Guild Wars 2

The spoiler tag is there for a reason. If you don’t want the story spoiled, look away.

So first, a short story.

After stomping Scarlet that first time, I noticed that 3 control panels behind her corpse become open to examination… there is a hint to come back as an engineer to understand things more fully.

So I come back on my engineer, and then I look again at these control panels…

Scarlet’s motive for everything is in the screenshot.

So it seems she actually intended to cut off the magic to the dragon. Maybe our interference caused the pulse that woke mordremoth

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story? This is not very clear.

We have this quote:
“But I reject that call. I reject the notion that that I must choose the Dream or be lost to Nightmare. The forces that push us this way or that can be redirected. They can be set against one another to the detriment of both, and now I know how.”

But…wouldn’t raising a dragon have the opposite effect, if any?

Cutting off magic to the dragon would decrease the rate at which the dragons reabsorb the magic of Tyria. As I understand it, every so often the dragons wake up, eat the magic of the world to balance the scales, and then slumber. Cutting off the flow to Mordy would delay his return and keep magic pumped just a little more for us Tyrians.

Not really sure that would require a year’s worth of wonton destruction. Scarlet coulda just come to LA and said, “hey can we drill down and cut the flow of magic from an elder dragon, thereby delaying his return?” I’m pretty sure we’d have been on board.

Thus…I think he plan was to awaken the dragon and it would have happened no matter what we did. She said herself that we were too late to stop it The only thing that didn’t go according to her plan was her death.

Disrupting the flow of magic doesn’t necessarily mean preventing it from being absorbed by the dragon. I think it’s more likely that she disrupted the leylines that weren’t leading towards to dragon, thus forcing the magic down the ones that did. Hence “feeding” the Dragon quicker.

We already knew her goal was the dragon, we’ve known this for a few patches (certainly since Marionette patch).

But we don’t know why. Was it to awaken as “Tyria’s new master”, or was Scarlet trying to free and slay it in order to defeat her tormented dreams?

Flissy.4093:

We already knew her goal was the dragon, we’ve known this for a few patches (certainly since Marionette patch).

But we don’t know why. Was it to awaken as “Tyria’s new master”, or was Scarlet trying to free and slay it in order to defeat her tormented dreams?

I think it was a bit of an indoctrination process ala Mass Effect that she got hit by. She was essentially Saren, she thought she was doing the right thing, that the drill would stop the dragon from awakening for a long time…but it had the opposite effect.

On second thought…maybe her goal was to cause a premature awakening of each dragon, so they’re not as strong as they’re supposed to be?

Anyone try this on a Sylvari Engi yet? I’m game to try it just to see if the specific dragon is mentioned.

That is cool how they put in an Easter Egg for engineers.

Naevius.3185:

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story?

That has been my problem not just with villains like Scarlet but the Elder Dragons themselves.

Why are they doing what they do? Are the dragons just one-dimensional Evil™ beings that want to destroy the world because they are Evil™?

They want to destroy the world, great. Why? This has not been answered by ArenaNet and we haven’t been given any indication that elder dragons have any motivation deeper than an inanimate thing like asteroid or earthquake.

As for Scarlet, awakening a dragon makes no sense from what we’ve been told about her motivations. Maybe Scarlet became a dragon minion the second she made mental contact and got converted into another of the same boring dragon minions we’ve been seeing before.

The motivation of every single dragon minion in Tyria is “Obey dragon’s will. Do whatever dragon says.” And the dragon’s motivation is nothing but “Destroy everything because I am Evil™.”

I like the other characters in the story like Rox, Braham, Majory, Kasmeer and the rest but ArenaNet really, really needs to think about what it takes to make a good villain. We haven’t seen one yet in GW2.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

That is cool how they put in an Easter Egg for engineers.

Naevius.3185:

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story?

That has been my problem not just with villains like Scarlet but the Elder Dragons themselves.

Why are they doing what they do? Are the dragons just one-dimensional Evil™ beings that want to destroy the world because they are Evil™?

They want to destroy the world, great. Why? This has not been answered by ArenaNet and we haven’t been given any indication that elder dragons have any motivation deeper than an inanimate thing like asteroid or earthquake.

As for Scarlet, awakening a dragon makes no sense from what we’ve been told about her motivations. Maybe Scarlet became a dragon minion the second she made mental contact and got converted into another of the same boring dragon minions we’ve been seeing before.

The motivation of every single dragon minion in Tyria is “Obey dragon’s will. Do whatever dragon says.” And the dragon’s motivation is nothing but “Destroy everything because I am Evil™.”

I like the other characters in the story like Rox, Braham, Majory, Kasmeer and the rest but ArenaNet really, really needs to think about what it takes to make a good villain. We haven’t seen one yet in GW2.

I find that the dragons’s motives are executed not-so-well. I believe they’re forces of nature, it’s like saying why does a tree grow? Why do people die? Why do plants have offspring? It’s to keep things in balance. Although I have no idea why magic goes high and low throughout Tyria’s centuries, since I see no effect on the world. Maybe their spells and rituals weaken, yeah, but what difference does it make? Is Tyria’s magic the life force of all life, or something more/less?

And as humans and other species with human-like personalities, we’re disrupting that balance of nature by killing the elder dragons. Either they will be replaced, or the balance of nature will stir out of balance and cause great destruction of the world.

Perhaps what Scarlet saw in the Eternal Alchemy was literally the balance of the universe, that the elder dragons were eternally tasked to kill everything on the world so new life can grow, it’s like a forest fire. It’s also one of the reasons how we came to evolve without any significant threat during our theorized evolution process, could we really live with dinosaurs roaming around? I believe not.

What happens if there’s no threat for us? We start to grow, grow, and grow until there’s some kind of threat. In the real world, with 7 billions people, our own resources are starting to go against us, we’re running out.

In Tyria, the elder dragons are our threat, but what happens when they’re all gone? We start overpopulating and eventually create so much growth that new life cannot live properly. To be honest, I haven’t really find an enemy in any game that’s actually a force of nature.

Oh cool, thanks for linking this. I don’t have an engie anywhere near capable of having gone to check that out.
Kind of sucks you need to be a certain class to get the extra data here. :P

Considering her last passage in the diary, it seems likely she wanted to wake up the dragon and kill it with her army. She was still giving them orders while we entered the holo platform, so I guess she didn’t want to just lose it all. Yet.

Problem is, as the plan was growing, so was the dragon’s influence. Possibly to a degree where she was really losing control, even needing to occupy her mind to just think, again seen at the platform.

Oh, I assumed the information was there for everyone. I basically spend all my time as Engi.

Naevius.3185:

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story? This is not very clear.

We have this quote:
“But I reject that call. I reject the notion that that I must choose the Dream or be lost to Nightmare. The forces that push us this way or that can be redirected. They can be set against one another to the detriment of both, and now I know how.”

But…wouldn’t raising a dragon have the opposite effect, if any?

She didnt wanna raise a dragon untill after she saw into the eternal alchemy, and mordremoth called out to her and ever since that point, she had been battling over her own control and his control ever since, hence her lunacy.

Flissy.4093:

We already knew her goal was the dragon, we’ve known this for a few patches (certainly since Marionette patch).

But we don’t know why. Was it to awaken as “Tyria’s new master”, or was Scarlet trying to free and slay it in order to defeat her tormented dreams?

“tyrias new master” definitely sounds like she was trying to bring forth tyrias new master, mordremoth. she was essentially the dragons minion because of his control. gosh i hate these theories that she was actually trying to kill him all along, they make no sense.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

That is cool how they put in an Easter Egg for engineers.

Naevius.3185:

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story?

That has been my problem not just with villains like Scarlet but the Elder Dragons themselves.

Why are they doing what they do? Are the dragons just one-dimensional Evil™ beings that want to destroy the world because they are Evil™?

They want to destroy the world, great. Why? This has not been answered by ArenaNet and we haven’t been given any indication that elder dragons have any motivation deeper than an inanimate thing like asteroid or earthquake.

As for Scarlet, awakening a dragon makes no sense from what we’ve been told about her motivations. Maybe Scarlet became a dragon minion the second she made mental contact and got converted into another of the same boring dragon minions we’ve been seeing before.

The motivation of every single dragon minion in Tyria is “Obey dragon’s will. Do whatever dragon says.” And the dragon’s motivation is nothing but “Destroy everything because I am Evil™.”

I like the other characters in the story like Rox, Braham, Majory, Kasmeer and the rest but ArenaNet really, really needs to think about what it takes to make a good villain. We haven’t seen one yet in GW2.

The way the dragons are described by the dev teams is “forces of nature” like hurricanes, and tornados. etc. That’s pretty much how they operate as well from what i’ve seen.

OK, so I grabbed my engi (and an extra set of spinal blades that was going to him anyway), and went in. Additional spoilers incoming!

There is more info on the other two consoles (I assume it was not mentioned by the OP, as the dragon was the main point): The drill was designed as a sort of magical ‘keg tap,’ pulling out magic from the ley lines and letting it flow freely there. Its also autonomous, and will continue to function even after Scarlet’s death (probably even after wiping everything else from the map too).

My own conclusions from this:
1) LA is officially nuked for the duration. Probably well past LS Chapter 2.
2) LA will probably become the dragon’s roost once woken up. And/or the focus for every other major fight (requiring large amounts of magic) from here onwards.

Seras.5702:

The only thing that didn’t go according to her plan was her death.

That may be up for debate imo, the look on Scarlet’s face in the final cutscene wasn’t disappointment from a foiled plan. I just hope it isn’t drawn out where Scarlet is coming up in like LS 4 <.<

Avascar.9237:

That has been my problem not just with villains like Scarlet but the Elder Dragons themselves.

Why are they doing what they do? Are the dragons just one-dimensional Evil™ beings that want to destroy the world because they are Evil™?

They want to destroy the world, great. Why? This has not been answered by ArenaNet and we haven’t been given any indication that elder dragons have any motivation deeper than an inanimate thing like asteroid or earthquake.

As for Scarlet, awakening a dragon makes no sense from what we’ve been told about her motivations. Maybe Scarlet became a dragon minion the second she made mental contact and got converted into another of the same boring dragon minions we’ve been seeing before.

The motivation of every single dragon minion in Tyria is “Obey dragon’s will. Do whatever dragon says.” And the dragon’s motivation is nothing but “Destroy everything because I am Evil™.”

I like the other characters in the story like Rox, Braham, Majory, Kasmeer and the rest but ArenaNet really, really needs to think about what it takes to make a good villain. We haven’t seen one yet in GW2.

I find that the dragons’s motives are executed not-so-well. I believe they’re forces of nature, it’s like saying why does a tree grow? Why do people die? Why do plants have offspring? It’s to keep things in balance. Although I have no idea why magic goes high and low throughout Tyria’s centuries, since I see no effect on the world. Maybe their spells and rituals weaken, yeah, but what difference does it make? Is Tyria’s magic the life force of all life, or something more/less?[/quote]

Dragons are a force of nature, yes – however I’d disagree on their motives not being executed well. They balance out magic, although it seems that Gods at one point figured out how to balance magic using the bloodstones. At some point I imagine that the Ancient or even the Forgotten could yield secrets to balancing magic without the need for a complete onslaught every so often.

Also, magic seems to grow more/less. Of course this theory could just be the mechanical differences, but elementalists being able to master all 4 elements at the same time, mesmers with their clones/illusions, necromancers with their wider array of skillsets, guardians with their defensive and offensive monk/paragon hybrid skills…we basically have seen professions that are more than twice of what the old professions were. While it could be entirely mechanical, I like to believe the magic-rising lore plays into a bit.

So Scarlet is basically Magus from Chrono Trigger?

With all the quaggan tonics in this story, I feel like Tyria’s new master will be The Mother of All Quaggans. Plus there’s the Quaggan jaws opening at the end of the drill’s business.

I was sincerely hoping the story would unfold as more of a moral paradox like Mass Effect, but I’m starting to suspect it’s a little more black & white, good vs. evil.

I was hoping for instance that all the while we battled Scarlet assuming we were fighting the good fight her ultimate goal was to subdue or even kill Mordremoth. A sort of necessary evil for the greater good or balance. Her ultimate goal being the drill and re-channeling of the ley-lines being the only way to keep Tyria safe, whether we understood this or not.

Unfortunately for us simple Tyrians we stopped her plan just short of completion and by killing Scarlet after the drill was operational and the ley-lines re-aligned she was unable to execute the final part of her plan to control the dragon. And now we misguided Tyrians are left with a ruined Lion’s Arch with a big cranky dragon nesting in the rubble.

Unfortunately I’m suspecting this isn’t the case however. For instance, then why not explain this to the Tyrian people instead of working so hard to release an army and deadly Miasma to kill off the populace and make way for the emerging dragon?

I’m hoping there will be more facets to this revealed in the next installment of the Living Story that aren’t so ‘She was a minion, She was crazy/evil.’ and ‘Good guys won, yay.’ I suppose we shall see.

Sungak Alkandenes.1369:

OK, so I grabbed my engi (and an extra set of spinal blades that was going to him anyway), and went in. Additional spoilers incoming!

There is more info on the other two consoles (I assume it was not mentioned by the OP, as the dragon was the main point): The drill was designed as a sort of magical ‘keg tap,’ pulling out magic from the ley lines and letting it flow freely there. Its also autonomous, and will continue to function even after Scarlet’s death (probably even after wiping everything else from the map too).

My own conclusions from this:
1) LA is officially nuked for the duration. Probably well past LS Chapter 2.
2) LA will probably become the dragon’s roost once woken up. And/or the focus for every other major fight (requiring large amounts of magic) from here onwards.

can I ask why LA would be the dragons roost, in the final scene where you see the line going through scenery etc it cuts through kryta, through the thermo reactor in metrica province and out into the forest west of rata sum where it sinks into the ground and we see the dragon, surely there would be its home.

Illumine Sparkler.6019:

Sungak Alkandenes.1369:

OK, so I grabbed my engi (and an extra set of spinal blades that was going to him anyway), and went in. Additional spoilers incoming!

There is more info on the other two consoles (I assume it was not mentioned by the OP, as the dragon was the main point): The drill was designed as a sort of magical ‘keg tap,’ pulling out magic from the ley lines and letting it flow freely there. Its also autonomous, and will continue to function even after Scarlet’s death (probably even after wiping everything else from the map too).

My own conclusions from this:
1) LA is officially nuked for the duration. Probably well past LS Chapter 2.
2) LA will probably become the dragon’s roost once woken up. And/or the focus for every other major fight (requiring large amounts of magic) from here onwards.

can I ask why LA would be the dragons roost, in the final scene where you see the line going through scenery etc it cuts through kryta, through the thermo reactor in metrica province and out into the forest west of rata sum where it sinks into the ground and we see the dragon, surely there would be its home.

Re-read his post. The drill is like a keg-tap. She just basically released a whole lotta magic in LA from drilling into the ley line and Modremoth woke up because of it. The first thing I’m expecting him to do is get his scaley butt to LA and devour that magic.

For those that think the Quaggans are coming…here is proof!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHuw8W9sMCA

~Milly

Ryan.2758:

So it seems she actually intended to cut off the magic to the dragon. Maybe our interference caused the pulse that woke mordremoth

Nope. She was seeking to cause a spike in the ley-lines, which woke the dragon and caused him to feed off the spike.

Naevius.3185:

Yes, but why? How does waking a dragon tie to her journal/story? This is not very clear.

We have this quote:
“But I reject that call. I reject the notion that that I must choose the Dream or be lost to Nightmare. The forces that push us this way or that can be redirected. They can be set against one another to the detriment of both, and now I know how.”

But…wouldn’t raising a dragon have the opposite effect, if any?

Her journal and recordings state she was battling some sort of voice in the back of her head which was taking credit. In her quest for freedom and knowledge, she became Mordi’s pawn accidentally.

Saveloy.4196:

Considering her last passage in the diary, it seems likely she wanted to wake up the dragon and kill it with her army. She was still giving them orders while we entered the holo platform, so I guess she didn’t want to just lose it all. Yet.

Problem is, as the plan was growing, so was the dragon’s influence. Possibly to a degree where she was really losing control, even needing to occupy her mind to just think, again seen at the platform.

I agree, this is what I got. I assumed the super toxin and super marionette were really designed for a dragon-killing after she woke it up early by disrupting the lines. However, the growing influence of the dragon on her mind which she tried to fight resulted in her insanity and wanton use of crazy violence.

There’s various readings but IMO I don’t think its inexplicable.

A really stupid question / thought here…..

Was it actually Scarlet we killed or just another one of her toys to make us think it was her?

I warned you it was stupid!

Eggs On Legs.4805:

A really stupid question / thought here…..

Was it actually Scarlet we killed or just another one of her toys to make us think it was her?

I warned you it was stupid!

It was pretty obvious that it was actually Scarlet this time.

Ok so her journal seemed to indicate that she wanted to destroy the “voice” that taunted her… but that “tyria’s master”crack seemed to indicate she was working for the voice… or maybe some of both.

So perhaps it started as a quest to defeat the dragon, but she was being twisted around until, in the end, she WAS serving him, totally subsumed in the end.

But she also left a note, on the back of the blade backpack plan, that said “Caithe, you will see, Tyria needs me,” or something like that.

So, I’m confused. Or maybe she was confused. Split personality, played like a puppet, or something else? Or maybe ANet’s trying to pull a fast one and make us realize that we stopped Scarlet from, in her lunacy, saving us from the Elder dragons, or something like that.

Morfedel.4165:

Ok so her journal seemed to indicate that she wanted to destroy the “voice” that taunted her… but that “tyria’s master”crack seemed to indicate she was working for the voice… or maybe some of both.

So perhaps it started as a quest to defeat the dragon, but she was being twisted around until, in the end, she WAS serving him, totally subsumed in the end.

But she also left a note, on the back of the blade backpack plan, that said “Caithe, you will see, Tyria needs me,” or something like that.

So, I’m confused. Or maybe she was confused. Split personality, played like a puppet, or something else? Or maybe ANet’s trying to pull a fast one and make us realize that we stopped Scarlet from, in her lunacy, saving us from the Elder dragons, or something like that.

Simply put, it’s a case of she wanted freedom. She most likely at first WAS planning to destroy the voice, but as time went on she got more and more twisted and corrupted by it. When you face her in the control room, all of her former self is gone. You can see that by her being DEATHLY serious instead of joking, and how she talks about everybody bowing to a new master.

So let me get this straight.

Regarding the ending to this story, Colin Johanson said that 1 in every 10,000 people had guessed it right.

And just about EVERYBODY guessed it was a dragon.

That puts the ratio of people a little higher than 1:10000….

Was he just trolling us? WTF.

EDIT: I just read his post regarding this… Apparently he didn’t mean “dragons” he was referring to people guessing it was Primordius… Nevertheless, dragons were the most obvious guess, and everybody guessed dragons. Still kinda feels like trolling.

PeterThomas.7243:

So let me get this straight.

Regarding the ending to this story, Colin Johanson said that 1 in every 10,000 people had guessed it right.

And just about EVERYBODY guessed it was a dragon.

That puts the ratio of people a little higher than 1:10000….

Was he just trolling us? WTF.

EDIT: I just read his post regarding this… Apparently he didn’t mean “dragons” he was referring to people guessing it was Primordius… Nevertheless, dragons were the most obvious guess, and everybody guessed dragons. Still kinda feels like trolling.

He was talking about an earlier period, and something other then “It was a dragon” in general IIRC.

That explains pretty much… nothing. We all came to the conclusion her goal was the dragon before. The real question is: why?

I still think that maybe it’s not Mordremoth that’s going to be the antagonist.

It’s not that I don’t think she woke him, but I think maybe he may not be the “new master” she spoke of.

In fact, I would laug like a hyena if it turns out his waking (if it is Mordy) is purely accidental in her quest to destroy “something else…”

I get what you guys are saying when you talk about the dragons being a force of nature but building an army and controlling scarlets mind to do certain things seems more rational and something a force of nature wouldn’t do so that doesn’t fit together imo. I dunno, can the dragons talk? I forget if they do or if I’m just thinking of the hobbit lol.

Hermes.7014:

That explains pretty much… nothing. We all came to the conclusion her goal was the dragon before. The real question is: why?

I’ve raised this in another thread in the lore section: Was her goal really the dragon (singular) or rather the dragons?
Remember how Scarlet set up probe-nodes all over Tyria and only the one in Lion’s Arch returned a positive result? She clearly wasn’t just looking for a ley line there. If this was just about re-channeling some of the magic towards Mordremoth, she could have drilled at the Thaumanova reactor, where she knew (as was shown in the Thaumanova Fractal) there was an intersection of leylines. There’s something special about the magic underneath Lions Arch and her schematics along with the fact that it was the only probe reacting seem to indicate that it’s probably the highest concentration of magic in Tyria (and the mists).
If this is true, whatever she does to that magic is bound to have an effect on all the elder dragons and not just Mordemoth. I’m not saying they’re all affected by it in the same way but whatever Scarlet intends to do in Lions Acrh means less magic to consume at least for Kralkatorik, Primordus, Jormag and Bubbles. (Which I think might either cause them to attack or – in a weird turn of events – go back to sleep.)

I think the Sylvari were intended to be dragon minions, at least harbingers of Mordemoth. “True” Sylvari being far more superior and kitten than their Grove counterparts. They also are aware of the true nature of the dragons, who are not malevolent creatures but “necessary” parts of nature (like Galactus of the Marvel universe) and there are ways for the dragons to do their job without slaying everything.

The Pale Tree (Grove) is not unique and its seed was guarded before it was taken by Ronan, its just different because it was allowed to grow outside the influence of Mordremoth.

Normally Sylvari experience a Dream that makes them agents of Mordemoth but the Sylari we know in the game are separated from that Dream. The Nightmare is a corruption leftover from the Sylvari’s intended nature. Its the result of Sylvari being able to tap into an incomplete form of their intended nature but they have no idea what it means or what to do with it so they end up being lunatics. Feral Sylvari in a sense.

Malyck is immune to the Nightmare because its a phenomena unique to the the Pale Tree (Grove).

What Scarlet saw when she went into the machine was the true nature of the Sylvari, agents of Mordemoth. Through Sylvari (ones connected to Mordemoth) they go out into the world and get the other races to somehow bring magic to Mordemoth (various ways to do this, be creative). Mordemoth who had an ample supply of magic flowing directly into its mouth was content with not having his minions tare across Tyria looking for magic to consume. Why waste energy when what you want comes to you?

Scarlet saw that as a Sylvari you’re either with Mordemoth or your “brood” eventually falls to the Nightmare. Scarlet reestablished a connection with Mordemoth in the Eternal Alchemy but because of her “tainted” nature as a Grove Sylvari she was confused and it drove her insane. She did not accept her true purpose and thus wanted to cut Mordermoth off from its life force because she thought that that would “free” the Sylvari. The army she assembled was to kill Mordemoth after would rise to look for another source of magic, probably at the LA leyline junction.

The new masters that Scarlet was referring to were either her army or the Sylari in general (sans the Grove Sylvari because they are basically naive children compared to the ones that were connected to Mordemoth).

What happens next? Mordemoth is going to go a rampage like Zhaitan did. Either Mordemoth knows there is more magic in LA and marches there with his Sylvari crew or he goes around Tyria looking for a new source of magic with its Sylvari Harbingers in tow.

TLDR: The Sylvari (non-Grove) are harbingers of Mordemoth. Scarlet didn’t like that and tried to starve Mordemoth so that she could kill him and “free” the Sylvari. What she did was really really kitten off Mordemoth and now it and its Sylvari army are going to march on Tyria to find a new source of magic.

The disruption would be more like a spike, and not a solid blocking of the magic flow as far as I saw.

Aka, you block the flow so suddenly when it resumes, you have a wave instead of a stream. Of course, it’s MAGIC so we can’t really be sure about how it truly works :P.

I wouldn’t object if I get to kill lots of salad people in LS season 2.

in before a little ghost boy pops out of the ground and tells us the dragons are his solution to inevitable war between golems and organic life -.-

After reading many of the posts here I am a little worried about Arena Net’s future choices.

I sure hope the dragon is not relocated to LA. Everyone is excited about going to the Maguma, moving the dragon would completely kill that excitement for many people, myself included.

ummm… I’m not sure if some of you realize this, but the OP makes it clear that Scarlet’s goal was always the dragon. She also refers to him as Tyria’s new master. This is a strong indication she wants to wake him, not kill him. Any theory that states she wants to wake the dragon before killing it is just bone headed. Seriously, would you alert your target to the fact your trying to kill it? Regarding the statement that you will either fall to Mordy or fall to Nightmare – How? Especially when you consider only a minority have fallen to nightmare and only one has fallen to Mordy, how do you come to this conclusion?

Also, Mordy wasn’t content, he was asleep. He was asleep because he wasn’t given enough magic. It wasn’t until he receive the jolt in magic that he woke up. Your theory runs opposite of the facts.

So Malyck is a servant of Mordy? You say he has a dream that makes him a servant of Mordy? Really, got a link to evidence?

DarcShriek.5829:

ummm… I’m not sure if some of you realize this, but the OP makes it clear that Scarlet’s goal was always the dragon. She also refers to him as Tyria’s new master. This is a strong indication she wants to wake him, not kill him. Any theory that states she wants to wake the dragon before killing it is just bone headed. Seriously, would you alert your target to the fact your trying to kill it? Regarding the statement that you will either fall to Mordy or fall to Nightmare – How? Especially when you consider only a minority have fallen to nightmare and only one has fallen to Mordy, how do you come to this conclusion?

Also, Mordy wasn’t content, he was asleep. He was asleep because he wasn’t given enough magic. It wasn’t until he receive the jolt in magic that he woke up. Your theory runs opposite of the facts.

So Malyck is a servant of Mordy? You say he has a dream that makes him a servant of Mordy? Really, got a link to evidence?

How many people are denying that the dragon wasn’t involved in Scarlets plans? We know two hard facts about Scarlet, she intentionally woke the dragon and she wanted to be “free”. How does she get free? She kills what is binding her, the dragon. Not sure if you noticed but the dragons are invulnerable while they are dormant.

I said the thing about Sylvari either being harbinger of Mordemoth (non-Grove Sylvari) or Sylvari susceptible to the Nightmare (Grove Sylvari). Only Grove Sylvari are susceptible to the Nightmare, made evident by Malyck, a Sylvari from another tree who is seemingly immune to the Nightmare and has no concept of the Dream. A leap but I believe the Grove Sylvari experience the Dream because they are sort of “empty slates” without the influence of Mordemoth. Ventari filled that void so they inherit Ventari’s teaching via the Dream instead or they go feral – the Nightmare.

Scarlet saw that the Nightmare Court eventually wins the struggle between the Dream and Nightmare (remember that this only pertains to Sylvari from the Grove), Sylvari not from the Grove still fulfilled their original purpose – harbingers of Mordermoth.

Also Malyck never experienced the Dream since he is not from the Grove. There is no Dream for Sylvari outside of the Grove, this is no reason for it.

DarcShriek.5829:

ummm… I’m not sure if some of you realize this, but the OP makes it clear that Scarlet’s goal was always the dragon. She also refers to him as Tyria’s new master. This is a strong indication she wants to wake him, not kill him. Any theory that states she wants to wake the dragon before killing it is just bone headed. Seriously, would you alert your target to the fact your trying to kill it? Regarding the statement that you will either fall to Mordy or fall to Nightmare – How? Especially when you consider only a minority have fallen to nightmare and only one has fallen to Mordy, how do you come to this conclusion?

Also, Mordy wasn’t content, he was asleep. He was asleep because he wasn’t given enough magic. It wasn’t until he receive the jolt in magic that he woke up. Your theory runs opposite of the facts.

So Malyck is a servant of Mordy? You say he has a dream that makes him a servant of Mordy? Really, got a link to evidence?

IF she wanted to kill him, that was early on when she was mostly free (and likely didn’t understand what the voice in her head was) As time went on, the plans would’ve shifted as the control became more and more secure. IE, “I’ll kill you!” turns to unplanned “I just gave you what you needed!”

Yeah, the evidence points to the disruption being a sudden blocking to cause a surge throughout the lines, which jolted Mordi awake.

Also, if Malyck was a servant of Mordi from the start, why did he act so similar to Sylvari from the tree?