Guild Wars 2

I want to sum little things up.

Thaumanova Reactor is creating spatial anomalies across the world with unpredictable chaos energy.

What is doing FotM? Almost same thing with a little exception… Time travel. Time anomalies. The Mists energy.

What will happen if we try to recreate spatial anomaly inside time anomaly?

Something real, something bad.(A pair of asura experiments blended together, what would you expect?)

And I have proof of my theory:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/cutthroat/Thaumanova-Reactor-Explosion/first

This is real and this is in our hands.

And a vote for evon means opening a gateway for a god to escape his fate, or using his magic to effect the mists as well.

You forget or don’t really know how powerful Abbadon really was.

Acidicore.3264:

And a vote for evon means opening a gateway for a god to escape his fate, or using his magic to effect the mists as well.

You forget or don’t really know how powerful Abbadon really was.

Actually… not. FotM is recreating circumstances. Abaddon will never know it’s a fractal.

Shirogatsu.3150:

Acidicore.3264:

And a vote for evon means opening a gateway for a god to escape his fate, or using his magic to effect the mists as well.

You forget or don’t really know how powerful Abbadon really was.

Actually… not. FotM is recreating circumstances. Abaddon will never know it’s a fractal.

If the reactor can effect the mists, then technically so could any event that occurs within the fractal. Isolating one event saying this one can do it but the other’s cannot is bogus. Colin was hinting at a possible effect that could occur to entice players to vote for Kiel, he’s obviously biased towards her winning.

Chaos magics could interfere with how the mists operate causing all sorts of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, but Abbadon was a god, he gave Tyria the means to use magic. Manipulating a causality within the mists would be child’s play, even if he’s unaware.

Thaumanova Reactor as a fractal, could lead to unknow events that impact the whole game world.

Abaddon may be a good dungeon but that’s all it may ever be.

I say vote for Kiel because the Thaumanova Reactor may influence the game as a whole. If Anet wants to write it that way.

Abaddon can be made later.

Onshidesigns.1069:

Thaumanova Reactor as a fractal, could lead to unknown events that impact the whole game world.

Abaddon may be a good dungeon but that’s all it may ever be.

I say vote for Kiel because the Thaumanova Reactor may influence the game as a whole. If Anet wants to write it that way.

Abaddon can be made later.

I’m hoping said events lead to an invasion from the Steam Creatures in full force. They have such a lovely combination of Reapers from Mass Effect and Cybermen from Doctor Who, what’s not to love. Plus, they destroyed all of the dragons, fighting a foe that powerful, heck, with a steam punk’d elder dragon as one of their generals would be absolutely wicked.

Acidicore.3264:

If the reactor can effect the mists, then technically so could any event that occurs within the fractal. Isolating one event saying this one can do it but the other’s cannot is bogus. Colin was hinting at a possible effect that could occur to entice players to vote for Kiel, he’s obviously biased towards her winning.

Chaos magics could interfere with how the mists operate causing all sorts of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, but Abbadon was a god, he gave Tyria the means to use magic. Manipulating a causality within the mists would be child’s play, even if he’s unaware.

One thing is that this is all complete speculation. Nothing is actually known about what would happen. A big problem with your argument is that Abbadon is completely unaware (which you even admit to,) meaning that any “interaction” results created by FoA would be side effects, likely similar in nature to the Chaos magic possibilities offered by the reactor. But then, you never know what might happen.

DeShadowWolf.6854:

Acidicore.3264:

If the reactor can effect the mists, then technically so could any event that occurs within the fractal. Isolating one event saying this one can do it but the other’s cannot is bogus. Colin was hinting at a possible effect that could occur to entice players to vote for Kiel, he’s obviously biased towards her winning.

Chaos magics could interfere with how the mists operate causing all sorts of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, but Abbadon was a god, he gave Tyria the means to use magic. Manipulating a causality within the mists would be child’s play, even if he’s unaware.

One thing is that this is all complete speculation. Nothing is actually known about what would happen. A big problem with your argument is that Abbadon is completely unaware (which you even admit to,) meaning that any “interaction” results created by FoA would be side effects, likely similar in nature to the Chaos magic possibilities offered by the reactor. But then, you never know what might happen.

I’m aware of the speculation, my argument was based on how he’s applying a specific criteria to one event, but has no effect on the other, an example of how one thing that could effect the mists could also happen in an event here. I’ve made several posts where I state that the speculation is obnoxious, sadly I didn’t make it apparent here.

The whole purpose was the rebuff what Shirogatsu was proposing, sometimes fighting fire with fire works.

Colin is actually Pro-Gnashblade, it was Anthony Ordon (one of the game designers) who dropped the hint the OP refers to.

Your rebuff misses one key factor, Abbadon escaping his fate via the mists, even if `possible`, is not going to happen.

It would cheapen GW1, undo all the lore, and the players that care about the lore, not to mention the authors who’ve spent time writing official Guildwars fiction, wouldn’t like it. Also, the same gods who defeated him are going to be there in the fractal with him, do you really think they’d let him through?

If it was the Nightfall fall of Abbadon then it would be a whole different thing, you could make a Fractal that’s at just the right point that he could escape through and be thought dead, but it’s been confirmed its the pre-GW1 fall by Colin.

Thaumanova however has no issues of conflict regarding previous lore and offending long-term players. The story can be taken wherever they want, links closely to the current main storyline, and therefore it is far more likely to break out of Fractals into Living Story content.

That’s not to say the OP’s inference is correct, but unlike the ‘rebuff’ it could be.

DeShadowWolf.6854:

A big problem with your argument is that Abbadon is completely unaware

Hello? God of Secrets. Technically, this means he’s aware of things others are not aware of.

Kaz.5430:

Colin is actually Pro-Gnashblade, it was Anthony Ordon (one of the game designers) who dropped the hint the OP refers to.

Your rebuff misses one key factor, Abbadon escaping his fate via the mists, even if `possible`, is not going to happen.

It would cheapen GW1, undo all the lore, and the players that care about the lore, not to mention the authors who’ve spent time writing official Guildwars fiction, wouldn’t like it. Also, the same gods who defeated him are going to be there in the fractal with him, do you really think they’d let him through?

If it was the Nightfall fall of Abbadon then it would be a whole different thing, you could make a Fractal that’s at just the right point that he could escape through and be thought dead, but it’s been confirmed its the pre-GW1 fall by Colin.

Thaumanova however has no issues of conflict regarding previous lore and offending long-term players. The story can be taken wherever they want, links closely to the current main storyline, and therefore it is far more likely to break out of Fractals into Living Story content.

That’s not to say the OP’s inference is correct, but unlike the ‘rebuff’ it could be.

Yeah, my bad on the first note.

Second note, it was an example, not a definitive.

Third note, they could retcon any lore to fit their desires, or pull a paradox. Plenty of game do this, as well as shows and books. Not to say it will, but game lore is malleable, despite how hard everyone loves to cling to it. It entirely depends on how Anet decides to handle their lore, so far they’ve done a fine job of keeping continuity together so I doubt my example, but it WAS an example to begin with.

Fourth, I never stated that this would happen, it was an example, no need to be defensive over an example of what could occur.

Fifth, that’s why I’m more interested. However my vote is going to the characters, not their campaigns. The fractal and reduced costs is a lovely addition, but in overall terms I’m going for the individual I feel is best suited for captain’s council.

The author used a hypothetical situation that could arise in from the fractal, I gave a flimsy, but easily possible example of what could also happen. Time can be rewritten, however it won’t because of the drastic changes it would have on the overall impact of the world. No need to be extra critical on something this minuet, just an example to counterattack an example. We’re both fighting with strawmen here after all.

SpeedFiend.4521:

DeShadowWolf.6854:

A big problem with your argument is that Abbadon is completely unaware

Hello? God of Secrets. Technically, this means he’s aware of things others are not aware of.

We are using the word “aware” in completely different ways that I do not find compatible.

DeShadowWolf.6854:

SpeedFiend.4521:

DeShadowWolf.6854:

A big problem with your argument is that Abbadon is completely unaware

Hello? God of Secrets. Technically, this means he’s aware of things others are not aware of.

We are using the word “aware” in completely different ways that I do not find compatible.

I used it in the sense that he would “sense” the changes around him, obviously he failed to take advantage of the situation that arose if such an occurrence happened during the original fall of abbadon. God of secrets isn’t god of foresight Speedfiend. He didn’t see his own downfall well before he gave Tyria unrestricted use of magic.

Why do people keep assuming that the Fractals will actually change anything at all? There is nothing at all that points towards the fractal being able to influence the real world.

lordkrall.7241:

Why do people keep assuming that the Fractals will actually change anything at all? There is nothing at all that points towards the fractal being able to influence the real world.

It’s not, it’s speculation. What the original post, well posted is what could occur within the mists and because of that, could effect the over world.

Just not an entirely well constructed voter bid for evon.

Then again, anything that looks like that has potential to be catastrophic.

Acidicore.3264:

lordkrall.7241:

Why do people keep assuming that the Fractals will actually change anything at all? There is nothing at all that points towards the fractal being able to influence the real world.

It’s not, it’s speculation. What the original post, well posted is what could occur within the mists and because of that, could effect the over world.

Just not an entirely well constructed voter bid for evon.

Then again, anything that looks like that has potential to be catastrophic.

Anet hasn’t made the content yet. So we can influence the story by speculating. If the developers like the idea.

Onshidesigns.1069:

Acidicore.3264:

lordkrall.7241:

Why do people keep assuming that the Fractals will actually change anything at all? There is nothing at all that points towards the fractal being able to influence the real world.

It’s not, it’s speculation. What the original post, well posted is what could occur within the mists and because of that, could effect the over world.

Just not an entirely well constructed voter bid for evon.

Then again, anything that looks like that has potential to be catastrophic.

Anet hasn’t made the content yet. So we can influence the story by speculating. If the developers like the idea.

This is true, the elements are there, the image I linked is the reactor they were experimenting on, it’s also a skill point in the region, which is laughable considering how powerful it is, and they have light security around the thing. I gave an example that you would role play as member of the Order of Whispers (similar to the ascalon invasion as charr), going in to steal the reactor, but right place, bad timing, it’s blowing up in their face.

I don’t particularly enjoy speculating though, it leads to disappointment. I’ll be giddy if they can pull off something spectacular with whichever fractal gets chosen, but we won’t see the results till the end of the year unfortunately.

Abaddon is already from the mists, so mixing him with the mists is just mixing water with water, nothing unexpected will happen.
The hint at unexpected things happened was because your mixing two different things.

Navzar.2938:

Abaddon is already from the mists, so mixing him with the mists is just mixing water with water, nothing unexpected will happen.
The hint at unexpected things happened was because your mixing two different things.

Hm?
I am quite sure that the Gods are NOT from the Mist.