Guild Wars 2

Is that there is quite a large aspect revolving around grind/huge amounts of gold required.

100k zhaittafies. Sure there is the “Just buy from TP” but that emphasis on spending money but if you don’t want the “instant method” and want to get it on your own through normal play, it would take hours upon hours. There was a post on reddit where an example was from a user who said they got around 30 taffies in 10 minutes, so we assumed that if you managed to get 180 an hour (which I feel is quite a stretch of an assumption) that to get 100k you would need to spend 555.5 continous hours to achieve 100k.

The other issue is the moa racing a simple gold sink; a thread on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1g1ntk/moa_race_math/ did some maths and came to the conclusion that the minimum gambling cost for the mini would be around 28.4g (cost will vary but being based on a 1/5 chance of winning races)

The immediate feel I got when I saw these things were “goldsink” and “time sink” (if you want to grind your own 100k candies).

The event itself is great but there is that feel that goldsink is quite a large factor behind this entire event. I’d like to hear from the decision who thought “100,000” items were needed to gain an item. if you were to exaggerate it and make it sound worse, you could say “One tenth of a million”.

I’m just confused by the decisions made from these new content updates, one moment it’s
“Halloween: you can only get these cool skins from RNG gemstore”

then it’s
“Wintersday: you can buy whatever skin you want from the gemstore!”

then
“Southsun: you can get these new crates that give out freebies AND they drop from normal monsters! AND we are throwing you a 200%MF boost to help you further!”

and now..
“Dragonbash: grind for your 100k taffies or buy them from the TP, also spend more gold on the moa racing not small bets like 10s or such but 50s per bet”

I always keep trying to think that GW2 is a new MMO that is trying to appeal to casual gamers and not the old MMO players who simply just grinded.

This latest Dragonbash event really does feel like Arenanet are taking steps backwards. I feel incredibly sorry for new players who haven’t been playing that long. 50s for a bet? that would probably put a huge dent in their funds.

edit: oh and one more thing, I feel kinda sad for those who are buying the “rich” coffers and aren’t getting much from them considering they are meant to be more generous. They don’t seem to be more ‘generous’. Let’s say the normal coffers have a 5% chance of a ticket, the rich roffers should have at least a 35%+ chance for a weapon ticket. It looks terrible how people are wanting to support Anet but still end up frustrated after 20+ coffers with nothing to show for it. And it feels terrible to tell others to no bother buying from the gemstore because it’s a rip off. Regardless of RNG it’s just a poor way to treat your valued customers, if they’re not supporting the game, who is?

Absolutely agree!!

I started playing the content and it was fun. Then I realised that problem about hologram camping, discouraging teamplay. After that, I saw that 100,000 candies needed. And finally, I see that I have to pay 50s for a single bet… I think I will play the minimum required to get the free wings and open some random coffers, but I have no more objectives for a whole month event, because is an event done for making me waste my money.

To those talking about this is a recurrent event that will come every year… In GW1 we had different minis every dragon festival, so they were obtainable in just one event. I don’t want to get my 2013 wings in two or three years of dragon bash grinding.

You are on time to check this numbers, Anet…

Yeah… The camping is what is going to kill this event. The coffers even with their low rate of drops for jade wep tickets I can ignore because reg coffers are dropping easily. It’s the camping I can’t condone. I actually had someone say in map chat to me today “got there first and I’m gonna get all of them first” how I wanted to report them… Make the piñata and effigies as player only! The refugee signs were and other event things… I don’t know how’d you do the holo spawners since they make mobs but figure out a better way please…

I completely agree as well.

What I don’t get is the 180 turn that ANet has taken. They went from being the studio that had it’s finger on the pulse of MMO gamers, designing perhaps the best MMO in the history of the genre, to 2013 ANet, which seems like a clone of every other mediocre MMO development studio we’ve seen degrade the genre over the last decade.

I’m baffled.

You don’t need 100k toffees to get the wings, and buying them that way would be a terrible idea. The wings themselves are going for 45g on the TP if you buy them outright, and 35g if you put in a bid. They’ve dropped from 60g in the 3 hours I’ve been online and will probably drop further as more people get them.

They’re also dropping randomly from all enemies in-game. So you can play anywhere, doing anything, and you’ve got a chance to get them for free. (I have no idea what the drop rate is but it can’t be that bad for so many to show up on the TP already.)

As for the Moa racing it probably is intended as a gold sink. Although at the moment if you spend 28g to get the mini you’ve got a pretty good deal because you can sell it for 70g.

Fiontar.4695:

I completely agree as well.

What I don’t get is the 180 turn that ANet has taken. They went from being the studio that had it’s finger on the pulse of MMO gamers, designing perhaps the best MMO in the history of the genre, to 2013 ANet, which seems like a clone of every other mediocre MMO development studio we’ve seen degrade the genre over the last decade.

I’m baffled.

I agree. I don’t know where it got wrong, but I don’t like the tone of the last events. Especially the achievements. They shouldn’t be the core of an event, but they start to make it towards that because of the rewards inside the achievements. At least give us meaningful achievements and not just rng luck or grinding.
At least that’s what I’m getting from it so far. Hope next week will be better.

In gw1 i could open a gift bag and get 2-3 consumables. Today excited about the dragon festival, i go to LA and i saw someone go up and hit a pinata, so i followed him and hit it and got 1 piece of candy. I thought ok, they all can’t be winners. Searched around for another one, & they aren’t exactly everywhere, but i found another and got 1 piece of candy again. Then I thought surely they can’t all contain the exact same kitten candy, can they? so after about 10 of them and getting 10 same kitten candy pieces, i said in map chat “This pinata loot sucks, anyone gotten anything besides 1 piece of candy?” No one even said they got any other type of loot. As i wondered around a little more i found the merchant that sold the jawbreaker & the back piece. Then i realized i needed to smash 100,000 pinatas, & each one is like a kitten easter egg hunt to find. Time sink is putting it lightly, that’s a life sink to get that done in 30 days. Anyways F the pinatas, it’s lame troll loot.

This company is going WAY downhill, like everykitten aspect of this event had bugs. I played dragon ball with invinible opponents, i lost 2g to bugged moa racing (apperantly they could be stunned?). Oh and the minipets could be upgraded via the forge to exotic 200g minipets.

I do like the drop rate of the coffers off enemys that the only good thing i have to say about the event so far, oh and i like the dragon decorations around LA. But more or less pretty dissapointed, they shouldn’t of rushed it and been so stingy with the loot.

Groonz.7825:

I always keep trying to think that GW2 is a new MMO that is trying to appeal to casual gamers and not the old MMO players who simply just grinded.

GW2 is totaly a mmo for grinder now. ( even the events are for “hardcore” grinder.. that’s pathetic :/ )
Or for ppl who spend a LOT of money in the cash shop…

Fiontar.4695:

I completely agree as well.

What I don’t get is the 180 turn that ANet has taken. They went from being the studio that had it’s finger on the pulse of MMO gamers, designing perhaps the best MMO in the history of the genre, to 2013 ANet, which seems like a clone of every other mediocre MMO development studio we’ve seen degrade the genre over the last decade.

I’m baffled.

That’s so well said.