me 3 tries with my zerg warrior and I just camped at the back, using perhaps 3 differend skills.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

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For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

I dare you to post a screen shot of you finishing it solo after he patch. Very few of us can. Go ahead and try to join the club. Until then stop your qqing about “skill”. You are just using the same old lines spouted off by nonskilled carebears who want to feel good about doing something that they think someone else can’t.

Only one aspect of this game is about true “skill”. I can do it solo post patch, but you know what? I’m not sitting here going “yay, keep it hard so no one else can get it”. Do you know why? Because I like a challenge, and once I’ve beaten said challenge I’m done with it. I don’t care one little bit if anyone else has to go through the same trouble I did. That isn’t a challenge, that is pure ego. What’s worse is that it’s ego by the most unskilled players in the game, yes the carebears.

You probably exploited along with most of these other people, cheating your way to a victory you didn’t earn. It’s also pretty stupid that these people didn’t exploit so now they have to face much harder content. They could have done it on easy mode, but for choosing not to they get locked out of an achievement.

Sorry, all I read is, even though I have the skill for this I’m not part of the solution, I’m part of the problem.

I can manage T3 on my own, but I can’t do T4. I also don’t really want to throw together a group because the more people you have the harder it gets. So I probably won’t be able to finish this ever. And that’s fine by me. I know there are those who can. It just means I had to do a dungeon AND a fractal instead of one or the other. So that’s what I did. Let the hardcore have the hardcore death game. That’s what they want. Why are you trying to take it from them just because some other guy is whining about the fact that he isn’t hardcore enough to do it.

I’m not hardcore enough to do, I don’t have the patience and I probably don’t have the skill. TO BAD FOR ME. If I can’t do it I don’t deserve to. If others can then they very definately do, and they should be proud of it. Hell, I almost feel it should include a title, cause that’s what achievements and titles are actually for. Showing people that you did something absurdly difficult that they couldn’t do.

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Posted by: Demeth.5816

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Sorry, all I read is, even though I have the skill for this I’m not part of the solution, I’m part of the problem.
I can manage T3 on my own, but I can’t do T4. I also don’t really want to throw together a group because the more people you have the harder it gets. So I probably won’t be able to finish this ever. And that’s fine by me. I know there are those who can. It just means I had to do a dungeon AND a fractal instead of one or the other. So that’s what I did. Let the hardcore have the hardcore death game. That’s what they want. Why are you trying to take it from them just because some other guy is whining about the fact that he isn’t hardcore enough to do it.
I’m not hardcore enough to do, I don’t have the patience and I probably don’t have the skill. TO BAD FOR ME. If I can’t do it I don’t deserve to. If others can then they very definately do, and they should be proud of it. Hell, I almost feel it should include a title, cause that’s what achievements and titles are actually for. Showing people that you did something absurdly difficult that they couldn’t do.

Amen.

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Posted by: Meriem.3504

Meriem.3504

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

The main issue I believe is the fact there is a time limit on this content. It isn’t just hard content, it is hard do it in 2 weeks content. I play casual but I like hard stuff, I am glad there is harder stuff but the whole temporary hard content stuff has to go. Make it permanent stuff.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

Just to clarify:

The type of player you are (casual vs hardcore) does not relate to skill level.

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Posted by: eekzie.5640

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It isn’t really challenging. It’s more like: Lets throw in as many mobs as possible and give them crap tons of HP. See how that goes.

That’s why I liked the AR final boss fight a 1000x more.
That I call challenging.

This is just stack dps, kill plunderers and hope for decent spawns.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

Like the title says, this is ridiculous. We must have tried this over 100 times now, please nerf this even if just on the last day so we can get it.

I like a challenge but this is way too over the top from the amount of mobs and their HP.

Looks pretty doable to me from where I’m dead at.

The best part is that the image is completely censored… He doesn’t even want to show you what class he used. Looks like he only just made it too >_>

Anyways, what I did-

Take a glass cannon ranger with longbow/sword/warhorn setup. Take a bar full of CC’s ( muddy terrain, sylvari root skill, entangle, and I just pop quickening zephire in), use immobi pets.. I took spiders for ranged immobi, the wolves also work for KD’s. Obviously start by camping the spawn point.. Ignore the mortars with the grenadiers that spawn on them, they don’t hit you unless you are a long way away from them. Spike the plunderers down as they spawn. If you miss one, let it run and then get it on its way back and be sure not to over extend or you will pull excess mobs that you don’t want. If one gets close to finishing, knock it back with point blank shot and then immobi it. I have heard peopole also have had success solo with glass warrior with killshot and some other skills.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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I finished this and I find this challenging.)
At first try it looked undoable but after a few tries and after realising when exactly do the plunderers spawn it wasnt that hard.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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They messed up the scaling.

Solo I can kill a plunderer in 3-4 hits.

In a party, it takes ages.

But solo I’ll be overwhelmed by the veterans that keep popping in the last 30 seconds.

It’s really annoying reading all these “go complain elsewhere” after you see the videos of those who do it, and they are not doing it. They are doing all the can to get it completed without actually doing it.

They exploit every single thing. From interrupting grenadiers so they get stuck to massive berserker builds that should NOT be required for anything.

Then doing it solo seems to be easier, with the right build.

This is one of the reasons there should not be temporary content.

Permanent content can be fixed when its unreasonable.

With temporary, we get a wave of exploiters that get it done in the first days, and then players that can’t do it once fixed unless they get some special tricks that they may not have ready since they preferred other builds, or because they don’t have resources to quickly get that build.

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Posted by: Leaf.3156

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It’d be doable if you could actually interrupt the plunderers, but once they start their “Take treasure” or “Deliver treasure” animations, you could pull them from the Cliffs to Lion’s Arch and they’ll still continue as if nothing happened.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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It’d be doable if you could actually interrupt the plunderers, but once they start their “Take treasure” or “Deliver treasure” animations, you could pull them from the Cliffs to Lion’s Arch and they’ll still continue as if nothing happened.

That’s also really annoying. And if you push them too far way, they’ll teleport right to the loot piles instead going back to the start.

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Posted by: Unpredictability.4086

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I don’t care if anybody can or can’t complete it, and neither should anybody else. The event has wonky scaling and is unbeatable in the way it was designed to be done.

This is supposed to a horde style event, where you kill wave after wave. This is evidenced by the fact that Bronze/Silver/Gold depend on the total amount killed, not merely stopping plunderers. If the event was really about plunderers, then the reward level would be how much treasure you had left when time ran out instead. It’s also evidenced by the fact that NPCs fight and help out by putting out turrets. Even the area provides you with environmental weapons suited for the tasks at hand – chilling mine (to slow plunderers), grenades with large area control + knockback (good for zergs + plunderers), even the flamethrower’s auto attack hits multiple targets (perfect for zergs!) and comes with AoE knockback and blind! Candidate Trials is meant to be played at the back.

So when everybody who completes it has to rely on spawn camping, pure DPS, and disengagement, they are only proving that Candidate Trials is broken. All the things that you need to complete it go against the design of the area. I have also noticed a trend where everybody who has done it mentions luck (such as spawns not getting close or needing extreme timing to avoid them). And this is why bringing up proof (ie “post screenshots if you think you’re so good”) is completely irrelevant – if you play the lottery enough, eventually you will win. However to say the lottery is fair is ridiculous – there’s no skill involved, it’s only luck.

And to the people who say to complete it with less people/solo, well that goes against the design of GW2 – the manifesto was about flexibility, not “omg solo stack on the damage and then nuke!”. What about us who want to play with others and be a team player – we just get tossed out because the event scales too harshly!?

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Posted by: Direksone.3867

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I don’t care if anybody can or can’t complete it, and neither should anybody else. The event has wonky scaling and is unbeatable in the way it was designed to be done.

This is supposed to a horde style event, where you kill wave after wave. This is evidenced by the fact that Bronze/Silver/Gold depend on the total amount killed, not merely stopping plunderers. If the event was really about plunderers, then the reward level would be how much treasure you had left when time ran out instead.

This. My guild and I do well in every dungeon and fractal. Tho not everyone is geared/specced for the optimal DPS and such we have no problems overall. In here however we can barely take down 2 veterans (if even) before the next two spawn etc. Which is part of it: killing=higher medal. The health is simply too high.

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Posted by: Rammie.2843

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For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Did you read my mind or what? Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already.. And the game is actually ruined by these QQ’s on the forum.. People just don’t want to accept the fact that there are things which they are capable and there are also other things which they aren’t..

I am not a casual, but I find your comment elitist and ignorant. Also, casual doesn’t mean unskilled. I have seen plenty people calling themselves pro or experienced but were total failures. Quite a lot of them are actually.

I for one think casuals should be able to get most achievements, especially the story ones. T4 gets ridiculously hard, especially for anything larger than a duo. If T4 was required for the achievement and generally doable, but there was a 5th tier that didn’t reward any points, just slightly better loot… In this case the “casuals” would get the achievement and the “pros” could go on for bragging rights.

But how many “pros” would actually be able to make it when the encounter is working as intended? I’m pretty sure a whole lot of them would lose their bragging rights. Also, what makes it so painful for you to not mind others getting the achievements? It wouldn’t hurt your progress in any way. A high AP score doesn’t mean anything, you know that, right? It doesn’t measure skill in any way. The most it shows is time spent, and even that can be wonky if one focuses on just one or two aspects of the game.

And if this game is too casual… why are you still here? It is obviously the wrong game for you. Nobody at all will miss you. Go play a proper hardcore MMO, like EVE. But… the only reason you don’t is because you’ll be the bottom dog, rather than the top dog. Kinda sad, prefering to be king of the casuals rather than playing the game which suits you.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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The point is, the achievement lost its merit when people got it bugged.

You cannot keep it hard when it was easy.

Want to make a kittene? Make a new one.

This ons is already ruined.

You can’t make a temporary achievement harder-mid event.

It can stay the same, become easier after being fixed. If it’s going to become harder, then it must be something that stays.

Part of the game is learning. You can’t learn and get better at something that goes away.

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Posted by: Demeth.5816

Demeth.5816

For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Did you read my mind or what? Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already.. And the game is actually ruined by these QQ’s on the forum.. People just don’t want to accept the fact that there are things which they are capable and there are also other things which they aren’t..

I am not a casual, but I find your comment elitist and ignorant. Also, casual doesn’t mean unskilled. I have seen plenty people calling themselves pro or experienced but were total failures. Quite a lot of them are actually.

I for one think casuals should be able to get most achievements, especially the story ones. T4 gets ridiculously hard, especially for anything larger than a duo. If T4 was required for the achievement and generally doable, but there was a 5th tier that didn’t reward any points, just slightly better loot… In this case the “casuals” would get the achievement and the “pros” could go on for bragging rights.

But how many “pros” would actually be able to make it when the encounter is working as intended? I’m pretty sure a whole lot of them would lose their bragging rights. Also, what makes it so painful for you to not mind others getting the achievements? It wouldn’t hurt your progress in any way. A high AP score doesn’t mean anything, you know that, right? It doesn’t measure skill in any way. The most it shows is time spent, and even that can be wonky if one focuses on just one or two aspects of the game.

And if this game is too casual… why are you still here? It is obviously the wrong game for you. Nobody at all will miss you. Go play a proper hardcore MMO, like EVE. But… the only reason you don’t is because you’ll be the bottom dog, rather than the top dog. Kinda sad, prefering to be king of the casuals rather than playing the game which suits you.

Because he loves the game he is playing and dont want it to be ruined by 14yo kiddy who flames about how difficult the game is?

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Posted by: Adam Chattaway.6418

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For once, Anet didnt give the access of one content to the whole player base, For once we have difficulty, for once being skilled give you an advantage.

Please, do not start to complain, please just don’t, casuals have got content enough, do not take it from us, or this game will be ruined by casuals (or actually is).

Did you read my mind or what? Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already.. And the game is actually ruined by these QQ’s on the forum.. People just don’t want to accept the fact that there are things which they are capable and there are also other things which they aren’t..

I am not a casual, but I find your comment elitist and ignorant. Also, casual doesn’t mean unskilled. I have seen plenty people calling themselves pro or experienced but were total failures. Quite a lot of them are actually.

I for one think casuals should be able to get most achievements, especially the story ones. T4 gets ridiculously hard, especially for anything larger than a duo. If T4 was required for the achievement and generally doable, but there was a 5th tier that didn’t reward any points, just slightly better loot… In this case the “casuals” would get the achievement and the “pros” could go on for bragging rights.

But how many “pros” would actually be able to make it when the encounter is working as intended? I’m pretty sure a whole lot of them would lose their bragging rights. Also, what makes it so painful for you to not mind others getting the achievements? It wouldn’t hurt your progress in any way. A high AP score doesn’t mean anything, you know that, right? It doesn’t measure skill in any way. The most it shows is time spent, and even that can be wonky if one focuses on just one or two aspects of the game.

And if this game is too casual… why are you still here? It is obviously the wrong game for you. Nobody at all will miss you. Go play a proper hardcore MMO, like EVE. But… the only reason you don’t is because you’ll be the bottom dog, rather than the top dog. Kinda sad, prefering to be king of the casuals rather than playing the game which suits you.

Because he loves the game he is playing and dont want it to be ruined by 14yo kiddy who flames about how difficult the game is?

I’m 23 actually and i was not flaming, and tbh ive prob played games 10x more than you have in your entire life. Ive played ultima, mortal online, darkfall and eve online so dont think this game is for elitest because as the other guy said this is broken content that should be killed not avoided.

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

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I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

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Posted by: DaKenster.5801

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I might take you up on that offer liefbread, seeing as I cannot seem to do t4 solo.

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Posted by: Navzar.2938

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Anyways I think casuals have more than enough content already

…I am not a casual, but I find your comment elitist and ignorant…

…I for one think casuals should be able to get most achievements, especially the story ones. T4 gets ridiculously hard, especially for anything larger than a duo…

…It wouldn’t hurt your progress in any way. A high AP score doesn’t mean anything, you know that, right? It doesn’t measure skill in any way…

Some people enjoy hard content. If all content is for “casuals” (you’re also using it as unskilled), then no content is for said people because it’s too easy for them to enjoy. So having some optional hard content that isn’t friendly to less skilled players isn’t unreasonable by any means.

Why should most achievements be doable for everybody regardless of skill? You even said it yourself, that the not getting the achievements doesn’t hurt you in anyway, you can still complete the meta event without it, and you lose no story line. They just show that you did something harder. Which is as you said, bragging rights. (You can’t really do something for bragging rights if your only proof for doing it is your word.)

Also hardcore mmo =/= hard content. Hardcore in an mmo sense usually means loads of grinding.

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

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I might take you up on that offer liefbread, seeing as I cannot seem to do t4 solo.

I’ve helped 4 people just tonight!

Let me know!~

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

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I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

You might want to consider making a vid, would also help lots of people I think.
Since you did it many times, what char do you reccomend?

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Posted by: akamon.2769

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the main issue i have is that even though it was intended to be mega hard (though with tiers), it was bugged. so people were able to do it with “relative ease”. and speaking from experience, take it for what you will, pre-patch without triggering the bug (all 3 spawns) vs post-patch, post-patch’s difficulty was upped quite a bit.

so it was once perhaps attainable, now for many it seems close to being impossible. gives people the bitter feeling of “o i wish i had done it before they ‘fixed’ it” or “now that i’m done with this, i’m not coming back for another round”. which is where i feel the dismay may come from.

i think it’s fine that it’s meant to be only completed or Gold-ed by not many. there’s plenty of content for everyone. would have been more helpful for everyoen gauging what they can or cannot do with this patch if this had been made known from the beginning instead of halfway through the duration the content will be around, AFTER having made it “more difficult” mid-event. if people had known, or there was no “easy way out” to start with, then i feel there’d be a lot less complains.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

very decent of you. and good luck!
just curious, i’m asuming you’re doing it for.. fun, as well as a chance at weapon skins? any drops so far? how many aetherblades do you kill on average?

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

liefbread.9513

I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

You might want to consider making a vid, would also help lots of people I think.
Since you did it many times, what char do you reccomend?

I did make a vid actually! It’s floating around in a few other posts.

http://youtu.be/-cuVYN7TS9o

This is how I solo it, a few other people have had success using the same methods and builds, I would 100% recommend a thief or having a thief in group as scorpion wire is near essential.

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

liefbread.9513

I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

very decent of you. and good luck!
just curious, i’m asuming you’re doing it for.. fun, as well as a chance at weapon skins? any drops so far? how many aetherblades do you kill on average?

I’ve been enjoying helping people out/making new friends etc, it’s a lot more fun than farming it alone, I’ve gotten a couple weapon skin drops in 150~ runs. Solo I usually end up with a count around 35, with a partner/running someone 15-25

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

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Yeah you make it look really simple Thief is one profession neither me nor my gaming buddy has. Some nice spiking in the vid.

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Posted by: liefbread.9513

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Yeah you make it look really simple Thief is one profession neither me nor my gaming buddy has. Some nice spiking in the vid.

I’ve found a couple people EU side that can do it on a thief and have been having good success running some other people through it, and if you’re NA I’d be happy to help you through it myself.

Just hit me up tomorrow, for now, it’s 6am and I spend the past 4-5 hours running people through this so, bed time

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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Has it occurred to anyone that ‘bronze’ title doesn’t mean you beat it…

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