Guild Wars 2

First of all, again pvp achivements in pve events, stop it a-net, just as the keg brawl all the secondary pvp activities should be in their own section.
Second, cheating and hacks utterly destroying the point of dragon ball:
Teleport hackers and bots already got the ability spawn points allowing for all the abilities unlocked and with any regeneration food (if you eat it before you enter the arena) you are invincible…
Third, kittenty freaking gambling boxes, i got 5 of em just since i had some gems lying around and no, they still got kitten drop rate on weapon skins, stop it, either sell the tokens on gem store (like a good little company) or make it a 25%~50% drop rate on the gem boxes.
Last but not least, never ever make nodes stealable again, it was supposed to be a special thing GW2 has, now its just kitten ing everyone off with the dragon pinatas.

I agree with everything here. I bought 20 boxes and nothing. I’ve also never been treated so badly in game as I have with this update. If you find a dragon node you get cussed out if you don’t wait for everyone else to show up so that you can’t even get a single hit in. Just trying to hit a pinata also leads up to being told off. Node stealing was horrible. I’m pretty much disappointing with every part of this update. I have always loved this game, but I feel really let down with this “new” (renamed) content.

Agree to everything above.

“No node stealing” is one of the major selling points when GW2 was launched remember? Can’t believe Anet had forgotten it.

And the extreme high cost for the Holographic Dragon Wing Cover —- 100,000 pieces of Zhaitaffy? Are u kidding?

Fos.4185:

Agree to everything above.

“No node stealing” is one of the major selling points when GW2 was launched remember? Can’t believe Anet had forgotten it.

And the extreme high cost for the Holographic Dragon Wing Cover —- 100,000 pieces of Zhaitaffy? Are u kidding?

I found 112 Taffy in half an hour of killing them holograms… that’s something like 19 days of 24/7 grinding….

Along with the ludicrous RNG on skins (Didn’t even get the Jetpack from the molten bosses either!) i can’t see myself playing GW2 much longer, it’s turning into a grind gold buy from TP game.

I logged in, played in the event for 25 minutes, and logged out. Everything that I hate in other mmos is in this event. I can’t believe it. Agree on everything, OP. Also too many bugs and exploits.

I rarely if at all feel compelled to come on the forums, but seriously this event is not even close to entertaining. In fact I feel really irritated about it, especially the MOA race.
The MOA race; we cant even participate in the race, instead we stand at the finish line and wait for a random result. Seriously 50s? Its an obvious and massive money sink in a game people struggle to make money in the first place. I was lucky and broke even before I walked away from the race.

If the goal of GW2 is to make a children’s game and alienate the MMO gamers like myself that are interested in real challenges and solid content, you are succeeding.

Have to agree about the nodes. Unless you use portals, you can’t get to them and the majority of the time they’re gone before the teleport finishes.

Money making scheme disguised as an Event.

Moa Bets should be GW1 Rollerbeetle Racing style instead of a huge money sink

RNG Boxes and 3 Mini Pack, If you get this pack and the rare mini you have to spend another 500 gems for the full collection and that’s over 24 gold.

It’s all about the money and that’s exactly what I’ll never spend on this game.

Should have made the holograms take more punishment… like require 3 people to kill at the least…

Adacian.9752:

I rarely if at all feel compelled to come on the forums, but seriously this event is not even close to entertaining. In fact I feel really irritated about it, especially the MOA race.
The MOA race; we cant even participate in the race, instead we stand at the finish line and wait for a random result. Seriously 50s? Its an obvious and massive money sink in a game people struggle to make money in the first place. I was lucky and broke even before I walked away from the race.

If the goal of GW2 is to make a children’s game and alienate the MMO gamers like myself that are interested in real challenges and solid content, you are succeeding.

Well i cant really blame them with the moa race since the speedrun whores love their CoF farm, causing massive inflation if such money sinks dont exist, its more of a community problem (if people wouldnt burn their building if they nerfect CoF1 farm, i think that we would see less money sinks more fun little things).

Hitting nodes isn’t content as far as I’m concerned.
I run up, I hit F, I move on to the next one.
REAL engaging gameplay.

Completely agree.

Honestly, this is awful.

An achievement for winning a Moa race. Which is basically just an achievement for “I threw my money away until I got an achievement for it”.

The pinatas and the hologram nodes. Great. Now we get to dread the appearance of other players as we race towards an objective and hope they don’t get there first… a feeling that has been fantastically absent from Guild Wars until now.

Spending your time running from one dragon node to another only to find them disappearing before you get there is very very not fun.

This is the first update that has left a properly bad taste in my mouth. I even enjoyed (and still defend to this day!) the infamous karka event!

Hyung.6140:

This is the first update that has left a properly bad taste in my mouth. I even enjoyed (and still defend to this day!) the infamous karka event!

Honestly, to me the karka event was actually the worst since i wasnt one of the rare people that actually got to be there (like half of the population pre server got dumped missing out on precursors for 10-90 gold). True the rewards were fitting for what you did, but it kinda started the rng kitten, yeah mad king was the first to do it but the skins dropped like candy out of a open truck (and funny enough the candy like water during rain season).

I am sad.
For the first time I am disappointed in an update. And I heartily defended all of the living Story updates. The trailer made me so excited for the event, awesome music, pretty designs. The balance updates brought great stuff (targeting fix yay).
I immediately jumped in to take part.
Let’s draw a resume:
Holografic dragon: awesome
Lions Arch decoration: awesome…. but where is the great happy music to go along? That theme that I had stuck in my head for days? It’s in the login screen (yay) so it is ingame. Bug? Forgotten?
Dragonball: PvP game…. meh, whatever floats your boat. Some like it.
Moa racing: what… can’t do anything, expensive… let’s say has potential for improvements
pinatas: awww cute. and instanced….per character…glad I’m an alt-o-holic then. But until now I was under the opinion that pinatas usually contain more than one piece of candy?
dragon wings: woah neato…wait, the price is WHAT??? that’s a joke, right? dungeon monsters then better drop a ton of this stuff and it better stack much higher than 250
the holographs: The projector design is great, the monsters are ok, dragon minions make sense but I was on maps early. Since then I have learned to actively avoid people. Once a commander pops up on your map: just leave. On starter maps, the mobs will be onehitted and tagging is impossible. On higher maps you better still are faster than others. It’s… not fun.
Jade Weapons: Hm, RNG again. Promised higher drop chance, but tickets still not tradable so no Jade weapons for me, pity. At least the minis are tradable.
Gem Shop items: The RNG was put in, the Minis were forgotten. It probably was a mistake and they will be added soon.

So… I’m sad. Maybe I just had too high expectations, but all the festival offers to me right now is poking pinatas, one taffy at a time….

Andele.1306:

Adacian.9752:

I rarely if at all feel compelled to come on the forums, but seriously this event is not even close to entertaining. In fact I feel really irritated about it, especially the MOA race.
The MOA race; we cant even participate in the race, instead we stand at the finish line and wait for a random result. Seriously 50s? Its an obvious and massive money sink in a game people struggle to make money in the first place. I was lucky and broke even before I walked away from the race.

If the goal of GW2 is to make a children’s game and alienate the MMO gamers like myself that are interested in real challenges and solid content, you are succeeding.

Well i cant really blame them with the moa race since the speedrun whores love their CoF farm, causing massive inflation if such money sinks dont exist, its more of a community problem (if people wouldnt burn their building if they nerfect CoF1 farm, i think that we would see less money sinks more fun little things).

Seriously…. what does CoF speed farm have to do with this? I’m holding back sarcasm over this response in the name of civility , obviously you wouldn’t allow character abilities to influence the race.

How about making the Player the MOA and giving the PLAYER the abilities shown for each Moa and allowing the player to actually DO something in the game other than give away 50s to a vendor so that they can stand and wait for a random result….

I also hate that we have to compete with others regarding the piñatas. I don’t care if that raises the prices, I don’t want to fight over them. (No, they aren’t instanced. A guy beat one right in front of me and it disappeared)

Edit: Adacian – Kind of like the beetle races in gw1? I wouldn’t mind if it was another option, but as long it exists separately from the random generation. Don’t want people fixing races.

Zeivu.3615:

I also hate that we have to compete with others regarding the piñatas. I don’t care if that raises the prices, I don’t want to fight over them. (No, they aren’t instanced. A guy beat one right in front of me and it disappeared)

I’m not sure actually.
I once had someone beat me to it and saw it disappear. So it might also be node stealing.
However on the next one I waited for someone else to go before me and watched him get his and I could still open it. So either one could have been a bug (instant respawn).
Would be HORRIBLE if you had to compete with people over one lousy taffy…
Can someone test and confirm?

This has to be one of the most dissapointing events I’ve done so far in an MMO. The ENTIRE event is nothing more than a massive grind with a few gold sinks thrown in. And the fact that the spawns aren’t shared, something that this game has up to now been staunchly against, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. The insane exploits going on in Dragon Ball aren’t helping, either.

And another RNG chest. I have no problem with RNG cosmetics, but holy crap ANet how many of these things do you need to throw at us before you give us something else?! It just reeks of desperation.

Between things like this and the severe lack of new content, I’m thinking of taking my money elsewhere.

I think the level of grind in this event is appaling.

Even playing 24/7 for a month< I’d not make enough candies to get the wings at the current rate. its a joke.

And the quality is appalling. Dragonball unplayable due to food exploits, placeholders still appearing despite being labelled DELETE ME, do you have QA anet?

To be honest togetehr with appalling RNG failboxes I am pretty close to just quitting. Most of my goodwill has been eroded.

I was so excited about this even this morning until I actually logged in. It had none of the awesomeness of the Halloween or Wintersday events.

First, I saw Lion’s Arch reskinned. Okay, I thought, this looks pretty neat. Now, what is there to do? I go to the nearest NPC who tells me a few things, but is then cryptic about other things, so I have to ask every NPC about what there is to do, just so i have an idea of where to go.

Then I go to try a game of Dragon Ball. That was kind of fun. Nothing amazing. The reward for winning also sucked. One zhaitaffy… really? I remember getting more from the competitive events in previous holidays. Also, is zhaitaffy the only new thing? There are no new crafting components like the snowflakes or chattering skulls?

Then I look for pinatas. They keep getting bashed for I can get to them. What the kitten? Shouldn’t this be like the pumpkins or snowmen from before?

After attempting to find effigies, which are summarily destroyed before I can even TELEPORT to them, I gave up in frustration. How am I supposed to do anything? What events are there to really participate in? We have Dragon Ball, which was fine, but other than that there doesn’t really seem to be anything unique about this event. I don’t have the money to put into Moa Racing, nor do I see how that even fits into the Dragon Bash theme, so I don’t really consider that much of anything either.

Ultimately, this has been a pretty big disappointment. It has really started off with a whimper. It feels rushed, buggy, and just poorly thought out. Has anyone seen the ((DELETE ME!!!)) achievements? Stuff like that should not be allowed to make it past QA. Until this point I have been willing to give the benefit of the doubt to ANet, but I fear the quality of the game really is slipping.

I don’t know if we’ll see any change, but reading over the forums, it looks like NCSoft/Arenanet are spending a lot of their loyalty capital in this event. In other words, they may be trading relationships with their playerbase for gem money.

Here’s what I like about Dragon Bash:
1. Lion’s Arch looks great! Fantastic spectacle of a city makeover. Well done.
2. Dragon Coffers drop often. Even though 90% only drop more Zhaitaffy, it’s more fun to get to roll the dice more often. With the Southsun Supply Crates, the excitement wore off pretty quick after realizing how rare your chances of getting anything valuable were.
3. Dragon helm is available to everyone as part of a fun event.

Here’s what I don’t like:
1. Moa racing is non-interactive gambling that excludes non-savvy lower level players and newbies. It is not a game to be played. It is a slot machine. You only pull the handle, and it costs too much.
2. Holographic nodes create competition and bad blood between players. Unlike most of Guild Wars 2, I really really didn’t want to see anyone else during this event. Why? Because they could kill-steal and the setup of the event actively encourages them to. This kind of competition might have died down relatively quickly (like most events) except for the following:
a. Jade Dragon skins ONLY come from RNG drops available at these events and in the gem store.
b. The Dragon Wings only drop for those who farm the event constantly (I mean no-lifer constantly) for several weeks or spend a lot of gold (500-1000) on supplies at the TP. The 100,000 Zhaitaffy cost of the wings is truly ridiculous.
3. It’s fine with me if Jade skins only drop very rarely from non-gem-purchased coffers, but people are reporting about a 1/30 drop rate for these skins from Rich Coffers. The other drops they get from these purchased items are worth gold, but considerably less gold than the buyer might have got by buying gems directly. This amounts to another form of straight up, slot machine gambling. I don’t see a difference, even though the currency is virtual.

The things I like about Dragon Bash are pleasant and kind of cool. The things I don’t like appear to be pure, calculated, exploitive behavior on the part of the Developers and/or Producers and I actively hate their choices. I haven’t bought any RNG boxes in GW2 ever, but I actually do feel for all those who get baited by this kind of system into throwing their money away—because they ARE being baited. The responsibility for this kind of gambling theft rests BOTH with the gambler and the “casino” that preys on their hopes and excitements and weaknesses.

Overall, Dragon Bash is in VERY poor form, and seems more transparently so than any other event I’ve been part of in this or any other MMO. It breaks key things that I like about Guild Wars 2 and makes it feel like a game that caters primarily to greedy and elitist individuals, whether they be players or employees at ArenaNet/NCSOFT.

Adacian.9752:

Andele.1306:

Adacian.9752:

I rarely if at all feel compelled to come on the forums, but seriously this event is not even close to entertaining. In fact I feel really irritated about it, especially the MOA race.
The MOA race; we cant even participate in the race, instead we stand at the finish line and wait for a random result. Seriously 50s? Its an obvious and massive money sink in a game people struggle to make money in the first place. I was lucky and broke even before I walked away from the race.

If the goal of GW2 is to make a children’s game and alienate the MMO gamers like myself that are interested in real challenges and solid content, you are succeeding.

Well i cant really blame them with the moa race since the speedrun whores love their CoF farm, causing massive inflation if such money sinks dont exist, its more of a community problem (if people wouldnt burn their building if they nerfect CoF1 farm, i think that we would see less money sinks more fun little things).

Seriously…. what does CoF speed farm have to do with this? I’m holding back sarcasm over this response in the name of civility , obviously you wouldn’t allow character abilities to influence the race.

How about making the Player the MOA and giving the PLAYER the abilities shown for each Moa and allowing the player to actually DO something in the game other than give away 50s to a vendor so that they can stand and wait for a random result….

Gold inflation… CoF is kinda the main reason for it in GW2, so the gamble game they do on Dragon festival must be a fitting kind of gold skin and since we dont have a ecto based economy, its kinda a ton of gold that must be sank.
Yeah moa is boring, but the boxes, holo and pinatas are worse in the “respect for player base and out ideals” trade for cash thing…

If you get 10 out of the 14 achievements, you get the back wings cover. I couldn’t give a kitten about a single piece candy. (If they change it to be more rewarding, I wouldn’t complain)

“The Dragon Bash Experience meta-achievement will reward a set of Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings back item skin for players who have completed 10 out of the 14 total Dragon Bash achievements (Case Closed not included). "
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/2013-06-11

Meluna.1764:

Zeivu.3615:

I also hate that we have to compete with others regarding the piñatas. I don’t care if that raises the prices, I don’t want to fight over them. (No, they aren’t instanced. A guy beat one right in front of me and it disappeared)

I’m not sure actually.
I once had someone beat me to it and saw it disappear. So it might also be node stealing.
However on the next one I waited for someone else to go before me and watched him get his and I could still open it. So either one could have been a bug (instant respawn).
Would be HORRIBLE if you had to compete with people over one lousy taffy…
Can someone test and confirm?

I haven’t posted on the forums since last fall because I’ve had no complaints of this caliber since I started playing…

but the RNG has got to STOP.

I’m not even remotely interested in the moa races because of how expensive they are. I thought the holographic dragon wings seemed pretty cool but the amount of grinding you have to do to get them doesn’t make them even remotely worth it to me… and then there’s the weapon skins.

I will admit I actually like the weapon skins a lot and find them rather awesome-looking but…

So far you can only get a ticket for a weapon skin as a random drop from the Dragon Coffers… But if you pay money for a RICH Dragon Coffer your chances are improved… but it’s still a RNG which means that it all comes down to luck, or a chance and THAT is nothing more than a scheme to make more money off the players. there are multiple ways to get Coffers but all of them involve grinding if you even want a remote chance at getting a weapon ticket. This is appalling. I would happily spend the money if it meant I had a guarantee that I would get a weapon skin ticket from the Rich Coffers but that’s a random chance too which makes it a toilet in which one flushes money.

In Super Adventure Box we had to grind bobbles to get weapon skins but at least we knew we were going to get them which made it all worth it to me. Getting the weapons in the Dragon Bash, however, is a massive waste of time and money to anyone involved and I think Anet needs to be ashamed of themselves.

My point being, I am not spending a dime on this festival and I refuse to grind the candy 1: because it’s the least rewarding amount of grinding in anything ever and 2: because the item (the ONE item) you get for it is mediocre at best.

PAX.4160:

I don’t know if we’ll see any change, but reading over the forums, it looks like NCSoft/Arenanet are spending a lot of their loyalty capital in this event. In other words, they may be trading relationships with their playerbase for gem money.

Indeed, and this is a REALLY bad time to do so, what with Rift going F2P tomorrow, and Archeage, EQnext, and ESO on the horizon.

Now is the time to convince people to stay, ANet, not start ticking off your fanbase. You are capable of more than this.

And you know there is also wildstar coming.

Personally I have my hopes penned first on EQnext (because planetside 2 is my favourite mmo of all time) and then wildstar after that.

ESO wasn’t impressive… wasn’t horrible like neverwinter but it wasn’t impressive.

unknowable.8470:

And you know there is also wildstar coming.

Personally I have my hopes penned first on EQnext (because planetside 2 is my favourite mmo of all time) and then wildstar after that.

ESO wasn’t impressive… wasn’t horrible like neverwinter but it wasn’t impressive.

I can see ESO flopping (Not that i wanted it too) especially seeing as it’ll be a subscription based mmo…

Completely agree.

Every update this game has launched after the last year Halloween event feels like a punch to the balls and a dirty way to try to make me spend money on the gem store.

Now one lame patch to a kittenty patch to horrible patch after another each getting worse and worse I realized why I shamelessly gave Blizzard money every month in subs and bought most of the crap they sent my way. Not only was it a good deal for both sides “They got my cash I got something in game” but the quality of content I received back was in between good and great.

Now this whole “GIMME MUNY 4 CHANCE TO GET SUMETING IN BOXES” may appeal 5 years olds and Koreans but for hard working people and hard core gamers this isn’t the case. Secondly every patch lack any sort of real content, all we getting is a new Lion’s arch look for a few days, a few chives that usually involve the same “play this lame kitten exploitable mini game we made out of Keg brawl.” Talk to a bunch of Npc no one gives a kitten about “oh they say like 1 line that no probably reads” and farm candy, candy, unnamed Christmas crap or whatever.

Gw2 had 2 things going for them in the Market, WvW and their Ftp format, most mmos are going free to play and every day WvW turns into a worse experience.

If you really want the stuff off the gem store without spending money, FARM GOLD. I really do not get how people can sit there and complain about stuff on the gem store when you can get gems for gold.

Half of this thread is complaining about RNG boxes which can be bought with gold to gem transfers…

I am a sad kitten.

I’m afraid GW2 really isn’t what I’m looking for. All the PvE updates since New Year have been fluff. Nothing to really get your teeth into. Fluff fluff fluff.

Sorry guys, I had so much hope for GW2.. but I’m bored now. So sad.

Mark.

unknowable.8470:

And you know there is also wildstar coming.

Personally I have my hopes penned first on EQnext (because planetside 2 is my favourite mmo of all time) and then wildstar after that.

ESO wasn’t impressive… wasn’t horrible like neverwinter but it wasn’t impressive.

I haven’t seen an impressive MMO in the last 6 yrs. At first I thought gw2 was going to be the one. However as we move down the road with the way things are going right now I certainly don’t see it.
I do not see myself playing GW2 for 2 years like GW1 or for 4+ years like I did wow. I don’t know about ESO, but I will check it out when its released.

You know, ANet, when threads on your official forums get derailed into discussions about other games… it’s time to re-evaluate your business strategy.

Why would I want to spend my gaming time farming gold?

There seems to be a portion of the community that have piles of gold. Most of my friends who play have <30g. If you’re a casual player who wants to say get the tier 3 race armor, that’s a sizable gold sink right there. I’ve been playing since beta and still don’t have a full set.

Maybe anet sees these rng boxes as a gold sink as well to pull some gold out of the economy. As a ‘lower middle class’ in game player, I would just like the opportunity to invest what little gold I have in what I want, not a small chance at what I want.

Some suggestions:
1) Make a single ticket a reward for completing most of the content achievements. The wings are nice, I imagine a lot of folks would prefer a ticket. That way your players have an inclination to complete the content you made and not farm or play virtual roulette
2) Same thing for a specific event like your fireworks show(again, a helm set it nice but maybe give us the option)
3) Gem store ticket purchase, make it the same price as the flame and frost skins. It’s more expensive than a box. If someone wants to gamble on a chance for a cheaper ticket, by all means. But give your players who refuse to play your gamble game a way to get the skins they want.

I bought 3 flame and frost skins with cash and have bought other things with cash because I wanted to support your game. I’m unwilling to play your rng game. I imagine every update, there’s a portion of your players that would love to buy a skin. Why is letting them such a crazy business proposal?

The issues with this event is apparent and numerous. However I think the most egregious is the fact they introduced an event that has caused our fellow players to act like they were playing in WoW or EQ.

The one thing I love about GW is the fact there is no node-stealing or kill-stealing. Everyone worked together, and there was harmony. In this, what I hope is a mistake, letting the holograms, and effigies be unique to the area, not the player, is allowing a lot of bad blood to be generated, not only at Anet, but also between players, and this is a sorrowful thing.

Just thought I’d give holographic minions another chance. Ported out to a random zone (Diessa, cost a few silver). Saw one on the map, ported to it (another silver). Ran most of the way there. As I arrive the node disappears as someone else killed it.

Yay, I spent five silver for absolutely nothing! Time to port and try again.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea?

Lastly, whoever spread the rumour before the event that Jade Weapon Tickets had a more reasonable drop chance than previous weapon tickets must have been crazy. None from over 300 coffers now (mercifully not rich coffers, but still!).

Hyung.6140:

Just thought I’d give holographic minions another chance. Ported out to a random zone (Diessa, cost a few silver). Saw one on the map, ported to it (another silver). Ran most of the way there. As I arrive the node disappears as someone else killed it.

Yay, I spent five silver for absolutely nothing! Time to port and try again.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea?

Lastly, whoever spread the rumour before the event that Jade Weapon Tickets had a more reasonable drop chance than previous weapon tickets must have been crazy. None from over 300 coffers now (mercifully not rich coffers, but still!).

160~ normal coffers here, 3 pets only… (rest taffy garbage)all the same pet too >_>

Animok.2789:

Why would I want to spend my gaming time farming gold?

There seems to be a portion of the community that have piles of gold. Most of my friends who play have <30g. If you’re a casual player who wants to say get the tier 3 race armor, that’s a sizable gold sink right there. I’ve been playing since beta and still don’t have a full set.

…. I don’t know… maybe because it is the currency for the game? I don’t have much gold myself, nor do I have a legendary, tier 3 armor skins, or a commander tag, but asking for handouts because your too lazy to farm for it is stupid.

These events should be a way to bring players back into the game, reward them for ordinary game play, build good will and make people happy by providing a fun experience.

Instead, we get another major disappointment and more proof that 2013 Arenanet is nothing like pre-launch Arenanet.

Grind, grind, grind. Annoyance and frustration. Crass cash shop policies driven by a strategy of fleecing people with RNG, rather than offering quality items people will want to buy at reasonable prices. Now, we have node stealing on top of it all, just to make it even more impossible to get rewards from game play that they really want to you spend $100 on trying to get from RNG lotto chests!

I love this game, but I’m coming to loathe ANet, which is something I never, ever imagined I would find myself saying. Sad, sad day.

I hated the idea of RNG to get weapon skins. I have bought gems to get Southsun Cove chests, but didn’t get a weapon ticket. I have bought gems to get Dragon coffers, but didn’t get a weapon ticket. I missed the previous Living Story to get a cool weapon skin, and I think I’m going to miss getting another cool dragon skin weapon.

I play casually, and I also do farm for the chests to try my luck if the gem store fails me. I farmed alot during Southsun Cove and still got less than 10 chests. Needless to say, 10 chests isn’t enough to gamble for a weapon ticket.

I agree with the majority, it will be so much better selling the skins directly. I would have willingly bought more than 1 skin, I would be a very happy player, and I would patronise the gem store for more weapon skins in future. Unfortunately, unlucky people like me would be left disappointed again for another event…

Bash.7291:

…. I don’t know… maybe because it is the currency for the game? I don’t have much gold myself, nor do I have a legendary, tier 3 armor skins, or a commander tag, but asking for handouts because your too lazy to farm for it is stupid.

They have set a standard of providing rewards for completing achievements (fused gloves, wings, southsun back, etc). Asking for an option isn’t a handout, it’s asking for an option.

Being lazy is not the only reason someone might not want to spend their game time farming.

It’s a more sensible path to acquiring items then random chance. It encourages the player to spend time completing the content anet spent money producing.

What we currently have is Player A spends y gems/time and gets a ticket. Player B spends more gems/time or equal time and does not. Player B doesn’t see a return on their game game resources, Player A does. No skill is involved, no completion of content required. These aren’t trophies of defeating some epic encounter. Just rolling dice.

Providing more paths to acquire a skin isn’t diminishing the accomplishment of anyone else.

Bash.7291:

Animok.2789:

Why would I want to spend my gaming time farming gold?

There seems to be a portion of the community that have piles of gold. Most of my friends who play have <30g. If you’re a casual player who wants to say get the tier 3 race armor, that’s a sizable gold sink right there. I’ve been playing since beta and still don’t have a full set.

…. I don’t know… maybe because it is the currency for the game? I don’t have much gold myself, nor do I have a legendary, tier 3 armor skins, or a commander tag, but asking for handouts because your too lazy to farm for it is stupid.

I think you go that wrong. Problem he is stating is the fact that Most well made MMOs reward players for doing what they like and setting real tangible goals for them. Take WoW for example, you enjoy pvp you get pvp only mounts and PvP tier gear, Like Pve? Climb your way through Dungeons > heroics > Raids, achievements whores could get special mounts for their efforts and everyone happy.

Anet’s design = You farm CoF path 1 the world is yours.

WvW = You get badges in a rather random way for killing people, turn badges into generic armor, super generic armor skins or a legendary ingredient…oh you still need to farm these badges + GOLD, meaning the existence of said badges is futile.

Spvp = You get skins by progressing through ranks SLOWWWWLY. You might think ok I get dungeons skins and all that, sure you do but you can only use them in the mist thus making them useless as pvp players tend not to give a kitten about their looks.

Dungeon runners = Go run CoF path 1 since finding groups for anything else is nearly impossible…not to mention harder and less rewarding than CoF p.1.

If arena net added real value behind gems such as Race change, unique skins like the flame and frost ones or other services then I would be happy, I have spent money in the gem store sure, but only cause I felt like there was a tangible reward behind my investment, mostly into transmutation stones and the mentioned weapon skins. If they implemented real content and races changes then I would surely throw more money at them, but since they only implement recycled stuff, studly hard to farm and unrewarding stuff and no real services other than server transfer and a bunch of gambling boxes I have no interest on giving em money and further more barely any interest in playing the game at all.