Guild Wars 2

This patch has a nice big perm. addition for the WvW crowd: Edge of the Mists, a brand new map. It’s a cool one too. One thing I noticed though is that it, like the previous map we got for Lost Shores, has no Vista or skillpoints and for no obvious reason does not count for map completion. Is this something players should just expect from all future maps? If not, why does EotM not count for map completion? Do you think it’s good that EotM doesn’t? Should it become completable in the future?

I’m not happy about it. As annoying as getting everything in WvW can be, it makes no sense for a new zone to lack exploration features that the other maps have. It also leaves me wondering why they released it without those features. I guess it’s not a huge complaint, but something I notice.

I think that most people would prefer not to be required to WvW in any way just for map completion. However, a nice compromise, IMO, would be to have small achievements tied to certain things.

For example, if you reach the top of the Overgrown section, you get an achievement. It still contributes to the sense of being rewarded for exploration, but now a huge part of getting a legendary isn’t tied to it.

Because you can’t retroactively edit the requirements for World Completion – it creates massive issues.

Suddenly people who previously had completion no longer do, and then what do you do when they hit it again? Add programming to make sure they don’t get another Gift?

It also pushes new players further and further away from the achievement, presenting them with a more difficult experience than the players before them.

You can expect new completion achievements with later large additions to the game, but at this stage it wouldnt make any sense for EoTM to have map completion. Even WvW shouldn’t because it isn’t part of Tyria, it’s part of the mists.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Because you can’t retroactively edit the requirements for World Completion – it creates massive issues.

Suddenly people who previously had completion no longer do, and then what do you do when they hit it again? Add programming to make sure they don’t get another Gift?

It also pushes new players further and further away from the achievement, presenting them with a more difficult experience than the players before them.

You can expect new completion achievements with later large additions to the game, but at this stage it wouldnt make any sense for EoTM to have map completion. Even WvW shouldn’t because it isn’t part of Tyria, it’s part of the mists.

They’ve added new WPs to the game (for example, there’s one in Gendarran Fields called Aetherblade site 2, or something like that) and I believe if you don’t have map completion already, you need these WPs to get it.

Please stop asking for more grind….

As others have said, this should not count for map completion. I do think there should be vistas, poi, and skill points that people can get if they choose. It just shouldn’t count for the overall.

I would like vistas for this map to get nice views of it.

So EotM has no POI/vistas/SP’s etc.? If so, that’s a bit disappointing, but I’m also a bit relieved I don’t have more WvW mapping to do. Win-win either way.