Guild Wars 2

I’m kinda mixed feeling about this.
On one hand i partially agree with the op. The event was poorly executed, the window was too narrow, the servers weren’t in sync (My brother couldn’t login that weekend, so i did the event for him. After i did mine (in a overflow) i set a countdown stopwatch for 2h. 20m before it ran out i logged his char and waited, then waited, then i had to wait another 1h and a half, because it had happened earlier on the actual server than on the overflow.

On the other hand, it was a 3 day run, almost 4, and it was announced with enough warning so that those that couldn’t come could ask someone to log his character for a bit… And we can’t really start setting precendents. Or then people would want to redo the ancient karka chest…

On the other other hand, i hate that so much great content is being wasted as temporary content (like the event pvp scenarios, the flame and frost dungeon, crab toss, etc.)
So many of these things could be kept going, ie the molten weapons facilty could be added as a fractal (i mean fractals do seem to leap in time and space, so why not?)

Its been put in the game once, it can be done again. I didn’t say anything about ease or difficulty. All I’m wondering is why people are so strongly against the event running for longer, or having it run again so others can enjoy it. I didn’t do the event, didn’t even know there was going to be fireworks with a prize and honestly, I don’t care. I just find it a bit disconcerting that people on these boards and in other games are so against people who may have missed events getting a chance to enjoy them.

The devs spent time making the content, no one loses anything if it is recycled, people can only gain enjoyment. Why would it be unfair to people who already saw it? They saw it, got their reward, what do they lose from someone else seeing the same thing and getting the same reward?.

@Anglvamp, it wasn’t some big, spectacular amazing thing that would make or break a game experience. It was a cheesey fireworks show. For me, most of the “excitement” came from everyone being in it together and people congregating and running around and stuff.

If it was really about some kind of enjoyment about seeing a digital fireworks show people would be happy just to watch it on YouTube. It’s about a helmet and achievement – that’s what this fuss is really about, not about enjoying content.

I feel like if they tried it would just have the same problems. Maybe they’ve worked out the issues this fast, but I doubt it. I would guess it’s something they will need to work on and test for the “next one”.

I guess I don’t have faith that “only enjoyment” would be gained – I feel like it would still have frustrating problems and people would still be just as angry and frustrated about everything when they logged on and STILL weren’t able to get it.

And, honestly, yeah, it’s somewhat of a badge of honor. No, it wouldn’t destroy a person if WoW gave everyone a Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal but that’s not the point of the item. The point was for the people who were in a certain place at a certain time that did a certain thing. I don’t see why not have that kind of content. It’s fun. No, it’s not fun that this particular event was buggy, but I don’t see a problem with the type of content in general. It’s not ruining anyone else’s fun because there will be more chances to get your own piece of history. I think that’s more exciting to think about than to dwell on having missed something. I didn’t get to do some of the events on here, but I’m looking forward to ones that I can do in the future.

My point is, its not about buggy content or not. Even if it had worked perfectly, people still would have missed out on content because of an arbitrarily short time frame. Was there a logistical reason they couldn’t shoot off fireworks for 4 days, 5, a week, the whole month of the event?

I’m telling you, straight up, that I wanted a chance to watch some fireworks in game with my friends. The exact same reason to see them in the real world. You don’t get a reward, you get to spend some time with friends and make memories. I couldn’t care less about the helmet, I never wear them. It did however ruin my fun because I didn’t get a chance to enjoy it.

So much else in the game is centered around making sure everyone can get items. Gear is easy to get BiS, most of the content is fairly easy if you know what you are doing. So the only thing keep people from seeing the fireworks, and yes, getting armor skins and achievements is an short time frame.

If your (and I am referring to the general your, not anyone in particular) enjoyment of an in game item is focused on the fact that someone else doesn’t have it, I don’t know what to say. If the only reason to not extend an event or repeat it is so that some people can feel superior to others, I really don’t know what to say.

Anet please make so that until the end of the dragon bash event you can run over to the centre of the grand piazza and enter an instance to view the fireworks to get the achievement and helm, this would be a very nice gesture for those who couldn’t get it due to bugs/overflow issues and who were away for a few days during fathers day, You’d make a lot of people happy if you did this. I’m sure it wouldn’t be that difficult to implement.

really want that dragon helm

Anglvamp.5632:

If your (and I am referring to the general your, not anyone in particular) enjoyment of an in game item is focused on the fact that someone else doesn’t have it, I don’t know what to say. If the only reason to not extend an event or repeat it is so that some people can feel superior to others, I really don’t know what to say.

I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. It’s not about “superior” it’s about a piece of history for being somewhere at a certain time. It’s like getting a special tour shirt from your favourite band that was only available during one tour. Yeah, some people might be like, “oo, I saw them in ‘86 I’m better than you because you saw them in ’95” but for normal people it’s just being there and being part of something – it’s about living life, life that isn’t static and always the same.

Having an item tied to a certain things creates an association with that thing. The “Dragon Bash 2013” helm or wings are unique. But the 2014 ones will be, too – whatever they are. It recalls a certain time, a specific date not just Dragon Bash in general and I think that’s really worth something and I’m happy they seem like they’ll put in the effort to do that instead of just using the exact same things over and over. It’s something to look forward to – yeah, I got almost all the achievements this year, but a new thing next year will be a reason to participate again instead of sitting it out because I already have everything done.

I’m sure they’ll give out a different item next year. All I think is “superior” is the idea of getting a different thing next year – who wants to just have the same thing over and over ?

I agree with you that it would be good to repeat the event at the end because of the poor communication – however I really, really, really doubt it would be possible to do that and not have it go just as badly. Yeah, it was a fumble – but hopefully they’ll work on the problems and learn from them. If they’ve been really working on it and have already worked out the problems, great ! But I don’t think it’s as easy as some people think it would be.

There are other chances to make memories. I’m 90% sure I’m going to miss out on most of the Sky Pirates stuff but it’s okay because there will be more in the future that I can participate in.

I’m not saying you’re wrong for feeling bad that you missed it or that it doesn’t suck – but that being part of a living world means more than just going to one particular event. There will always be new events and new memories – just like in real life. If you get sick or have other plans on the real 4th of July you miss the real life fireworks and you have to set off your own when you’re feeling better or you wait until next year – when there will be a totally different show.

I guess I’m just a happy person. :/

I get the whole ’piece of history thing" but in a video game, there is no history. You can go to Queensdale and kill the same troll 50 million times and it will still show up 50 million and 1. The whole game is pretty static, except for bits here and there.

And honestly, I have no issue with seasonal events, it does quite a lot to give you more of a connection to the world. However, I still see no reason for this thing to have been so short. Perhaps if the thing had run without a hitch and communication had been better they could have kept the time frame the way it was, but I just don’t get why it had to be so short.

With events like this, I’d much rather see them repeated for a while and more dev time spent on developing permanent content rather than each month spitting out bugged and temporary things.

I suppose it comes down to the fact that if I enjoy something, I have no problem enjoying it again and again. If there is a book I like, I read it over and over, movies, same thing. Video games are the same in my opinion, there isn’t anything stopping events from happening over and over. The vast majority of things in the game repeat, so why did this have to be 3 days only?

Anglvamp.5632:

Its been put in the game once, it can be done again. I didn’t say anything about ease or difficulty. All I’m wondering is why people are so strongly against the event running for longer, or having it run again so others can enjoy it. I didn’t do the event, didn’t even know there was going to be fireworks with a prize and honestly, I don’t care. I just find it a bit disconcerting that people on these boards and in other games are so against people who may have missed events getting a chance to enjoy them.

The devs spent time making the content, no one loses anything if it is recycled, people can only gain enjoyment. Why would it be unfair to people who already saw it? They saw it, got their reward, what do they lose from someone else seeing the same thing and getting the same reward?.

This! I don’t understand it either. I see more people that got the achievement wanting the event repeat than not at least. I am surprised that the same 5-10 people are going through these posts and are so against it. Why can’t we enjoy this part of the game too?

A little off topic but I am amazed we have received no red post. It only take a minute to respond to an issue like this and the crab toss achievement. There is a difference between being “aware of a problem” and fixing the problem. To me “aware of the problem” is starting to look more like “don’t get your hopes up.” Sad day.

I really don’t care about the helm at all. I do however care about the achievement – why have it there at all if the entire event runs for an entire month, but the thing that’s required to get the event only happens during three days in the middle? That’s counterproductive to the whole achievement system. That’s like having a daily that required you to do something that’s only available one hour of that day.

My bid right now is to either bring the show back for some amount of time, or at least give people the achievement itself for free. I’m meh on giving out the helm – if people want to keep it as a reward for being in the right place at the right time, let them.

Tears.5627:

A little off topic but I am amazed we have received no red post. It only take a minute to respond to an issue like this and the crab toss achievement. There is a difference between being “aware of a problem” and fixing the problem. To me “aware of the problem” is starting to look more like “don’t get your hopes up.” Sad day.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/2013-06-25
Dragon Bash continues. The Lionguard vows to protect the city during the festival, despite the Aetherblade threat. All Dragon Bash activities (except the fireworks show) will remain available until the last day of the festival. This includes, for those who haven’t played it, the single-player living story that starts with the Memorials on the Pyre instance.

There is your answer. They don’t plan to redo it. The only thing that they should do (and I’m pretty sure they are) is working with the people who were there but didn’t get the rewards for it.

Tears.5627:

This! I don’t understand it either. I see more people that got the achievement wanting the event repeat than not at least. I am surprised that the same 5-10 people are going through these posts and are so against it. Why can’t we enjoy this part of the game too?

I’ve said many times that I wish they could do it. I just feel a need to give my opinion when people argue they should just do it, “it wouldn’t be that hard.” No one but the programers at Anet know that. We don’t know how the show was implemented and if it was programed to self remove after the end date, or with the new update if it is possible without a bit more work than just clicking a few buttons. Also with the new update I imagine their efforts are involved with that so they can provide more events for people to enjoy.

I don’t think I have seen anyone say, “They shouldn’t do it.” There are posts explaining why it may not be possible or how others that did the achievement might respond. I think, for the most part, those discussing those reasons have said many time that they wished there was a solution.

I have seen very few, if any, people say they saw the fireworks and really hope they will add them again just so they can see them again. Once again I’m sorry you missed the event and didn’t get the hat. Yes they should have made the event longer. No it probably isn’t as easy to integrate back into the game as you think. This may be one reason you have not gotten a response. If they do find a way to do it I think that would be great.

If you want to see a real lack of response and lack of respect for customers spend a few minutes reading the Mac support forum.

Correct, we have no idea how hard, or how easy it might be to re-implement the event, so we can’t really discuss that. All I can say is it was put into the game once, so clearly it can be done again if Anet wishes to

Ayrilana.1396:

If they do it for one event then they set a precedent that they will have to for all others that a handful of players happen to miss.

Second post of the thread, sounds pretty much like at least one person saying it shouldn’t be done again. And I have seen plenty of comments like this for GW2 events and events from other games. Maybe that’s why it bugs me so much, it doesn’t hurt anyone for others to get a chance at enjoying events and the rewards from them.

I get most people want the event redone so they can get the hat, is that so wrong? Could it be more difficult than most would expect, yes. It could also be as easy akittenting a couple buttons, we just don’t know.

I really don’t expect it to be re-run, but if someone doesn’t speak up, then how is Anet to know that people are upset?

JustTrogdor.7892:

Tears.5627:

This! I don’t understand it either. I see more people that got the achievement wanting the event repeat than not at least. I am surprised that the same 5-10 people are going through these posts and are so against it. Why can’t we enjoy this part of the game too?

If you want to see a real lack of response and lack of respect for customers spend a few minutes reading the Mac support forum.

Not a contest on what they are less competent on fixing but I can see where you are coming from. They can merge our complaints into one forum but they don’t respond on it. That is a little more than upsetting.

Really wish they would have made the fireworks instanced.

I was Akitten Lion’s Arch for 2 kittening hours and still managed to miss it.