Guild Wars 2

So yeah, you put a new entrance to the PS so people could get to their story. Great job! One problem though:

The heck is Destiny’s Edge doing meeting in a burning city with a giant drill in the distance and miasma everywhere along with some playing kids and some npcs just standing about like the burning city is nothing at all?

And then there’s the order mentor. I go to meet my order mentor right after and the city is STILL burning! And all the order members are in the burning Trading Post building, I think. What did you just do to the PS, anet? I thought you said you had a solution for this, but it seems waaay too weird to be in LA doing the PS with a bunch of burning buildings.

I cringe when thinking about the preliminary missions leading to Claw Island…

And a side note, back when I did the overlake haven mission as a sylvari, where Mazdak first appears, during the Tower of Nightmares update a while back, there were spores everywhere, which felt out of place, but not nearly on the same level as this Anet. Come on, surely there’s a way to make the PS use the old version of the map rather than have it make no sense? Hell, you can even put a disclaimer saying “This happened in the past!” but you didn’t.

I’d like to see a response to this. This isn’t intended to be an insulting post, it’s more like a “What were you thinking?” post. I hold no ill regards for ArenaNet themselves. The game is awesome, so is the update, but this PS issue really bugs me.

Psst, technically its not happening in the past. Its all happening at the same time.

Granted, it does feel a lil goofy, but their only other option was completely re-doing the whole thing, which means getting voice actors to re-do lines possibly in a new setting, and yeah…just not worth the actual money and time to re-do that content. Go with it.

The personal story uses instances of the live map and Lion’s Arch was actually modified, rather than moved (map ID). They’ll have to put the map back in the game and change what map the stories use.

I just finished a LA personal story a few days ago and noticed a similar problem. At the harbor, a boat involved with the Whispers personal story was intersected with the boat from the karka event.

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Psst, technically its not happening in the past. Its all happening at the same time.

Granted, it does feel a lil goofy, but their only other option was completely re-doing the whole thing, which means getting voice actors to re-do lines possibly in a new setting, and yeah…just not worth the actual money and time to re-do that content. Go with it.

Huh… it’s been confirmed like 100 times that the personal story takes place 1 year before the current LS.

OP report this as a bug, it can’t possibly be intended, not even Anet is that lazy.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Psst, technically its not happening in the past. Its all happening at the same time.

Granted, it does feel a lil goofy, but their only other option was completely re-doing the whole thing, which means getting voice actors to re-do lines possibly in a new setting, and yeah…just not worth the actual money and time to re-do that content. Go with it.

Huh… it’s been confirmed like 100 times that the personal story takes place 1 year before the current LS.

OP report this as a bug, it can’t possibly be intended, not even Anet is that lazy.

It isn’t a bug. Like one of the other posters said, the PS uses the live map for its environment. The only thing that changes is the NPCs and objects you can interact with inside the little area of the map within those orange lines you can see. I don’t know why they can’t copy paste ALL the original maps from the original version of the game, assign relevant PS instances to the maps, and then be like “Solved!” because that would be easy, right?

Hell, they could also just take the PS entrances out of the game world and update the UI to support buttons to let you enter your PS. That’d be a great idea!

A bit off-topic but not totally off-topic note: There are loads of typos in the My Story log that have been there since launch. For example, Armor Guard and Through the Looking Glass both say Tegwen dies, but she only dies in Armor Guard. Seriously, I looked it up, because I was like “She can’t possibly die twice?!” And the Battle for Claw Island description is cut off mid-sentence.

This is stuff I’ve been waiting for them to fix somehow since launch, but they never have. And now it’s gotten to the point that the PS has started to make little sense in some areas.

And i’m not surprised they removed the Personal Story forum either… at least this forum is relevant, since the issue relates to the current update…

ZudetGambeous.9573:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Psst, technically its not happening in the past. Its all happening at the same time.

Granted, it does feel a lil goofy, but their only other option was completely re-doing the whole thing, which means getting voice actors to re-do lines possibly in a new setting, and yeah…just not worth the actual money and time to re-do that content. Go with it.

Huh… it’s been confirmed like 100 times that the personal story takes place 1 year before the current LS.

OP report this as a bug, it can’t possibly be intended, not even Anet is that lazy.

Not trying to be a pain, but where was that stated? i honestly have not seen it written anywhere, just that the 2 are overlapping.

PookieDaWombat.6209:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Psst, technically its not happening in the past. Its all happening at the same time.

Granted, it does feel a lil goofy, but their only other option was completely re-doing the whole thing, which means getting voice actors to re-do lines possibly in a new setting, and yeah…just not worth the actual money and time to re-do that content. Go with it.

Huh… it’s been confirmed like 100 times that the personal story takes place 1 year before the current LS.

OP report this as a bug, it can’t possibly be intended, not even Anet is that lazy.

Not trying to be a pain, but where was that stated? i honestly have not seen it written anywhere, just that the 2 are overlapping.

It’s in the official timeline. Personal story starts, one year later living story starts, a year after that we have current timeframe for personal story events.

(Basically, everything before the marionette fight IIRC takes place ‘last year’ in lore, marionette oneward = current year, and personal story events started and ending two years ago from current date).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Timeline

I’m not sure they use the same Lion’s Arch model, as I did a personal story step of mine during Wintersday, and LA looked normal (not snowy and festive). Perhaps that was because Wintersday just had additional scenery/items overlaid on the normal model, whereas this is a drastic restructuring?

The timeline only states

1325 AE Guild Wars 2 story begins.
1326 AE Guild Wars 2 Living World begins.
1327 AE Present day during Guild Wars 2 and the continuation of the Living World.

The fact the GW2 story begins does not means it all happens in the past…

And wiki is fan-generated content; it does not come from developpers or any Anet staff…
I can create a Wiki page that says anything that comes in my mind, it won’t make it true…

This is worse than I predicted. Can’t even be bothered to insure that the Personal Story takes place in the proper timeframe THEY determined.

Had to laugh in Queensdale today as a villager, once again, talked about moving to LA for “safety”. Also laughed when I got my letter to visit the Consortium in LA. Really? It’s kind of on fire, yah?

Unforgivably sloppy. As expected.

And I see still, that people will rationalize anything. Enjoy your ugly backpieces.

Jocksy.3415:

The timeline only states

1325 AE Guild Wars 2 story begins.
1326 AE Guild Wars 2 Living World begins.
1327 AE Present day during Guild Wars 2 and the continuation of the Living World.

The fact the GW2 story begins does not means it all happens in the past…

And wiki is fan-generated content; it does not come from developpers or any Anet staff…
I can create a Wiki page that says anything that comes in my mind, it won’t make it true…

Personal story begins. I have heard that a developer explicitly said the PACT is in rebuilding and planning phase as of living story timeframe. How can they be if they haven’t killed Zhaitan yet?

BobbyStein.2315:

DragoTheWise.7256:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Because members of Destiny’s Edge are so entwined with your Personal Story as well as the over-arching story with Zhaitan, and because the Living World plot lines are taking place at the same time all those other story threads, we couldn’t have the members of Destiny’s Edge splitting themselves between these other areas and what was going on with Living World. This is partly why we introduced these new characters.

I hope you folks are seriously not considering the LS is happening at the same time as the Personal Story, and this is just a slip up on the post. I also would hope that everyone on the team can get this stuff straight so that this confusion doesn’t happen.

What Regina means is that for players who are currently going through their Personal Story, the LW timeline will seem to be happening at the same time. Technically, they happen at different times in Tyrian history. Personal Story predates the current Living World season by approximately one year.

So when you’re playing your Personal Story and are in an instance with Rytlock, etc. the assumption is that this is happening “in the past” whereas LW events are happening now.

Our hope is to provide better distinction of these timelines within the game, but that would come with the release of a planned feature that we’re not ready to discuss in depth just yet.

Dev post. Personal story predates living story by AT LEAST one year.

Kalavier.1097:

Jocksy.3415:

The timeline only states

1325 AE Guild Wars 2 story begins.
1326 AE Guild Wars 2 Living World begins.
1327 AE Present day during Guild Wars 2 and the continuation of the Living World.

The fact the GW2 story begins does not means it all happens in the past…

And wiki is fan-generated content; it does not come from developpers or any Anet staff…
I can create a Wiki page that says anything that comes in my mind, it won’t make it true…

Personal story begins. I have heard that a developer explicitly said the PACT is in rebuilding and planning phase as of living story timeframe. How can they be if they haven’t killed Zhaitan yet?

BobbyStein.2315:

DragoTheWise.7256:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Because members of Destiny’s Edge are so entwined with your Personal Story as well as the over-arching story with Zhaitan, and because the Living World plot lines are taking place at the same time all those other story threads, we couldn’t have the members of Destiny’s Edge splitting themselves between these other areas and what was going on with Living World. This is partly why we introduced these new characters.

I hope you folks are seriously not considering the LS is happening at the same time as the Personal Story, and this is just a slip up on the post. I also would hope that everyone on the team can get this stuff straight so that this confusion doesn’t happen.

What Regina means is that for players who are currently going through their Personal Story, the LW timeline will seem to be happening at the same time. Technically, they happen at different times in Tyrian history. Personal Story predates the current Living World season by approximately one year.

So when you’re playing your Personal Story and are in an instance with Rytlock, etc. the assumption is that this is happening “in the past” whereas LW events are happening now.

Our hope is to provide better distinction of these timelines within the game, but that would come with the release of a planned feature that we’re not ready to discuss in depth just yet.

Dev post. Personal story predates living story by AT LEAST one year.

That dev post actually intrigues me now. What new feature is this? That post actually makes it seem like they’ve been aware of the problem, and are developing something to fix it. I just hope it comes soon.

Likewise, it interests me. One thing I’d love to see is the “Personal Story” tab having dates on the missions. Aka, first mission “March 3rd, 1325.” etc. So people know exactly how long it took to kill Zhaitan or whatnot.

Healix.5819:

The personal story uses instances of the live map

You’d think they would have realized that if the personal story uses the live map, and they’re always going to be changing the live map due to Living Story, that would be an issue.

Its too bad that the same people who said that story is supposed to be such a big deal created something so very immersion-breaking.

On a side note, it was also incredibly unrealistic for the centaurs to keep doing exactly the same thing in Kessex Hills while what they saw as their territory was being invaded by the Toxic events. I like the idea of the Living Story but I wish it wasn’t just pasted on top of the existing world like so many Colorforms pieces.