Guild Wars 2

We took it back from the Orrians. They should have lit the beacons. Looks like either Scarlet bypassed them using the Lion Arch vulnerability to air strikes or someone fell asleep on the job. So are they safe there or all dead? Someone close this loophole.

More like just completely ignored Claw Island. Think of it as the Germans during the Blitzkrieg during WWII against the French. The French had what was known as the “Maginot Line” which had fort like structures to have a heavy defense against an invasion. The Germans instead just ignored most of the defenses by moving in from Belgium, and swept in quickly. So, more than likely, those stationed on Claw Island see Lion’s Arch burning and there is nothing that they can do about it (Also assuming that the Lion Guard fleet has been knocked out as well).

They have to have at least one ship on Claw Island. Now would be a pretty good time to use it.

it would never get past the drill

And the Aetherblade airships are far superior. I believe that the Pact airship fleet would have to step in. Hopefully, we will see that in the next patch. I would think the Glory of Tyria would make a return to do battle.

What makes you think Scarlet’s things went anywhere NEAR Claw Island.
Her giant drill came from Lornar’s pass and she has extensive portal tech that can bring her minions in from wherever they are. It’s likely she just portaled everyone straight in to Lions Arch at the edges and assaulted inwards whilst flying her Drill in from the north east.

Claw is an island that blocks LA form the sea. Any regular invasion would have to pass there. Scarlet came from above so she doesn’t has to deal with it. Airships are still a relatively new invention.

DragoTheWise.7256:

And the Aetherblade airships are far superior. I believe that the Pact airship fleet would have to step in. Hopefully, we will see that in the next patch. I would think the Glory of Tyria would make a return to do battle.

There’s a point. What exactly has the Pact been doing for the past year? All three of their head quarters are on the cusp of a major siege. They have instant portal access to Fort Trinity. Zaitan is “dead”, so Orr is supposedly just mop up. The combined might of the Pact was enough to take on a city at least three times the size of LA and Zaitan was way scarier than a big drill. They should make short work of Scarlet and all her nonsense.

Miroe.2054:

Claw is an island that blocks LA form the sea. Any regular invasion would have to pass there. Scarlet came from above so she doesn’t has to deal with it. Airships are still a relatively new invention.

This. Even a ground invasion would completely bypass Claw Island and possibly even Fort Mariner.

An air attack can come from literally any direction, and based on the cutscene (and random twitter feeds in an incharacter viewpoint), the Aetherblades stayed at pretty high up levels and dove downward into LA, bypassing any type of defense.

Kal Spiro.9745:

DragoTheWise.7256:

And the Aetherblade airships are far superior. I believe that the Pact airship fleet would have to step in. Hopefully, we will see that in the next patch. I would think the Glory of Tyria would make a return to do battle.

There’s a point. What exactly has the Pact been doing for the past year? All three of their head quarters are on the cusp of a major siege. They have instant portal access to Fort Trinity. Zaitan is “dead”, so Orr is supposedly just mop up. The combined might of the Pact was enough to take on a city at least three times the size of LA and Zaitan was way scarier than a big drill. They should make short work of Scarlet and all her nonsense.

Rebuilding forces, planning next campaign against the dragon, and continuing to clean up Orr.

“Mop up” is an UNDERSTATEMENT. You are dealing with a nations worth of undead at LEAST, most likely closer to two with all the Risen Zhaitan had gained from awakening onward. Plus who knows how many dragon champions left over that they’d have to keep airships around to deal with. Also the simple fact giant forces are not that easy to suddenly mobilize and relocate. Considering how Scarlet attacked the city and took it within an hour, there was also next to no warning. The Pact couldn’t park an army there beforehand (because of mobilization time and/or travel time for airships and tanks) and if they had, it may have gotten heavily damaged and driven to retreat by the sudden attack.

The three orders (which now basically are the back) each run the camps for refugees, they are helping the city out as much as they can.

… Also the simple fact giant forces are not that easy to suddenly mobilize and relocate. Considering how Scarlet attacked the city and took it within an hour, there was also next to no warning.

Yeah, when you have portal technology at your disposal mobilizing is super hard. Just look at Scarlet who did just that. She can mobilize enough troops to instantly terrorize an entire zone at a moments notice, cause she has portals. It’s too bad we don’t have some kind of cheap and effective way to move around at a moments notice too…

Wait a second, I remember some guy told me about these things when I first started. They’re a common thing, that the Pact themselves even place for special insertion. They’re called Waypoints. Presumably, since a random NPC told me about them random NPCs could actually use them. And even if not we will have the main portals to each of the Order bases.

I’ll accept the Pact not being able to appear the instant Scarlet arrives, but they should be able to make the trek to Lion’s Arch of all places faster than they could to battle Jormag.

Kal Spiro.9745:

… Also the simple fact giant forces are not that easy to suddenly mobilize and relocate. Considering how Scarlet attacked the city and took it within an hour, there was also next to no warning.

Yeah, when you have portal technology at your disposal mobilizing is super hard. Just look at Scarlet who did just that. She can mobilize enough troops to instantly terrorize an entire zone at a moments notice, cause she has portals. It’s too bad we don’t have some kind of cheap and effective way to move around at a moments notice too…

Wait a second, I remember some guy told me about these things when I first started. They’re a common thing, that the Pact themselves even place for special insertion. They’re called Waypoints. Presumably, since a random NPC told me about them random NPCs could actually use them. And even if not we will have the main portals to each of the Order bases.

I’ll accept the Pact not being able to appear the instant Scarlet arrives, but they should be able to make the trek to Lion’s Arch of all places faster than they could to battle Jormag.

And we have never seen waypoints used for large groups of npcs, or things like wagons or supplies. The gates between Fort trinity and the orders are not that huge, nor the area beyond the gates huge enough to ferry massive amounts of supplies quickly.

Random npcs could use them, but as shown by many escort missions, it seems it’s cheaper to simply walk. Or as noted, it might be more effective to transport supplies and materials by wagon then waypoint.

Even then there is recalling troops to fort Trinity from surrounding areas, making sure they are healed, rested, and supplied before heading out. Then you have to balance numbers transferred back vs numbers needed to continue ‘mop up’ operations and safeguard researchers in Orr from Risen (or prevent Risen from entrenching and expanding even if their numbers are slowly dwindling).

The Portals Scarlet uses seem to be different then portals like waypoints or Asura gates. Still, a quick deployment would hing on the Pact having a large number of soldiers just sitting around Fort Trinity doing nothing, instead of actively working to take out Risen forces across Orr and in other areas. (Like Tequatl, claw of Jormag, Shatterer, etc.) Recalling airships from all across Orr would take a while as well.

don’t expect the story to make sense. ever play the asura infinity ball personal story? future queen of the world you comes back to kill present you. but if present you dies, then future you doesn’t exist! haven’t you seen back to the future anet?

Yo, Tixx needs to return with his monstrous flying airship and help out. After all, if it weren’t for the merry citizens of LA and all their help (and commerce), where would Tixx be?

That’s true, all he’d need to do is drop a bunch of crazy princess dolls and toy golems and they’d take out all of Scarlet’s troops, no problem.