Guild Wars 2

The title says it all. Who is E? At first, I thought that E was Inspector Ellen Kiel, but then Marjory Delaqua and Lady Kasmeer Meade both hinted that E is a male. Who is he then? Anyone know

I also thought it was Inspector Ellen.

Maybe it still is, and Marjory and Kasmeer just think it is a male. There is really no distinction that it is a male or not in the letters as far as I can recall.

I think it might be Ellen Kiel, and Kasmeer and Marjory are just assuming that E is male.
Also, I find it very weird that Logan does not trust the Lionguard.

Maybe Inspector Ellen is really a man?

Marjory calls Logan HE, maybe he is E. And he doesn’t want to be involved, as he stated.

Gabby.3205:

I think it might be Ellen Kiel, and Kasmeer and Marjory are just assuming that E is male.
Also, I find it very weird that Logan does not trust the Lionguard.

The question is, if it’s Inspector Kiel, why is she so secretive about her identity. It’s not like this is the first time she has asked us for help. I really think it’s got to be somebody else.

I have no idea, I just want her to become an interesting character :c

My first thought was Ellen too.

I could see it working, if either Marjory and Kasmeer don’t know who E is and assume/have been told it’s a man or they do know and the three of them have agreed to refer to E as ‘Mr’ to throw people off. Besides Mrs E doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Alternatively, given the Mister E joke already I’m thinking E may not actually be an initial, Mister E might be the codename, in which case it could be anyone.

I don’t think it’d be Logan or he would have approach our characters directly (or at least put his name in the letter), It could be another member of Destinies Edge who don’t want Logan knowing they’re involved, someone we haven’t met yet or this mysterious rival we’re supposed to have met back in Flame and Frost.

I just went through the past letters we received from E and the very first one starts with

You may not know me, but i know you

, so chances are that E isn’t somebody we have met before. If you think about it, there’s hardly anyone in the game who would have a good reason to conceal their identity from us when asking for help (since we seem to be quite the go-to guy whenever help is required anyway)

Mr. E is obviously Braham Eirsson. Marjory will become part of the Braham/Rox guild.

That’s a joke, by the way.

CorneliusCoffin.3169:

I just went through the past letters we received from E and the very first one starts with

You may not know me, but i know you

, so chances are that E isn’t somebody we have met before. If you think about it, there’s hardly anyone in the game who would have a good reason to conceal their identity from us when asking for help (since we seem to be quite the go-to guy whenever help is required anyway)

Ohh you are right! Aww… It seems that I will not get to like Kiel, then.
Now I am hoping that Mr. E is our nemesis. I’ve been eager to know who the snake-nosed, silver-tongued, fast-talking person from the city is.

It’s obvious that it is Ellen. They just don’t want to give that much info that’s why they don’t say it directly and just say “mister”.

I definitely don’t think its Kiel. She’s the up-front, ask for help point-blank type, not the secretive hidden identity type. She’s had no problem asking for help during Southsun nor asking ordering you to help during the actual instance, plus she’s the one who was in charge of security for the ceremony so if she wanted help on the “downlow” she still would have been able to request it by name and not use a secret identity.

Unless one of the Captain’s Council is involved and she couldn’t risk letting on that she knows about it, but… I don’t see that as terribly likely, personally.

I can’t really think if any existing major NPC’s with an E in their name, if that’s supposed to be an initial of some sort. Evon Gnashblade came to mind thinking of the letter E, but that seems like it’d be a pretty odd choice to have the head of the BLTC knowledgable of some dastardly plan to sabotage the festival and go to random players rather than the Lionguard.

My best guess would be a brand new NPC. Perhaps someone with Aethervolt trying to thwart them from within.

On second thought… yes. You might be right. We don’t know if they assume everyone played the previous Living Story content – then they would not have let the mail start with “you may not know me” if it was Ellen Kiel(they would know each other).

Also Ellen Kiel directly might have intervened and done something to stop the ceremony if she already knew before – and she might have acted different when you talked to her.

But I don’t think the name ends with E? I don’t have the different mails saved anymore… but according to Wiki:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon_Bash_mail#Effigy_Ceremony

The sender’s name was E. Not ____E. The thing where they show something like ___E is – at least according to the Wiki more like —--E and the same with Majory —--Majory… maybe only to indicating that they are signing the mail there. Also it is a capital E.

Edit: Also I think it might be someone who is currently in Lion’s Arch – because he knows stuff from there. Or he he has connection to someone there… via Order of Whispers… that might make sense. But wouldn’t they investigate themselves instead of needing a private investigator?

Edit2: So I don’t think it is someone of the Order of Whispers. Reading the dialogue again (at Wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_Boiled she says "Is that so? I shouldn’t be surprised. This isn’t the first time he’s provided what I needed before I even knew I needed it. " ) Also later they are talking about some “Tassi Box” – that investigation kit. Tassi that guy from the Priory?

There is 1 guy from the Priory with name starting with E in Lion’s Arch at the moment:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Magister_Elwin_Huntsley

And he is human.

Could also be a Batman Reference
E
Mr. E

Mystery

http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/The_Riddler_%28Jim_Carrey%29

Hitting it from a Sherlock Holmes POV, Ellen is Holmes so E is either her Moriarty or her brother…

Luthan.5236:

On second thought… yes. You might be right. We don’t know if they assume everyone played the previous Living Story content – then they would not have let the mail start with “you may not know me” if it was Ellen Kiel(they would know each other).

Also Ellen Kiel directly might have intervened and done something to stop the ceremony if she already knew before – and she might have acted different when you talked to her.

But I don’t think the name ends with E? I don’t have the different mails saved anymore… but according to Wiki:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon_Bash_mail#Effigy_Ceremony

The sender’s name was E. Not ____E. The thing where they show something like ___E is – at least according to the Wiki more like —--E and the same with Majory —--Majory… maybe only to indicating that they are signing the mail there. Also it is a capital E.

Edit: Also I think it might be someone who is currently in Lion’s Arch – because he knows stuff from there. Or he he has connection to someone there… via Order of Whispers… that might make sense. But wouldn’t they investigate themselves instead of needing a private investigator?

Edit2: So I don’t think it is someone of the Order of Whispers. Reading the dialogue again (at Wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_Boiled she says "Is that so? I shouldn’t be surprised. This isn’t the first time he’s provided what I needed before I even knew I needed it. " ) Also later they are talking about some “Tassi Box” – that investigation kit. Tassi that guy from the Priory?

There is 1 guy from the Priory with name starting with E in Lion’s Arch at the moment:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Magister_Elwin_Huntsley

And he is human.

1. The “–E” is indeed the signature for mail. All normal mail (at least for the Living Story) that has a signature does this, it’s built into our template even.

2. The Tassi Box is in reference to Magister Tassi who was the start NPC for the scavenger hunt in the Halloween content. She gave you a Candy Powered Matter Meter to help find ghosts for the hunt. The box is an altered form of that device.

Vahkris.6847:

2. The Tassi Box is in reference to Magister Tassi who was the start NPC for the scavenger hunt in the Halloween content. She gave you a Candy Powered Matter Meter to help find ghosts for the hunt. The box is an altered form of that device.

Yes, yes, I remember. Now I don’t know the exact dialoque anymore when Majory talked about the Tassi Box. And it is not (yet) in the Wiki. Did she say she got it directly from Tassi? Or from someone else(then it might be someone else from the Priory and it might be the E that she talked about “This isn’t the first time he’s provided what I needed before I even knew I needed it.”)

Luthan.5236:

Vahkris.6847:

2. The Tassi Box is in reference to Magister Tassi who was the start NPC for the scavenger hunt in the Halloween content. She gave you a Candy Powered Matter Meter to help find ghosts for the hunt. The box is an altered form of that device.

Yes, yes, I remember. Now I don’t know the exact dialoque anymore when Majory talked about the Tassi Box. And it is not (yet) in the Wiki. Did she say she got it directly from Tassi? Or from someone else(then it might be someone else from the Priory and it might be the E that she talked about “This isn’t the first time he’s provided what I needed before I even knew I needed it.”)

I haven’t been able to go through the instance myself (hence why it’s not in there, I’m working off of videos and screenshots at the moment), but I’ve heard it referenced that she “got it” from her. Possibly bought it, but I can’t be sure yet.

And now I found a video, let’s see what I can pull.

mercury ranique.2170:

The letters are actually singed with ____E
So it seems to me that his/her name ends with an E, and the first mail is saying that he/she can’t go to to lion’s arch cause ‘Circumstances prevent it’. So Ellen seems out of sight.

There is nobody in Destiny’s edge except Rytlock Brimston*e* and Caith*e*. but the writting style is not them. Caithe would be much more enthousiastic bout it and rytlock would order you.

So lets look into the mails further:
‘You may not know me, but I know you’ – so anyone you met during the parts of the main story that are the same as for others or in dungeons or in the living story so far are out . This include (thank god) Trahearn*e*.

’ I’ve heard whispers about a threat to the Ship’s Council’ This might indicate a member of the order of whispers.

’ I’d intervene myself, but circumstances prevent it.’ So there are reasons why this person can’t go to lion’s arch.

‘The situation has worsened. One of the Lion’s Arch councillors, Theo Ashford, has succumbed to his wounds. The Lionguard is keeping the new quiet while the festival continues, but they’re overwhelmed trying to maintain security in the city. At this very moment, a killer walks free, and this cannot be allowed.’
So the person gets information pretty soon and has inside information in the council (again pointing into the direction of the order of whispers).

’ you’ll find one of the best investigative minds in Tyria, Marjory Delaqua. She will need your help to find those behind the councillor’s death. Tell her E sent you’
Marjory knows who it is, and more important knows why this person is hiding his/her identity.

My money is actually on Demmi Beetlestone.
She is currently in the chantry of whispers still hiding for her dad. Very likely she still has ties with old friends in Divinity’s reach, wich are most likely nobels like lady kashmeer (wich would explain here presence). She obvious can’t show her face in Lion’s Arch. You might know her or you might know her not cause of the story and she has access to inside info from the council.

She fits the tale perfectly in my opinion. But then again it can be someone else :P

I like the way you think!

Demmi Beetlestone is the best call we’ve had so far, I think. It would also explain why E’s first letter starts with You may not know me instead of You do not know me, for her knowing the player is obviously connected to which faction the player chose. Some players do know her, others don’t.

However, I’m not entirely sold on this. Demmi is in hiding, not sure if she’s officially with the order of whispers, but if she is, she’s definitely not a high ranking member. Regardles of her status, her ties to the ministry – and her father – are cut. I don’t really see how she would have gained any knowledge of what is going on, if Minister Caudecus was actually behind this (which is most likely, considering that both Logan and Demmi were looking for Marjorie’s assitance).

if Alison is A then E is.. Ezra!

E!

Maybe it’s our Herald. We still have no idea who it is.

He sounds a lot like Vael from GWEN.
I’m sure it’s not Ellen. She seemed almost hostile towards Marjory and E told us to help her. Personally I think they’re introducing a new character (and I bet he’s a descendant to Vael).
Also, anybody noticed how Marjory was hired by Logan for a nice fat bag of coins and then the PC comes in and is like “Hey, I’ll help you even though I have no interest in doing it. It’s a letter that told me to help you and well, I help Tyria I guess.”

You’re right, it does sound like Vael. Could E be related to him? Mysteries after mysteries. O, and nice player “quote”. Lol!

It would be silly if the sender is Demmi Beetlestone, because depending on your personal story, you do know each other quite well. And her name has nothing to do with the initial E.

I hope it is someone we don’t know, and I hope it isn’t revealed. I hope they seriously keep it a secret.

I thought Logan.. Logan Thacker “E”

Mister E is Logan… Logan the EverDying.

“Also, I find it very weird that Logan does not trust the Lionguard.”

Logan is Captain of the Seraph and he certainly mistrusts the other factions in Divinity’s Reach (as seen in the human personal storylines). He can probably find plenty of reasons not to entirely trust the Lionguard and Ebon Vanguard too.

Turn E on it’s side and you get M.

Zeivu.3615:

Turn E on it’s side and you get M.

Or W.

E is male. It’s pointed out in the dialogue.

i guess for now, he will simply remain as a “Mister E” until we find out ; ))
hardy har.

Its Logan. He hired marjory and send you to help her. Marjory said as much. Inspector kiel even tried to refuse you entry into the crime scene.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

It would be silly if the sender is Demmi Beetlestone, because depending on your personal story, you do know each other quite well.

True, but that’s why it would say “you may know me” instead of “you know me.” Since the player may or may not know her, depending on personal story, it fits.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

And her name has nothing to do with the initial E

If it did it would be a rather bad codename, wouldn’t it? ;P

I think it’s a solid enough theory, but eh. I honestly really did not care for her. She’s not a bad character or anything, just very… very annoying.

I could see Logan being it, but I dunno… That, “You MAY know me,” part doesn’t seem to fit. Isn’t he in every personal story? I’m trying to think back…

I am looking at E as a reference to V for Vendetta. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
Maybe we could meet Mr E one day and he looks like a mesmer in starter gear complete with a mask.

Ethros.1453:

I am looking at E as a reference to V for Vendetta. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
Maybe we could meet Mr E one day and he looks like a mesmer in starter gear complete with a mask.

If that’s the case, then E is not a person, he is an idea
(What I’m saying is that the “who” is not as important as the “why”)

Or maybe “E” stands for “Evil”. Mister Evil. EEEEEEVIL. It’s like Dr. Evil but without the doctorate degree.
Then we get to meet our nemesis, and he was toying with us all the time!
(This is not a serious assumption)

jazzllanna.1278:

I thought Logan.. Logan Thacker “E”

The only problem being it is spelled Logan Thacker ay , not Thacker e

I think it’s Dougal Keane. He was the thief and smuggler in Ghosts of Ascalon and used to be in LA near the training area. He is mysteriously not there anymore and with his background there could very well be a reason he cant come to Lion’s Arch or intervene. He is also the sort of character that would have been associated with Majory.

Our character is also not familiar with Keane but his former position in the Lion Guard would make him familiar with us.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dougal_Keane

Edit: Nvm, I found Keane. He is still in LA but not where I remembered him being. kitten . I thought I was on to something.

Eir Stegalkin… (And she kinda looks like a man :P )

It’s Elminster of Shadowdale (he used that – E signature in Baldur’s Gate when contacting with player character).
But seriously it’s probably Code Name for some new character.

I thought of http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Countess_Anise

Note she’s the ‘Master *E*xemplar’ of the Shining Blade. E could be a kind of title/code name based on that, like M in James Bond.

Clearly she’s going to have the covert skills and connections. The only question is why she would be involved. On the other hand, this is all taking place in Kryta, so she might have jurisdiction.

Stooperdale.3560:

“Also, I find it very weird that Logan does not trust the Lionguard.”

Logan is Captain of the Seraph and he certainly mistrusts the other factions in Divinity’s Reach (as seen in the human personal storylines). He can probably find plenty of reasons not to entirely trust the Lionguard and Ebon Vanguard too.

He doesn’t trust the minsitry guard, because they want to overthrow the queen. He trusts the Shining Blade.

The Lionguards are pirates, he has a reason not to.

But tkittenon Vanguard? His ancestors led the vanguard and established Ebonhawke… I don’t think he would have any kind of distrust.

Btw the Lionguard and tkittenon Vanguard aren’t Divinity fractions.

Gabby”

Also, I find it very weird that Logan does not trust the Lionguard.

He never really says that he doesn’t trust them in the cutscene. He merely states he likes to have multiple options open aka the more people with different expertise and skills sets are on the job, the more likely one of them will find a trace of evidence to follow.

I like how this has turned into more of a detective gaem than the actual game

I’ve gone through our theories regarding Demmi Beetlestone again I have to come to the conclusion that, although I wouldn’t completely rule her out as E, it just strikes me as odd that she would send two different people (us and Kasmeer) to ask Marjory for assistance – and that’s just considering Logan visited her on his own terms.

I thought it might be Logan for a short time because Marjory says in her dialogue: This isn’t the first time he’s provided what I needed before I knew I needed it.. But this sentence also indicates that E and Marjory have been working together before and in the cutscene between Logan and Marjory, he comes in and has to ask if she’s Marjory Delaqua. So I think we can rule Logan out.

So I went back to asking myself who would have a reason to stay anonymous (<— hello to my friends in the surveillance team at NSA) and send two different people to Marjory, for I find it very hard to believe that Kasmeer, who knows “Mister E” is just on scene by coincidence.
And this has brought me to believe (again assuming that Logan is there on his own terms) that maybe E didn’t send two people, (s)he simply sent us and then came to check to see if we’d actually help. Kasmeer Meade is E.

We don’t really know a lot about Kasmeer yet. She’s been introduced (I think) with the last Southsun event, in which she didn’t play a major role. We do know she’s part of the human nobility – therefore probably has access to behind the scenes information.
During the southsun event she has at various times vaguely alluded to troubles at home.

My work sometimes brings me into contact with a decidedly unsavory element. Also, my social circle back home has become unacceptably contemptuous of…those less fortunate than themselves.

I appear to have brought some extra baggage with me from Divinity’s Reach, and it’s…shall we say, weighing me down a bit.

We’ve also never really met Kasmeer so far (other than peeping on her and Faren at the nude beach.) and she would have a reason to referr to E as Mister E, for it would conceal her identity for now.
What I haven’t made my mind up about yet is why Kasmeer wouldn’t be able to come to Lion’s Arch to handle things on her own.

Sieg.8439:

True, but that’s why it would say “you may know me” instead of “you know me.” Since the player may or may not know her, depending on personal story, it fits.

But that’s silly. Either the player and her know each other really well, in which case “you may know me” doesn’t apply at all. Or you’ve never met her. In which case there is no doubt either. Why would she not remember me saving her life? This generic line just in case she wasn’t in your personal story, seems a bit out of place for someone like Ms Beetlestone. Which is why I doubt that it is her.

Also, it is hinted that E is a man. And the letter E has nothing to do with her name. I agree though that if it was the letter D, it would be a pretty poor code name. But then again, you have to wonder what the point of signing a letter is in the first place, if you are trying to keep your identity a secret.

So, here’s how I think the whole story pans out (and if any of this is right, I’m going to play the lottery this week.):

The cuplrit behind the Dragon Bash attacks is Minister Caudecus.
Caudecus has hired the aetherblades (a secret society of assasins) for the attack on Dragon Bash, however the overall attacks were a diversion, the prime target was the charr cultural representative Garrot Ambercowl, who was sucessfully killed by the aetherblade Mai Trin. Im not quite sure what the cultural representative’s role in all this is yet (since most of them seem to have been set up to look like they’re behind this) but I imagine that the grand scheme is to forge evidence to somehow make it look as if Queen Jennah was behind the attacks, which would certainly mean and end to the peace treaty between the humans and the charr and enable Caudecus to get another shot at Jennah’s throne.
Now, Logan Thackeray has somehow got wind of all this. He might not know all of the details but he definitely suspects Caudecus to be the mastermind behind the scheme, which is why he can’t turn to the ministry for help and and asks Marjory Delaqua. Delaqua willingly accepts Thackerey’s money, but she does not tell him that she’s been contacted before by somebody else to investigate in the very same case, the mysterious E, or as we would call her Lady Kasmeer Meade.
Lady Kasmeer has heared whispers in her social circle about an upcoming attempt to usurp Queen Jennah’s throne. She contracts her old associate Marjory Delaqua to make use of her ties to the ministry. After all, Delaqua is a former ministry guard turned rogue (—> cf Marjory’s Story: The Last Straw part 1). When the attacks at the Dragon Bash festival happen, Delaqua and Kasmeer immediately suspect that they have something to do with the scheme, however, since Lion’s Arch is lionguard territoroy they have no authorization to sneak around and investigate. They also do not want to ask the liongaurd for permission, because after all they – or at least parts of them – might be involved in the scheme to dethrone Queen Jennah. At this point Lady Kasmeer remembers the hero, who has helped to manage the crisis at Southsun Cove, and who seems to have close enought ties to the lionguard to work for them without actually being a lionguard member. Assuming her secret identity of E, she writes a letter to said hero…and this is essentialy where our story begins.

Again, all of this is pure speculation and I’d be surprised if any of this was true.
What do you think?