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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

Q: I don’t get loot from knights, (insert QQ)….

A: Have your zerg think BGR is the best sequence, hit the boss as soon as it pops to ensure dip, do as much damage as possible for the rest of the blue fight. Skip Green(not profitable). Go immediately to Red after Blue, have first dip, survive until zerg come, do damage as much as possible.

For losing Green power core, you’ll gain blue and red.

*My strategy tackles on the limitation of the amount of players each bosses can be tagged to, thus the loots distribution.
*This is not an exploit since a 3-bosses event can be done in 7 ways, namely:
(order is not important)
Fight all 3: 3nCr3 = 1 way
Fight 2 (while others fight the 3rd): 3nCr2 = 3 ways
Fight 1: 3nCr1 = 3 ways

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: panzer.6034

panzer.6034

I only get bags when i show up for the last 10% of the fight. When i show up at the start, i get nada.

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Posted by: Mortifer.2946

Mortifer.2946

So, is it really about damage??? I am full ascended PVT guardian, I damage those bosses with GS and Scepter. I did not get a loot box yet, though I done it many times.
Isn’t it bugged???

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Posted by: godofcows.2451

godofcows.2451

hit it a few times, then go afk. award winning strategy.

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Posted by: Hebee.8460

Hebee.8460

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

There seems to be a limit for tagging the boss, I’m not sure if it’s a first come first tag or the late ones cancel the first ones. If it’s the first scenario, use my strategy, if it’s the latter one, just hop in when the bosses are at 10-30% hp.

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

Loot is not bugged, Anet seems to want to limit power core drop to ensure it’s value. My strategy is based on laws of supply and demand and freedom of choice, you may choose any 2 of the 3, but you just won’t get all 3 unless you are really gifted, welcome to real world.

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Hebee.8460

Hebee.8460

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

Loot is not bugged, Anet seems to want to limit power core drop to ensure it’s value. My strategy is based on laws of supply and demand and freedom of choice, you may choose any 2 of the 3, but you just won’t get all 3 unless you are really gifted, welcome to real world.

So do a 3 boss event not as designed….got it

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Posted by: Mad Rasputin.7809

Mad Rasputin.7809

Your strategy doesn’t work.

You can try your strategy, and still not receive and loot. Doesn’t matter if you are among the first to tag blue. Doesn’t matter if you DPS the whole fight.

There is definately an issue that should be addressed here.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

Loot is not bugged, Anet seems to want to limit power core drop to ensure it’s value. My strategy is based on laws of supply and demand and freedom of choice, you may choose any 2 of the 3, but you just won’t get all 3 unless you are really gifted, welcome to real world.

So do a 3 boss event not as designed….got it

We are the same, we ASSUMED the design, so further talking about the design is pointless.

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

Getting loot is all about doing enough damage. So go berserker people.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

Oh, I haven’t mentioned I’m full berserker, perhaps that’s why it works for me.

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Allanon.9072

Allanon.9072

the loot from knights is broken have you tried after the last patch i tried in party and no one got any drop i think you’re just trolling.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

What I said goes as far as how much you want to believe. Try it out yourself and preferably with your group (for max dps).

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Sardonia.8196

Sardonia.8196

Did the event last night twice after the patch. Night before I got loot from every knight. Last night after the patch, nothing at all for all of them. First to hit etc, nothing. No one in the fight got anything.

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Posted by: Naevius.3185

Naevius.3185

It seems to be unpredictable. Even if you are in the fight from the beginning, and do a ton of damage, it sometimes just refuses to give you loot.

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Posted by: Allanon.9072

Allanon.9072

What I said goes as far as how much you want to believe. Try it out yourself and preferably with your group (for max dps).

prove or ** cause of ppl like you qq that get to much loot now we don’t get anything anymore.

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Posted by: Rebound.3409

Rebound.3409

For the lulz of it i equiped my old pure damage zerker build..went also damage traits..weapons everything..i was a walking 1 hit kill but the most damage a thief could ever do. I also had shortbow and 2x pistols. I was in a zerker full party that included 2 thiefs like me and 2 warriors.

Never once died. Started shooting from the start. Killed 6 kinghts (2 runs)…received 0 loot.

The droprates are bullsh**. Whatever they did in the last patch is not normal.

Also is this even only available for the lvl80s now? a lower level or a new commer can’t enjoy the content anymore? Seriously ANet? What scares u so much? us having fun for a while? or what part of the game scared u so much that u needed to nerf a normal droprate at knights? We invest 40min in those knights…and we get 15 boxes…which give about 40 green items (maybe 1-2 rares if lucky). If i farm miasma i get 250 bags + 2x filled green inventory that i have to salvage.

Why are u so afraid of us having fun ANet?
Because the droprate is clearly intentional considering it was good before (for the work we put in AND for the lower level new comers) and it’s kitten now. Also not fixing it till now shows u like it this way.

I like how devs answer dumb thraeds like “Heeeey u LAiK dis QUAGGUUUN piczzz?” and every dev goes “Hurrr Durrrrr…yuuuuuss so amuuzziiing ….bestesT!” but when a real issue comes up everyone goes silent.

How about fixing drops..how about fixing stuck in mid air when entering scarlet..how about fixing scarlet killing u even before u fully spawn. Or are those also intentional? If it’s not..please do amuse me..when do u plan on fixing what u broke? After this event is over? ….it’s another one of dem’ “we learned our lesson and in the future……..” ? Really sick of seeing u guys still in the “learning stage”…? When will we stop being in this “learning stage” and actually not fk up every fun side of this game?

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

I’ve heard you need to be in a group to get loot. Plausible?

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Posted by: Pipra.7580

Pipra.7580

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

Loot is not bugged, Anet seems to want to limit power core drop to ensure it’s value. My strategy is based on laws of supply and demand and freedom of choice, you may choose any 2 of the 3, but you just won’t get all 3 unless you are really gifted, welcome to real world.

Power core drop is separate from the Champ Loot Boxes. I’ve gotten the boxes probably 10 times now, but have only received two cores.

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Posted by: Pipra.7580

Pipra.7580

I’ve heard you need to be in a group to get loot. Plausible?

That is false. I have received loot both in and out of a group. Conversly, I have not received loot both in and out of a group, as well.

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Posted by: Allanon.9072

Allanon.9072

I’ve heard you need to be in a group to get loot. Plausible?

Not anymore the loot is not working right anymore after last patch.

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Posted by: Sardonia.8196

Sardonia.8196

Hey Rebound,

Quick thing, when you got stuck going into the hologram fight, did you jump right before entering the portal? I did that twice and got stuck each time. The next time I just ran in without jumping and did not get stuck. Just curious

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Posted by: Rebound.3409

Rebound.3409

Yea i kinda had to jump otherwise it wouldn’t teleport me in. My character runs but is hugging the wall of the teleporter thingy because they didn’t make it at the same level as the character itself. Tried this only at red side as red is the last one we always kill.

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Posted by: Sardonia.8196

Sardonia.8196

Yea i kinda had to jump otherwise it wouldn’t teleport me in. My character runs but is hugging the wall of the teleporter thingy because they didn’t make it at the same level as the character itself. Tried this only at red side as red is the last one we always kill.

I managed to just run into the red one that one time without getting stuck. Who knows. Needs fixing either way

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Posted by: Antonin.3926

Antonin.3926

This strat does NOT work. Loot drop is bugged.

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Posted by: ProRulez.5207

ProRulez.5207

Doesnt work, the knight targeted me all the time but got no loot.

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Posted by: Scottd.5764

Scottd.5764

There is no point entering this event ounce you complete it. It is def not worth the 40 min to complete for what gets dropped.

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Posted by: Jordo.5913

Jordo.5913

I have never received loot outside of a party…..i have always received loot inside of a party

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Posted by: Nebulis.8973

Nebulis.8973

The whole main FA server got no loot this last round. /:

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Loot is bugged. The fact this “strategy” tells you to avoid a intended boss of the 3 further shows that its bugged.

Loot is not bugged, Anet seems to want to limit power core drop to ensure it’s value. My strategy is based on laws of supply and demand and freedom of choice, you may choose any 2 of the 3, but you just won’t get all 3 unless you are really gifted, welcome to real world.

Yes, i won’t get all 3. I can’t even get 1 lately. And with this strategy i may still get no loot, because whatever causes this bug to manifest doesn’t seem to be dps based. Not while sometimes noone gets loot at all.

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Posted by: Dosvidaniya.3260

Dosvidaniya.3260

The whole main FA server got no loot this last round. /:

No one would confirm getting loot on Blackgate for the last two attempts; several complained about the lack thereof. Loot is broken.

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Posted by: Moshari.8570

Moshari.8570

Using my full zerker warrior both before and after last nights patch….recieved loot before patch solo and in a group, 4 kills, 4x loot…although one guy in my group did not get loot on one of the kills. After patch have recieved no loot either solo or in a group…and neither did anyone else in my group in 4 kills.

Damage is definitely not the problem as a full zerk warrior I do PLENTY of damage…

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

Q: I don’t get loot from knights, (insert QQ)….

A: Have your zerg think BGR is the best sequence, hit the boss as soon as it pops to ensure dip, do as much damage as possible for the rest of the blue fight. Skip Green(not profitable). Go immediately to Red after Blue, have first dip, survive until zerg come, do damage as much as possible.

For losing Green power core, you’ll gain blue and red.

*My strategy tackles on the limitation of the amount of players each bosses can be tagged to, thus the loots distribution.
*This is not an exploit since a 3-bosses event can be done in 7 ways, namely:
(order is not important)
Fight all 3: 3nCr3 = 1 way
Fight 2 (while others fight the 3rd): 3nCr2 = 3 ways
Fight 1: 3nCr1 = 3 ways

Better strategy, ANet fix the tag limit/change the event to three separate events that are linked. If you get rewarded for one you get the rewards, You get final rewards based on the number of champions you defeat, maybe. Or you just get it if all three are defeated and you participated in at least one.

Then everyone gets everything they earned instead of potentially nothing.

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Posted by: Aveneo.2068

Aveneo.2068

Q: I don’t get loot from knights, (insert QQ)….

A: Have your zerg think BGR is the best sequence, hit the boss as soon as it pops to ensure dip, do as much damage as possible for the rest of the blue fight. Skip Green(not profitable). Go immediately to Red after Blue, have first dip, survive until zerg come, do damage as much as possible.

For losing Green power core, you’ll gain blue and red.

*My strategy tackles on the limitation of the amount of players each bosses can be tagged to, thus the loots distribution.
*This is not an exploit since a 3-bosses event can be done in 7 ways, namely:
(order is not important)
Fight all 3: 3nCr3 = 1 way
Fight 2 (while others fight the 3rd): 3nCr2 = 3 ways
Fight 1: 3nCr1 = 3 ways

Better strategy, ANet fix the tag limit/change the event to three separate events that are linked. If you get rewarded for one you get the rewards, You get final rewards based on the number of champions you defeat, maybe. Or you just get it if all three are defeated and you participated in at least one.

Then everyone gets everything they earned instead of potentially nothing.

Best way for ANet to fix this is to give each player a personal bouncy-chest for each participation medal; just like the little chests that pop up on the right of the screen for killing worldbosses. That way everyone gets the loot.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

Q: I don’t get loot from knights, (insert QQ)….

A: Have your zerg think BGR is the best sequence, hit the boss as soon as it pops to ensure dip, do as much damage as possible for the rest of the blue fight. Skip Green(not profitable). Go immediately to Red after Blue, have first dip, survive until zerg come, do damage as much as possible.

For losing Green power core, you’ll gain blue and red.

*My strategy tackles on the limitation of the amount of players each bosses can be tagged to, thus the loots distribution.
*This is not an exploit since a 3-bosses event can be done in 7 ways, namely:
(order is not important)
Fight all 3: 3nCr3 = 1 way
Fight 2 (while others fight the 3rd): 3nCr2 = 3 ways
Fight 1: 3nCr1 = 3 ways

Better strategy, ANet fix the tag limit/change the event to three separate events that are linked. If you get rewarded for one you get the rewards, You get final rewards based on the number of champions you defeat, maybe. Or you just get it if all three are defeated and you participated in at least one.

Then everyone gets everything they earned instead of potentially nothing.

Best way for ANet to fix this is to give each player a personal bouncy-chest for each participation medal; just like the little chests that pop up on the right of the screen for killing worldbosses. That way everyone gets the loot.

This is exactly what I was thinking, yes.

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

Pro tip, when you see “strategies” like this posted, just ignore them.
The events are bugged, there is no possible way the drops can be working as intended. Everyone and their grandma seems to have a theory but many of these theories cancel each other out. Just keep complaining until the devs decide to take notice and give us an answer. Myself? I have stopped doing the events, not going to waste my time.
If you all remember, this was the same thing that was happening with the rest of the champs. The devs told us they would drop guaranteed loot, but they where dropping nothing at all. It took months for them to admit there was a problem and fix it. Since this is a limited time event, don’t hold your breath, it will be easier for them to just continue to ignore us until the event is over.

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Posted by: Hebee.8460

Hebee.8460

Since this is a limited time event, don’t hold your breath, it will be easier for them to just continue to ignore us until the event is over.

Sad but true

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Posted by: Lue.6538

Lue.6538

Getting loot is all about doing enough damage. So go berserker people.

This is flat out wrong.

I’ve tested the following classes with item stats:
berserker phantasms mesmer
soldier GS guardian
Carrion conditions necromancer
Rabid bleed elementalist

Now to begin with, I’ve done the fights both in groups and solo with all the characters and I’ve on purpose limited my DPS in some of the cases in an effort to determine this “damage threshold” that some of you believe in.

Out of 19 kills so far, I’ve gotten loot 11 times and I can say that the damage concept is flat out humbug.

With the mesmer I’ve participated in 9 fights, 3 group, 6 solo and gotten loot 5 times.
With the necromancer I’ve had 3 fights, 2 group, 1 solo with 1 loot received.
With the guardian its been a marvelous run, 4 fights, 2 group, 2 solo, all 4 times have contained boxes.
And that leaves the elementalist: 3 fights, 1 solo 2 group, 1 loot.

What is interesting is that it hasn’t mattered at all wether or not I was in a group or not, how much damage I did or when I engaged the boss.
For example: I reached the red knight on my mesmer roughly when it hit 80% health, got the boon, fired a Magic bullet at it and that was all it took to get the 6 deluxe gear boxes and ofcourse, bronze contribution!
Another example would be with the necromancer.. a well of suffering at roughly 40% health on the green knight was enough to get my share of the loot.

Both of the aforementioned were done solo so I did not share any form of contribution from groupmembers, this leads me to believe that there either is:
1) A severe bug in the way contribution is calculated for the loot.
2) The damage treshhold is below 26 damage
3) The damage treshhold is a figment of imagination
or 4) The loot distribution is simply random among the players who have acquired a minimum amount of contribution.

I’ve seen no difference in the loot acquired regardless of how much I actually contributed to the kill but rather it simply appeared as dumb luck.. I just wish I had an actual larger datasample to use.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

The damage threshold necessary to tag a mob, any mob, if very very low. One strong attack is often enough to get full credit.

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Posted by: Arnon.1563

Arnon.1563

It’s broke as can be only time I ever got loot was on a necro staff one and wells marks when I actually could use them and solo.

Guard, Ranger and Necro 12 kills loot once. When I get home, I’m submitting a bug for my 60 boxes that I didn’t get.

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Posted by: Aveneo.2068

Aveneo.2068

Q: I don’t get loot from knights, (insert QQ)….

A: Have your zerg think BGR is the best sequence, hit the boss as soon as it pops to ensure dip, do as much damage as possible for the rest of the blue fight. Skip Green(not profitable). Go immediately to Red after Blue, have first dip, survive until zerg come, do damage as much as possible.

For losing Green power core, you’ll gain blue and red.

*My strategy tackles on the limitation of the amount of players each bosses can be tagged to, thus the loots distribution.
*This is not an exploit since a 3-bosses event can be done in 7 ways, namely:
(order is not important)
Fight all 3: 3nCr3 = 1 way
Fight 2 (while others fight the 3rd): 3nCr2 = 3 ways
Fight 1: 3nCr1 = 3 ways

Better strategy, ANet fix the tag limit/change the event to three separate events that are linked. If you get rewarded for one you get the rewards, You get final rewards based on the number of champions you defeat, maybe. Or you just get it if all three are defeated and you participated in at least one.

Then everyone gets everything they earned instead of potentially nothing.

Best way for ANet to fix this is to give each player a personal bouncy-chest for each participation medal; just like the little chests that pop up on the right of the screen for killing worldbosses. That way everyone gets the loot.

This is exactly what I was thinking, yes.

Yeah, I have no idea why they did not implement that in the first place. Having a personal bouncy-chest for each Knight you get the participation medal for would be so much better.

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Posted by: crystalpink.2487

crystalpink.2487

lol @ award-winning strategy.
People could still get loots even without using that strategy before the yesterday patch.
None of those strategy works after Anet made knights drop nothing.
Yes, nothing at all after yesterday patch.

Thanks to everyone who complained about knights dropping too many loots prior the patch yesterday.

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Posted by: Kyvia.5961

Kyvia.5961

Check the Bug forum, soo many threads…

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Posted by: HarryWolfe.9024

HarryWolfe.9024

fairly much the patches ruined the drops…. two daya ago i was getting loot from every knight.
yesterday and today nothing from 95% of knights.

full zerka ele, full zerka dual pistol thief
first tag doesnt work, not for me at least.

2 days(australia) of only 1 loot drop from a knight, after killing over a couple dozen….

the only loot i get is from killing the holograms, which is nice loot… but as far as being rewarded for participating in the knights fight… i feel jipped every time i see someone cheer in /map …..

:P don’t quote real world :P… in the real world that one guy cheering over loot would never walk away from the knights corpse with those chests all to himself…:P not with out a militia to back his kitten

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

:P don’t quote real world :P… in the real world that one guy cheering over loot would never walk away from the knights corpse with those chests all to himself…:P not with out a militia to back his kitten

What I meant was that because scarcity exists, thus we need to make choice, and every choice is the opportunity cost of the other. Because we can’t get everything, we just get as much as we can.

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Cyvien.8049

Cyvien.8049

I’m a scholar, thus I don’t take stance.

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Posted by: Charak.9761

Charak.9761

Danicia, I think most of us are just going to constantly make more & more threads instead of sticking to one

It should give insight that your players want rewards more than anything.

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

Tried this “strategy” of hitting the enemy first to be one of the first to tag. Started at Green knight when the events started, fought it with 2 other players the entire time the zerg was killing blue (they were doing the standard blue > green > red rotation) doing damage by spamming lava font and meteor.

Zerg came around, killed green knight, still no loot despite the fact that I was one of the first 3 people to hit it.

I’m not convinced there’s any trick that’ll help you get loot. Its just outright bugged and only luck can help.