Guild Wars 2

+1 especially the part about the RNG boxes. Great job!

+1

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Yeah, I think this is their most successful event patch yet. I’m proud that they have definitely learnt from the past. Maybe i’ll reward them with some gem purchases.

Lafiel.9372:

Yeah, I think this is their most successful event patch yet. I’m proud that they have definitely learnt from the past. Maybe i’ll reward them with some gem purchases.

Exactly. They are doing things really great this time around and my guildmates and I really hope they continue down this path.

Very pleased

Moa racing is awesome, please continue to add more optional casino style mini games.

Here here! I love the patch! Great job anet, keep it going! <3

Peetee.9406:

Very pleased

Moa racing is awesome, please continue to add more optional casino style mini games.

Tried that a few times and didn’t like it. Too much risk for not enough reward IMO. But I do like that it doesn’t count towards the achievement, so that’s nice.

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F, betting 50s on a virtual race that I have zero control over, eating 250 pieces of candy, activating holograms with mobs killed in 1 hit, introducing a drastic change that caused one item’s price to crash in a matter of minutes and only being able to achieve the newest rewards via farming, luck, or buying with gold isn’t exactly my idea of a good patch so far. It has already gotten old.

I’m just curious, how do people find any of these activities fun, challenging and rewarding? Doesn’t all this grinding and farming bore you out of your mind?

With that said, I am having fun with the Dragon Bash if the groups aren’t filled with AFKers (seems to always be at least one). Let’s hope that the upcoming additions do indeed have more “real” fun content, or it’s going to be a long stretch to the next new update/event.

I absolutely love this patch! Like I loved Halloween one

Yes, thanks so much for the minis anet, omg i was stunned when I saw your in game mail. I appreciate your appreciation! <3 <3 <3

Was gonna argue some minor points you forgot to mention, but whatever.
This new rng box method is better than old ones.

Still looking for more “fun” activities(other than spamming button) that encourage group of players to participate.

The dust fix doesn’t solve the end-game farming problem.

Mkalafut.1273:

The fact that you made two types of RNG boxes. Coffers and Rich Coffers. In the past, we’ve all hated the fact that the “cool stuff” was locked to cash shop RNG boxes. We love that you can now get just about everything by playing the game and spending time and not being FORCED to spend real money. Tons of us are college students, we appreciate this.

So you were one of the few people that got a ticket on 100-250 coffers, great!
You should know though that people have opened 4000+ Coffers without getting a ticket. The RNG is insane, and imo the way we acquired SAB-Weapons were much better. There should at least be a way that does not involve RNG, because I gave up getting the weapons when i heard the Rich Coffers did not guarantee a ticket.

Edit:
I didn’t hesitate buying Brahams Shield for real money, but spending money on RNG? Nice try Anet, not going to happen!

KrisHQ.4719:

Mkalafut.1273:

The fact that you made two types of RNG boxes. Coffers and Rich Coffers. In the past, we’ve all hated the fact that the “cool stuff” was locked to cash shop RNG boxes. We love that you can now get just about everything by playing the game and spending time and not being FORCED to spend real money. Tons of us are college students, we appreciate this.

So you were one of the few people that got a ticket on 100-250 coffers, great!
You should know though that people have opened 4000+ Coffers without getting a ticket. The RNG is insane, and imo the way we acquired SAB-Weapons were much better. There should at least be a way that does not involve RNG, because I gave up getting the weapons when i heard the Rich Coffers did not guarantee a ticket.

Edit:
I didn’t hesitate buying Brahams Shield for real money, but spending money on RNG? Nice try Anet, not going to happen!

I like how that’s all you took from my post lol. I got lucky, a friend of mine who hasn’t played in months logged in, bought 30 boxes and got 3 weapon skins. Compared to the past where you could only get these items by buying gems and hoping for RNG, this is an improvement. That’s the point of what I said.

Ping.5739:

Was gonna argue some minor points you forgot to mention, but whatever.
This new rng box method is better than old ones.

Still looking for more “fun” activities(other than spamming button) that encourage group of players to participate.

The dust fix doesn’t solve the end-game farming problem.

If you read my post and find the post on these forums that confirms it, the dust solution is something of a band-aid that is just the first part in a drastic loot overhaul that should be done by the end of summer.

Zerbo.5381:

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F, betting 50s on a virtual race that I have zero control over, eating 250 pieces of candy, activating holograms with mobs killed in 1 hit, introducing a drastic change that caused one item’s price to crash in a matter of minutes and only being able to achieve the newest rewards via farming, luck, or buying with gold isn’t exactly my idea of a good patch so far. It has already gotten old.

I’m just curious, how do people find any of these activities fun, challenging and rewarding? Doesn’t all this grinding and farming bore you out of your mind?

With that said, I am having fun with the Dragon Bash if the groups aren’t filled with AFKers (seems to always be at least one). Let’s hope that the upcoming additions do indeed have more “real” fun content, or it’s going to be a long stretch to the next new update/event.

The event just started.. it’s an entire month long… there will be more to do. The point of my post was not about the actual content of the event itself, but rather new gameplay additions or changes added. Maybe read my post next time before commenting?

Nobody finds spamming F fun. They also buffed the hologram mobs by the way, in case you didn’t read patch notes. And just because you can no longer flip T6 dust for absurd profit doesn’t mean the patch was a failure.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d rather be able to farm for an item I want rather than have it locked to cash shop RNG. So in that regard, it’s a vast improvement – regardless of your preferences on farming.

Zerbo.5381:

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F

That’s only if you want that achievement NOW, you DO know that you have an entire month to do those. Hitting F a few times per day while you are waiting for a fotm group, while chatting with guildies or waiting to form a dungeon team can be fun

Mkalafut.1273:

The event just started.. it’s an entire month long… there will be more to do. The point of my post was not about the actual content of the event itself, but rather new gameplay additions or changes added. Maybe read my post next time before commenting?

Nobody finds spamming F fun. They also buffed the hologram mobs by the way, in case you didn’t read patch notes. And just because you can no longer flip T6 dust for absurd profit doesn’t mean the patch was a failure.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d rather be able to farm for an item I want rather than have it locked to cash shop RNG. So in that regard, it’s a vast improvement – regardless of your preferences on farming.

So a couple things:
Your post is commending Anet for the changes in the new patch, placing an emphasis on how RNG boxes are received. I mention these changes, as well as how you attain these boxes and the wings, namely, via farming, luck or buying. So I don’t know why you think I didn’t read your post.

Secondly, I don’t know what your personal success has been with these RNG boxes, but there are MANY posts on the forums of people paying a lot of money for rich coffers, and not getting a jade weapon ticket. Additionally, others have opened thousands of the normal dragon coffers, and also haven’t received a ticket and may never receive one. That’s a lot of time, gold or money for nothing. So I don’t think that these people would agree this is necessarily such a great “change”.

Yes, I know the hologram mobs have been buffed- now I wait 5 seconds and kill them in 2 hits. I don’t see how this is any more fun than 1-shotting them.

You can certainly farm Zhaitaffy for the holographic wings. Assuming that you get 250 taffies an hour, it’s going to take you 400 hours of strait farming to attain them. That’s almost 17 days of playing 24/7. It can be purchased for a decent price as you mentioned, but that’s the only new item except for minis that’s directly purchasable. The shattered wings require grinding and gambling achievements, which I have already mentioned in my previous response.

These are, IMO, not good changes in the right direction.

Lastly, I already recognized and expressed hope in my post that the upcoming additions will be more entertaining, not just simply “more to do”. I hope that those changes will be the ones “in the right direction” (although I’m not going to hold my breath).

maddoctor.2738:

Zerbo.5381:

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F

That’s only if you want that achievement NOW, you DO know that you have an entire month to do those. Hitting F a few times per day while you are waiting for a fotm group, while chatting with guildies or waiting to form a dungeon team can be fun

In the end, I’m still pressing F hundreds of times- so epic.

Zerbo.5381:

maddoctor.2738:

Zerbo.5381:

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F

That’s only if you want that achievement NOW, you DO know that you have an entire month to do those. Hitting F a few times per day while you are waiting for a fotm group, while chatting with guildies or waiting to form a dungeon team can be fun

In the end, I’m still pressing F hundreds of times- so epic.

The event just started. Flame and Frost had an epic dungeon ending but it started off pressing F and collecting kitten and fixing signs. Just be patient. You have an entire month to do the event and I’m sure it’ll be something fun.

KrisHQ.4719:

Mkalafut.1273:

The fact that you made two types of RNG boxes. Coffers and Rich Coffers. In the past, we’ve all hated the fact that the “cool stuff” was locked to cash shop RNG boxes. We love that you can now get just about everything by playing the game and spending time and not being FORCED to spend real money. Tons of us are college students, we appreciate this.

So you were one of the few people that got a ticket on 100-250 coffers, great!
You should know though that people have opened 4000+ Coffers without getting a ticket. The RNG is insane, and imo the way we acquired SAB-Weapons were much better. There should at least be a way that does not involve RNG, because I gave up getting the weapons when i heard the Rich Coffers did not guarantee a ticket.

Edit:
I didn’t hesitate buying Brahams Shield for real money, but spending money on RNG? Nice try Anet, not going to happen!

OP has a very good point.
RNG systems pretty much have to exist in every game. If you look at the chests that appeared since the beginning and their availability, this is a great improvement! It’s true that some unlucky ppl opened 4000 coffers and no ticket dropped. There are cases where 1 coffer was enough to reward that same ticket. However you hear only the bad side of the story!

One of our resident commentators (can’t remember who) have said that the solution should be to reward failure as well. Allowing the wings to be redeemable out of candy is a good way to go, definitely an improvement. The tickets and minis should be allowed too (even 10x more expensive).

The fact is that we can’t blame RNG in everything, and that’s what we see in this forum everyday. Blame your luck instead!

PS: I also opened more than 4000 chests and still not a ticket seen. That does not invalidates that they are more available than previously! Good step IMO.

Zerbo.5381:

Mkalafut.1273:

The event just started.. it’s an entire month long… there will be more to do. The point of my post was not about the actual content of the event itself, but rather new gameplay additions or changes added. Maybe read my post next time before commenting?

Nobody finds spamming F fun. They also buffed the hologram mobs by the way, in case you didn’t read patch notes. And just because you can no longer flip T6 dust for absurd profit doesn’t mean the patch was a failure.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d rather be able to farm for an item I want rather than have it locked to cash shop RNG. So in that regard, it’s a vast improvement – regardless of your preferences on farming.

So a couple things:
Your post is commending Anet for the changes in the new patch, placing an emphasis on how RNG boxes are received. I mention these changes, as well as how you attain these boxes and the wings, namely, via farming, luck or buying. So I don’t know why you think I didn’t read your post.

Secondly, I don’t know what your personal success has been with these RNG boxes, but there are MANY posts on the forums of people paying a lot of money for rich coffers, and not getting a jade weapon ticket. Additionally, others have opened thousands of the normal dragon coffers, and also haven’t received a ticket and may never receive one. That’s a lot of time, gold or money for nothing. So I don’t think that these people would agree this is necessarily such a great “change”.

Yes, I know the hologram mobs have been buffed- now I wait 5 seconds and kill them in 2 hits. I don’t see how this is any more fun than 1-shotting them.

You can certainly farm Zhaitaffy for the holographic wings. Assuming that you get 250 taffies an hour, it’s going to take you 400 hours of strait farming to attain them. That’s almost 17 days of playing 24/7. It can be purchased for a decent price as you mentioned, but that’s the only new item except for minis that’s directly purchasable. The shattered wings require grinding and gambling achievements, which I have already mentioned in my previous response.

These are, IMO, not good changes in the right direction.

Lastly, I already recognized and expressed hope in my post that the upcoming additions will be more entertaining, not just simply “more to do”. I hope that those changes will be the ones “in the right direction” (although I’m not going to hold my breath).

Well you can’t please everyone I suppose. The way I see it, ArenaNet enabled ways to obtain previously unobtainable rewards locked to cash shop RNG boxes. This way I can use my gold to get wings, use candy to get wings, use gold to get basic coffers, gold to get candy. The list goes on. If I don’t want to farm I don’t have to.

There is no way to get around RNG. Some people get 3 tickets with 10 boxes some get 0 with 10,000 boxes. It’s just the way RNG works. At least now with the new system they added, I don’t need to waste my real life cash on it.

LHound.8964:

KrisHQ.4719:

Mkalafut.1273:

The fact that you made two types of RNG boxes. Coffers and Rich Coffers. In the past, we’ve all hated the fact that the “cool stuff” was locked to cash shop RNG boxes. We love that you can now get just about everything by playing the game and spending time and not being FORCED to spend real money. Tons of us are college students, we appreciate this.

So you were one of the few people that got a ticket on 100-250 coffers, great!
You should know though that people have opened 4000+ Coffers without getting a ticket. The RNG is insane, and imo the way we acquired SAB-Weapons were much better. There should at least be a way that does not involve RNG, because I gave up getting the weapons when i heard the Rich Coffers did not guarantee a ticket.

Edit:
I didn’t hesitate buying Brahams Shield for real money, but spending money on RNG? Nice try Anet, not going to happen!

OP has a very good point.
RNG systems pretty much have to exist in every game. If you look at the chests that appeared since the beginning and their availability, this is a great improvement! It’s true that some unlucky ppl opened 4000 coffers and no ticket dropped. There are cases where 1 coffer was enough to reward that same ticket. However you hear only the bad side of the story!

One of our resident commentators (can’t remember who) have said that the solution should be to reward failure as well. Allowing the wings to be redeemable out of candy is a good way to go, definitely an improvement. The tickets and minis should be allowed too (even 10x more expensive).

The fact is that we can’t blame RNG in everything, and that’s what we see in this forum everyday. Blame your luck instead!

PS: I also opened more than 4000 chests and still not a ticket seen. That does not invalidates that they are more available than previously! Good step IMO.

Exactly, thank you for seeing my point. With this case, with enough coffers opened and still no wings, you can still use that candy to redeem for a ticket if that’s what you chose to do. The amount of options are amazing now compared to the past.

Heck, I got 1 weapon ticket, but guildies of mine who have played the game with me since day 1 who have not gotten one still prefer the new system of how they do RNG boxes and event rewards compared to previous events.

The key here is we have options. Which is an improvement.

IMO, the greatest thing is the Wings can be sold/bought. :p

knives.6345:

IMO, the greatest thing is the Wings can be sold/bought. :p

Exactly. People who don’t have gold can farm candy or coffers and hope to get lucky. Or they can just sell the candy / coffers and just buy the wings that way =) Definitely a good feature.

+1 So TRUE, I love what you did this event, as for items and such.

I still hate no real story in there since Flame and Frost… I want more storylines!!! Paraler story lines.

so anet has put its workers to make forum posts now

Wow. If I were to read this post without ever having played GW2, id probably be as impressed as the majority of this thread. Serious question, how can you guys be so content with this? Anet FINALLY get’s a couple of things right and this thread is making it seem like they’ve revolutionized the cure for cancer.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Wow. If I were to read this post without ever having played GW2, id probably be as impressed as the majority of this thread. Serious question, how can you guys be so content with this? Anet FINALLY get’s a couple of things right and this thread is making it seem like they’ve revolutionized the cure for cancer.

They got a lot of things right before this, probably just not for your play style. Of course, if you don’t love the game, you don’t love the game. But some people do. There’s a ton of things this game has gotten right.

If you don’t like them, maybe it’s not because they’re wrong, it’s because they don’t fit your play style.

Hi everyone,

First, remember that the forums are a place for people to share their opinions. Please, let’s not be judgmental based on someone’s opinions. What might have impressed someone can have not impressed you, and that is fair. Let’s please be respectful and keep opinions respectful.

In any case, we thank everyone who is posting here the feedback. We will forward it to the team so they can make use of it.

Please, keep the discussion friendly and constructive.
Thanks for your understanding

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Wow. If I were to read this post without ever having played GW2, id probably be as impressed as the majority of this thread. Serious question, how can you guys be so content with this? Anet FINALLY get’s a couple of things right and this thread is making it seem like they’ve revolutionized the cure for cancer.

Some players rage for little changes, some players thanks for little changes too.
Other players rage for huge changes, other players thanks for huge changes…

It’s not a matter if this changes suffice or not. But good work, small or huge should always be rewarded. In this case, a simple “Great Job, ANet” is enough to break the Adam’s Family house mood!

I wish there was more moa racing also — it’s a great way to pull gold out of the economy in a completely optional way (unlike other gold sinks like way-points which are penalizing if you don’t use them).

I am overall disappointed with this patch. Then again, I don’t really care about loot.

I agree with the OP. Great job ANet. I am enjoying the Dragon Bash.

If the weapons were available through either direct purchase from the gem store or via trade the way the wings are available via trade I would be even happier than I am with this update. I’d really love to be able to get one of the Jade weapons, but I won’t spend gems on a chance at one — my luck just isn’t that good and the tickets are rare enough in the regular coffers that I sure don’t expect to come up with one that way.

Allowing the players who get lucky to choose between keeping the weapon or trading the weapon would at least give the unlucky among us a way to get the goods.

I’m well known as one of the so called troublemakers on these forums but even I have to say thanks (and I have) about the dust fix as well as future fixes coming, and I too am impressed that they allowed for chests to drop from mobs all over. That was certainly a surprise.

Zerbo.5381:

IMHO, running around in Lion’s Arch for hours pressing F, betting 50s on a virtual race that I have zero control over, eating 250 pieces of candy, activating holograms with mobs killed in 1 hit, introducing a drastic change that caused one item’s price to crash in a matter of minutes and only being able to achieve the newest rewards via farming, luck, or buying with gold isn’t exactly my idea of a good patch so far. It has already gotten old.

I’m just curious, how do people find any of these activities fun, challenging and rewarding? Doesn’t all this grinding and farming bore you out of your mind?

With that said, I am having fun with the Dragon Bash if the groups aren’t filled with AFKers (seems to always be at least one). Let’s hope that the upcoming additions do indeed have more “real” fun content, or it’s going to be a long stretch to the next new update/event.

Quote from truth.

The grinding required for the achievements is immense.

Salvagin ectos into dust was a good bandaid to a bigger problem. It solves the immediate situation, but does not address the real problem of the drop rate of the dust.

Having the new dragon coffers drop from EVERY mob all over the map is not a welcome surprise for me. There literally is NO getting away from them if you do not want them. They have infected the loot table and are hampering my abilities to get actual loot.

If I wanted to hide out from the event and run dungeons, I am stuck getting these ‘crap’ dragon coffers there too. It is just WAY too much. I do not want to see another one.

And as far as the wings.. farmable? That is almost laughable. Who in the world could farm 100,000 pieces of candy? Talk about a grind. I highly doubt that is reasonably possible.

Not that I really care about the wings, because as an Engineer who still has his class ignored, most skins are utterly useless. We were told as Engineers that fixes to the ‘hobo sacks’ and other kit skin issues would have to wait because developer resources were being used for ‘higher priority’ fixes and ‘wider reaching’ issues. Come to find out, what they meant was their developer talent was being used to develop more skins for everyone else.

Then, to add insult to injury, I am forced to see these darn dragon coffers no matter where I go. Not a safe place in the game. It literally is like salt in a wound to me every time I pick one up.

Mad Rasputin.7809:

……

If I wanted to hide out from the event and run dungeons, I am stuck getting these ‘crap’ dragon coffers there too. It is just WAY too much. I do not want to see another one.

And as far as the wings.. farmable? That is almost laughable. Who in the world could farm 100,000 pieces of candy? Talk about a grind. I highly doubt that is reasonably possible.

They do drop less in WvW and dungeons from what I hear. I can not say for sure because I am avoiding the mass mob of players. This is the way ArenaNet has always done festivals. Enjoy it as a break from the regular game.

I personally don’t care about the wings. They will just likely sit in my bank. However I am glad to see that ArenaNet and the community found a middle ground just like they did with dyes.

If they do this every month though I myself will likely start getting annoyed. I would say the sweet spot for drop rate is just about as much as the chests in the future.

LHound.8964:

The fact is that we can’t blame RNG in everything, and that’s what we see in this forum everyday. Blame your luck instead!

Is this a joke…?

Seriously? I’m completely opposite of this post. This work should have been put into permanent fixes like dungeons, fotm, wvw, etc. I’m so sick of this temporary kitten. You can put icing on a throw pillow but once the icing is gone it’s still a throw pillow, not a cake.

Good move on ectos to dust, that’s it.

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/editorial/22439-lottery-boxes-are-the-devil

I will just leave this here, and yes i did read your post.

TOXINE.9523:

so anet has put its workers to make forum posts now

That’s a good joke. Click my name and check my forum posts. I’ve done my fair share of negative posts towards several aspects of the game. Funny that you think I’m somehow affiliated with ArenaNet because I posted something positive.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Wow. If I were to read this post without ever having played GW2, id probably be as impressed as the majority of this thread. Serious question, how can you guys be so content with this? Anet FINALLY get’s a couple of things right and this thread is making it seem like they’ve revolutionized the cure for cancer.

This post was made to express how happy we are about their hopefully new approach to event related items and the gem store / RNG boxes. It has nothing to do with anything else. We’re impressed because they’re learning from their mistakes and taking steps towards the right direction.

Aye.8392:

If the weapons were available through either direct purchase from the gem store or via trade the way the wings are available via trade I would be even happier than I am with this update. I’d really love to be able to get one of the Jade weapons, but I won’t spend gems on a chance at one — my luck just isn’t that good and the tickets are rare enough in the regular coffers that I sure don’t expect to come up with one that way.

Allowing the players who get lucky to choose between keeping the weapon or trading the weapon would at least give the unlucky among us a way to get the goods.

I agree. There could be better systems in place to award the festive weapons, but it’s baby steps. Any step in the right direction should be noticed and I think that’s what we got this event. I hope there’s more improvements to come down the road but compared to past events, this is making a lot of people very happy. They have a ways to go before it’s perfect, but they’re learning.

tigirius.9014:

I’m well known as one of the so called troublemakers on these forums but even I have to say thanks (and I have) about the dust fix as well as future fixes coming, and I too am impressed that they allowed for chests to drop from mobs all over. That was certainly a surprise.

Glad to see that even a forum “troublemaker” can appreciate the small steps towards big change. =)

Ping.5739:

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/editorial/22439-lottery-boxes-are-the-devil

I will just leave this here, and yes i did read your post.

I agree with you 100%. I hate RNG boxes just as much as the next guy. If they must exist, I’d rather them exist in this way. Free ones that drop in-game and the paid ones that the people who enjoy spending money on RNG can buy. They found a great middle ground. That’s all I’m saying.

You will never see an MMO these days (a non-subscription based one at least) that does NOT include RNG boxes. Neverwinter has em, GW2 has em, Rift has em, the list goes on. It’s a source of revenue and while people are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars on them, we will never see them go away. But if they must exist, I prefer not having to spend money on them to get the cool event items that I want.

Mad Rasputin.7809:

Salvagin ectos into dust was a good bandaid to a bigger problem. It solves the immediate situation, but does not address the real problem of the drop rate of the dust.

Having the new dragon coffers drop from EVERY mob all over the map is not a welcome surprise for me. There literally is NO getting away from them if you do not want them. They have infected the loot table and are hampering my abilities to get actual loot.

If I wanted to hide out from the event and run dungeons, I am stuck getting these ‘crap’ dragon coffers there too. It is just WAY too much. I do not want to see another one.

And as far as the wings.. farmable? That is almost laughable. Who in the world could farm 100,000 pieces of candy? Talk about a grind. I highly doubt that is reasonably possible.

Not that I really care about the wings, because as an Engineer who still has his class ignored, most skins are utterly useless. We were told as Engineers that fixes to the ‘hobo sacks’ and other kit skin issues would have to wait because developer resources were being used for ‘higher priority’ fixes and ‘wider reaching’ issues. Come to find out, what they meant was their developer talent was being used to develop more skins for everyone else.

Then, to add insult to injury, I am forced to see these darn dragon coffers no matter where I go. Not a safe place in the game. It literally is like salt in a wound to me every time I pick one up.

You brought up many other issues that have nothing to do with the event and what they changed or added during the event patch. I’m sure another thread would have been more appropriate to voice your concerns about engineer bags looking bad. lol