Guild Wars 2

So the attempt to alleviate ques in WvW has worked for the most part with the introduction of EoTM. The only thing wrong is the fact that for us lower pop servers that for some reason you still have set as Very High pop (probably to cash those more exspensive transfers) we lose people in the real WvW to the EoTM which promotes the ability of a single guild on an enemy server to just log onto WvW after they see our commanders join in EoTM with that wonderful addition to see what WvW map were on. After that they have no trouble flipping fully fortified towers because we don’t have the numbers to push them back. I understand its a new update and people are testing it out but since there is no cap on how many can join it and it is the “newest” content people are going to be in it for awhile leaving it so an enemy guild just waits to see when one of the commanders joins in it or even into another BL. To top it all off this whole servers playing with other servers is the worst joke in the game. The mentality of other commanders is no hes on a different server follow this guy hes on our server is absolute garbagio. Im sorry to see after a year and a half of the game being out this is the only WvW update we had and for the most part it really is not fun to do. It is another champ train like Queensdale.

You could have really fixed the WvW ques if you had your community managers talk one on one with the bigger guilds and promote the possibility of a free guild transfer to a lower pop server or give added bonuses to people who switch to the less populated servers which again all the servers are Very High for no apparent reason.

Well, the map is new and everybody is checking it out. Give it two weeks and many people are going to be back to the original WvW maps.

Server population isn’t based on who WvWs or not. It’s how many accounts are housed there. So if you’re suffering from low numbers in WvW, that means everyone else is PvEing. I suggest you make some friends, and try to recruit more PvE players to do WvW.

Ignavia.7420:

Well, the map is new and everybody is checking it out. Give it two weeks and many people are going to be back to the original WvW maps.

I understand that but even losing 10-15 people for our server is debilitating at times. We don’t normally get que times except peak every now and again and its pretty much a ghost town.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Server population isn’t based on who WvWs or not. It’s how many accounts are housed there. So if you’re suffering from low numbers in WvW, that means everyone else is PvEing. I suggest you make some friends, and try to recruit more PvE players to do WvW.

I understand its not based on WvW alone but the fact of the matter is go on blackgate see how thriving that server is then go on Darkhaven and see how thriving that server is. There is a huge population gap in it. Not every server is still Very High in population but because its set like that it is still 25 bucks for the transfer vs what it really should be that makes it so more people don’t transfer.

Laylie.5703:

I understand that but even losing 10-15 people for our server is debilitating at times. We don’t normally get que times except peak every now and again and its pretty much a ghost town.

The map have been out for about a day.
People always spend some time on new stuff.
The REAL WvW will still take place, and those people that actually play WvW for the sake of WvW will play on the real maps.

lordkrall.7241:

Laylie.5703:

I understand that but even losing 10-15 people for our server is debilitating at times. We don’t normally get que times except peak every now and again and its pretty much a ghost town.

The map have been out for about a day.
People always spend some time on new stuff.
The REAL WvW will still take place, and those people that actually play WvW for the sake of WvW will play on the real maps.

Again I understand that but like I stated above even losing 10-15 people that normally WvW to it a day is crippling for us especially during the day time.

EOTM is giving people a chance to compete, I think most people on the losing or lesser populated servers would appreciate it. You can’t fault people for going into EOTM because it’s probably the only time they can have fun if you’re with a server that gets beat down by massive blobs every day.

I think Anet did it right. Now of course this doesn’t fix WvW issues for lower populated servers, or at least servers with lower WvW participation. But I don’t think there’s much Anet could solve those problems. By giving EOTM a cross-server, joint matches, it gives those on the losing side hope and a chance to have some fun in WvW.

I see it as a good thing honestly. Because I’m from DB and for the past few days, we already saw less WvW participation due to the massive blobs that Mag are able to summon every day & night, all hours of day & night. This happened not because of EOTM, this was due to the match up. If I have to go to EOTM to have some fun and not get rolled continuously, then that’s what I’m going to do.

Even if people do spend a few days, or a week or whatever checking out the new map it’s hardly the end of the world. Your server will do worse than usual in one match.

You won’t be the only one. There will be a bit of fluctuation in the rankings, and when the novelty wears off and things go back to normal they’ll go back to where they were.

You don’t even need a guild for this. 10 guys can flip a map. Did it today. Rather funny just strolling for fort to fort and taking them with no resistance other than NPC.

BrotherBelial.3094:

You don’t even need a guild for this. 10 guys can flip a map. Did it today. Rather funny just strolling for fort to fort and taking them with no resistance other than NPC.

That’s because this is a PvE map where you can kill people. Most people try to look at it as a WvW map and that isn’t the case.

style.6173:

BrotherBelial.3094:

You don’t even need a guild for this. 10 guys can flip a map. Did it today. Rather funny just strolling for fort to fort and taking them with no resistance other than NPC.

That’s because this is a PvE map where you can kill people. Most people try to look at it as a WvW map and that isn’t the case.

I was refuting to a borderland. My self and 9 others went and made a borderland ours with out any problems from other players. EoTM has pulled almost everyone out of the normal WvW maps. At least for my server it would seem.

i never enjoyed wvw till this map, this is super fun

Dont know what to say. Try to tough it out. If it doesnt get better, then this is a huge problem for lower pop servers.

My action in WvW maps is to usually not be apart of some huge blob, experience in the eotm has been so much better for my play style it’s going to be a rare occurrence to find myself in actual WvW.

But hey one less body you got to worry about roaming instead of blob’n.

I do think classic WvW is gonna be a ghost town for non top servers like mine (CD) from now on. Why bother going to a map with almost nobody where you have to run 10 mins just to find a battle when you can log into an EotM overflow that is full to the brim with players on all sides due to a better populating mechanism (pulling players from all servers)? I think the vast majority of players don’t really give a kitten about world score (including me), so there is really little point to the old maps anymore.

And it’s a positive feedback cycle: more people going to EotM makes classic WvW even more dead which in turn drives more people from classic to EotM, and so on.

Don’t worry, i doubt anyone will stay on that map for long.. after the achievements are done this map will be empty.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Don’t worry, i doubt anyone will stay on that map for long.. after the achievements are done this map will be empty.

I suspect the opposite.

Why play in blow out matches where you are outmanned and zerged to the deepest cravices of hell every day when you can hop into an EotM and get stacked with all other servers of your colour and get far more even matchups?

The only reason i can think of is playing as a guild, which is a much bigger hassle in EotM then WvW.

Jabberwock.9014:

I do think classic WvW is gonna be a ghost town for non top servers like mine (CD) from now on.

Hm?
We had queues on several maps yesterday and we aren’t really a top server (AG rank 12) so I don’t really think that will be much of an issue to be honest.

Terrahero.9358:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Don’t worry, i doubt anyone will stay on that map for long.. after the achievements are done this map will be empty.

I suspect the opposite.

Why play in blow out matches where you are outmanned and zerged to the deepest cravices of hell every day when you can hop into an EotM and get stacked with all other servers of your colour and get far more even matchups?

The only reason i can think of is playing as a guild, which is a much bigger hassle in EotM then WvW.

you’re probably right, though i believe you can join your party in the Mists..
Im used to guildgroups, havn’t bothered to try and group up in the mists yet..

To me its a bit backwards, they should have 4 maps like this, (merged servers etc) and 1 main map that is all out between servers.

That way coverage is concentrated into 1 map instead of across 4, create a separate table for the other maps.

Just a guess, but what you may see when the dust settles is the top tier servers will still be very competitive in WvW and the lower tiers will gravitate to the “community center” EotM format.

EoTM will be a great training ground for WvW. I’ve already had some pretty epic battles in the game against the enemy team.

You can bring in PvE only people and introduce them a little more subtly with EoTM. Take out some champions. Get some Loot. Kill some people.

Also the map seems built for small groups ~20 and roamers. That could draw some of those crowds away from the normal WvW.