Guild Wars 2

Just did it withought getting hit by any lazers or thier aftermath.
Only hit holograms with the proper attunment also.
Didnt get any achievements.

Anyone out there get these achievements ?

On our last run I always had proper attunement and was never visibly hit by a lazer or the scorch marks. I got the In Tune achievement but not No More Tricks.

I just tried it, stopped all attacks 5-10s early and confirmed every few seconds I had the right attunement. I did however AoE the invulnerable holograms, which I assumed might have caused it to fail. Next time I’ll try never attacking them at all.

Never came close to touching the laser. Didn’t get it either.

Update: Avoided the lazers again and got No More Tricks this time. Keep trying!

Something I noticed is, when the "lingering scorch marks" disappear, they don’t actually go away just yet. They stay on, but invisible for a second or two more. So when people run through it thinking its gone, they actually take a hit and lose out on the achievement.

I’ve avoided the lasers in 5 runs, I’ve only attacked with the proper attunement in 4 runs. Neither achievement. I have spent those runs mindfully doing both things, not aoeing, not attacking invulns, stopping damage on everything with 7s left on my attunement, and when the mob was 5% from dead. Pretty sure its buggy in how it’s awarding the achievements. Also had a run where it wouldn’t give me the white attunement on the final phase so I couldn’t attack anything at all the entire phase.

Would like an Anet post on issues with these two achievements seeing as I’m stuck on 14/15 for this LS and it’s becoming very frustrating (I would say screw it if people would actually split the zerg on the knights 1/3rd at each so I could get the 6 min knight achievement, but that wont happen.)

priestizzle.5940:

Would like an Anet post on issues with these two achievements seeing as I’m stuck on 14/15 for this LS and it’s becoming very frustrating (I would say screw it if people would actually split the zerg on the knights 1/3rd at each so I could get the 6 min knight achievement, but that wont happen.)

You do know that dailies count for meta?

Exact same situation as priestizzle. I have spent runs focusing on specific achievements and have gotten neither. My friend has been trying also and no luck. However some people say they have these achievements so i’m left really confused by it all.

I feel that these particular achievements are not very well done. Aside from the concerns already raised in this thread (which are all valid), if you make it to about halfway through the fight with the achievements still intact you’re basically contributing nothing. You’re instead focused on getting all 3 colored circles while avoiding the lasers, leading to basically never attacking because you never can safely.

I think it would be better if there were more red/green/blue circles so at least it was easier/safer/faster to get the right attunement. As it stands now when I’m trying to get the achievement I’m not actually helping the fight at all. If half the people there are going for the achievement? Nothing gets done.

After trying for two days I’ve finally been able to get my “No More Tricks”. In my case the issue was getting to downed state (just like with Marionette achievements). On my last attempt I managed not to get down and got my achievement. Hope this helps you guys

hit once then just stand in the very back by the door.

I just tried it again and got the “Tune In” achievement, but not the “No More Tricks” one… and I really did evade all visible lasers (I don’t know if there are attacks you can’t predict, if so, it’s really bad design) and haven’t been downed the whole fight. I’m 100% sure I wasn’t hit a single time by any of the AEs and did not get the achievement. I guess it’s rng again… or should I really just stand there and do nothing? That’s not really an “achievement”…

Dabrixmgp.4758:

hit once then just stand in the very back by the door.

This is the exactly problem I was addressing in my post. To get these achievements you are encouraged to not contribute anything to the fight. You’re encouraged to just watch your own back for 20 minutes, which likely comes at the cost of actually fighting anything.

The achievement is not bad idea necessarily, but the fact that the fight is so long and one little slip causes you to fail it is what results in situations like what you describe.

Maybe they should raise the threshold for how much you need to contribute and/or have “credit” gradually decrease as you no longer participate (remain within let’s say the same 600 unit area).

Mantis.5793:

Anyone out there get these achievements ?

NO!

Because it’s not even possible to GET this far in the event! Just one failure after another with overflow groups not able to down more than one knight. And if they manage more than one, they certainly never manage 3.

Even on the non-overflow, we killed 3 knights, got in, event failed. No loot. Ppl left the holograms and killed scarlet. sigh

Either way, these achievements are not possible to complete.

Rentapest.6503:

Mantis.5793:

Anyone out there get these achievements ?

NO!

Because it’s not even possible to GET this far in the event! Just one failure after another with overflow groups not able to down more than one knight. And if they manage more than one, they certainly never manage 3.

Even on the non-overflow, we killed 3 knights, got in, event failed. No loot. Ppl left the holograms and killed scarlet. sigh

Either way, these achievements are not possible to complete.

Same thing had been said about previous achievements that required some form of skill. All achievements are possible.

I examined the lazer mechanics for the “No more tricks” achi in depth tonight. Turns out that you will still take damage for a few second when moving over an area where a laser used to be. So my advice it to wait a few seconds before moving over any area where a laser just disappeared or else you’ll fail the achi. Standing near the door is a safe spot from most lasers unless the small bosses start targeting that area or players get kittened at leechers and start pulling bosses to that location.

Confirmed, finally got both achievements on the run where I was not downed. Thanks for the tip Ange!

I keep getting hit by the laser as soon as my load screen finishes every time I step through the portal, right after the third assault knight dies. Am I supposed to wait a certain time before stepping in? Does anyone know how to bypass this? I don’t get any chance to react as I am already in a downed state once I am loaded into area.

Dark Jericho.8609:

I keep getting hit by the laser as soon as my load screen finishes every time I step through the portal, right after the third assault knight dies. Am I supposed to wait a certain time before stepping in? Does anyone know how to bypass this? I don’t get any chance to react as I am already in a downed state once I am loaded into area.

You might want to read my comment in this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/escape/Prime-Hologram-spawn-killing/first#post3723335

OmniPotentes.4817:

Dark Jericho.8609:

I keep getting hit by the laser as soon as my load screen finishes every time I step through the portal, right after the third assault knight dies. Am I supposed to wait a certain time before stepping in? Does anyone know how to bypass this? I don’t get any chance to react as I am already in a downed state once I am loaded into area.

You might want to read my comment in this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/escape/Prime-Hologram-spawn-killing/first#post3723335

Oh, heh, that actually makes sense. I’ll try waiting a minute or so and see if that helps. Just frustrating as I’ve done the Scarlet battle 7 times now and each time I was downed and then dead within 10 seconds.

Thanks for this thread.

I am also having trouble with these achievements – I just got through three runs.

In two of those, I am POSITIVE I should have gotten In Tune. Like others, I am being incredibly aware of what I am attacking and when.

And in one I am pretty certain I didn’t get hit by any lasers.

There are also two other people on my World who are apparently having the same problem.

Hopefully a dev can comment on this because it seems to be affecting many players, and if the achievements are not outright bugged, they are very inconsistent in how they are being awarded.

Did 6 runs today, out of those Im absolutely certain I didnt hit anything with the wrong attunement for 3 runs AND contributed a lot.

No “in tune” achievement.

Others stand afk at the door and get the achievement. This is kittening ridiculous.

If you get downed or die, you will fail both achievements.

For the attunment achievement, I just turned auto attack off, and always checked to see what buff I had, or did not have before attacking.

Wait are people expecting the achievements to work as intended?

ive gotten this…worked as intended when i did what was intended. not much else to say really. OH go hang out in the back of the room where the lazers cant touch ya, easy method if its too difficult to do legit.

I really hope we see bug fixes here. Tonight I paid very close attention to everything, but I failed both achievements. I don’t believe it was due a mistake on my part, but in the design.

I failed No More Tricks because apparently I hit an invisible light beam. I know they linger, but I’m already paying attention to where they are, where they’re going to be, and when my attunement is going to run out. I don’t think we should also be expected to always know where they were. I just turned around to run the opposite direction and apparently hit one that just disappeared. That was behind me. Very frustrating.

As for the In Tune, well I have no idea what happened but as soon as the Prime Hologram disappeared @ 25% health for phase 2 I instantly got the debuff for hitting the wrong color. I wasn’t even attacking anything, and I still had the white light buff so it couldn’t have been something on the Prime Hologram at the last second or something.

I really hope some work is done on these achievements. Very frustrating currently. Not even due to just these problems, but the whole getting hit by laser instantly on entrance as well as not being able to go down EVER just to get the achievements. While some people are going to probably respond “QQ more I got it it’s so easy” I still want the achievements to be difficult, I just want a fair shot at it. I did Liadri, difficulty I don’t have a problem with. I only don’t like when it’s unfair. Current mechanics and bugs are making it unfair.

Another thing I noticed is all of those clones at the very end that you have to explode each have a white buff. If you walk over any of the colored rings then you will get that colored buff and lose the white one you automatically get. This could be another reason some people miss the achievement.

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I attacked the prime holo, the green split and the micros. The RGB split all died at the same time, so no additional adds. I thought attacking the micros might bug it since I had a red attunement on while they’re white, but it still counted. Simply put, there’s no need to not attack at all, if you know what you’re doing.

The laser’s trail lasts for a few additional seconds (around 3) after it disappears.

Most people are going to miss these achievements because of getting downed. You’ll need an invulnerability (or maybe a block) to live through the laser blast during the last phase.

Healix.5819:

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I attacked the prime holo, the green split and the micros. The RGB split all died at the same time, so no additional adds. I thought attacking the micros might bug it since I had a red attunement on while they’re white, but it still counted. Simply put, there’s no need to not attack at all, if you know what you’re doing.

The laser’s trail lasts for a few additional seconds (around 3) after it disappears.

Most people are going to miss these achievements because of getting downed. You’ll need an invulnerability (or maybe a block) to live through the laser blast during the last phase.

Oh that’s good to know that it doesn’t matter at the very end what your attunement is.

Healix.5819:

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I attacked the prime holo, the green split and the micros. The RGB split all died at the same time, so no additional adds. I thought attacking the micros might bug it since I had a red attunement on while they’re white, but it still counted. Simply put, there’s no need to not attack at all, if you know what you’re doing.

The laser’s trail lasts for a few additional seconds (around 3) after it disappears.

Most people are going to miss these achievements because of getting downed. You’ll need an invulnerability (or maybe a block) to live through the laser blast during the last phase.

Yeah the attunement part I’m mostly okay with. I still have idea why I randomly failed it (and the fact that you can’t keep your buff by just standing in the color in phase 2 is annoying) but it’s okay and relies mostly on the player. The bad part is the not going down (which is not mentioned at all in the achievement) but mostly the lasers. If I see one disappear I know not to step there for awhile, but if it just disappears behind me and I have to turn around there’s no possible way for me to know when it’s safe.

just an update

I was able to get both achievments tonight

not bugged

just takes a bit of hard work

Do you get the achievements if the whole thing fails at all?
Because I’m pretty sure that I’m not colorblind and did the right things but well… didn’t get the achievement. I thought this was because of failing it in the end.
Didn’t try on the laser, because I have to reduce my effects to stand the fight at all in the end and well… xD Trying to avoid something you can’t see is a pain so… I won’t try on such silly achievements anymore.

I was doing this on my warrior and there are some traits that make it harder. Damage on dodge roll was ruining it for me. I was dodge rolling through the middle to get all three lights and the damage would hit the hologram and give me the debuff.

I have done this fight about 6 times now, 3/6 times the no tricks achievement was instantly lost due to loading into the lazer and auto downed. One of the other times the invulnerable adds from the multi hologram section mingled in with different holograms so I probably missed it there.

But for 2 runs, I know I haven’t been hit by any lazer or used attunements wrongly, still haven’t been awarded the achievements.

I don’t want to be one of those people that stands by the door…..

I did my best to avoid the lasers, haven’t gotten it yet even though I don’t think any hit me. Half the time though I “wake up” in the middle of a laser on entering the place. They really need to prevent that with these annoying Achievements, don’t let it count when an enemy hits you before it’s even possible for you to avoid it.

Really I don’t like these sorts of “never let X happen” achievements in the first place, they’re way too OCD, where you can do everything right and then one mistake ruins it and you have to start all over. That’s no fun.

I would prefer things like the Champ Wurm one from a few patches back, where you got points each time you jumped one of his ground waves and cleared it when you’d jumped I think three of them? More like that, where it stacks up positive clears, rather than punishing negative fails.

Healix.5819:

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I can confirm that in the battle where I should have gotten In Tune, I was not downed at all.

Serbaayuu.3051:

Healix.5819:

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I can confirm that in the battle where I should have gotten In Tune, I was not downed at all.

You likely hit something with the wrong attunement of just as it wore off. Conditions could have this unintended effect.

Ayrilana.1396:

Serbaayuu.3051:

Healix.5819:

I just completed both the achievements. They work as you would expect, but you can’t get downed.

I can confirm that in the battle where I should have gotten In Tune, I was not downed at all.

You likely hit something with the wrong attunement of just as it wore off. Conditions could have this unintended effect.

I did not. I stopped attacking when the buff had around 10 seconds left every time, and I don’t use damaging conditions in my build.

Serbaayuu.3051:

I did not. I stopped attacking when the buff had around 10 seconds left every time, and I don’t use damaging conditions in my build.

Did any nearby guardians give out Virtue of Justice that affected your attack, applying burning that might have hit after you were out of tune?

I don’t know the details of how this works out, but I am just offering a possibility.

My dumb kitten gets hit by a laser or scorch area at least once a fight, so I cannot offer words of wisdom/advice.

Serbaayuu.3051:

I did not. I stopped attacking when the buff had around 10 seconds left every time, and I don’t use damaging conditions in my build.

Did you stop attacking before the prime holo was killed the first time? Because as it splits, you can hit the R/G/B holos as they spawn, causing it to fail.

Were the R/G/B holos not killed at the same time to prevent the additional adds? I thought maybe attacking the invulnerable adds could bug it, but I didn’t get a chance to try.

The achievement is probably tied to the debuff you get when hitting them without the proper attunement. Watch for it.