Guild Wars 2

I just want to find out from anyone who may know about the 3 paths to the temple that start behind Fort Trinity at Thorn Pass WP.
I did this to get the word out .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRX8ratwsMc
And if you had an issue with the adventure skipping ahead with no visible identifier on the map ,basically you have to be on top of the next event before the location is shown .

South path :-First try did defend the supply doylac to Squalls cusp ,then nothing .

Another try I did from Fort trinity then from squalls cusps to the south onto Orr at some points there were long pauses at camps were people think its over and leave .
If you die and go to a waypoint it can take you a while to get back to the fight since you cannot get back without fighting half the mobs on the island .
The Orange ring showing the location sometimes does not appear till you are back to the fight .
From the south we got to Balthazar defeated the boss and got a chest and took control of the temple .

I had a similar experience doing the northern route from fort trinity.

Middle route .
Had issues having to spam map chat so that people didn’t leave after the fight at the dock .
The next step does not appear on the map till you dive into the water and swim out a bit ,since people think the event has finished they leave .

I explained in map chat that the chain does continue and some stuck around .

We swim to the straits to take out turrets ,once this is complete there is no indication on the map were the next event is apart from the writing giving you a clue in the top right corner of the screen which I do not think players seem to read ,so until you swim towards the location there is no identifier on the map itself .

So we take out the mines and again I spam chat to let people know to take the shore .

We take the shore and there is a pause ,but I do not see or hear or read that the pact are leaving to head inland ,so I head south a bit and there is a champion up defending balthazar so I do that, the next identifier shows the pact at the temple ready to assault .
So I force my way through mobs removing every condition in the zone from every mob in the zone and eventually reach the temple were I meet I think ,the vigil at the bottom of the steps .
Ok now I missed lots of steps and start helping them up the steps but they do not move and for half an hour and after everyone leaves they never budge and their moral seems to be stuck at about 20% .

So I defeated it from 2 paths but the final path seemed to skip the middle chunk of events and skip to the temple then nothing .

I love the dynamic events but would ask that the radius of the event identifiers be zone wide to allow people in the zone to know were these events are at .
Or at least make sure that the following event in a chain is visually identified from the location the previous event finished .

I would love to invite players wanting to take part in a chain to a large party so that its easily visible were the bulk of us are ,so we do not have to spam waypoints all the time to get players involved .
Simple invite them and they can make there way to us and leave whenever they need to .
If it is possible, put a message on screen to tell people how many events are in the chain and at what part of the chain they are at now ,a simple 1/10 ,2/10 ,and 10/10 at the last part so they know it’s over also this would let players hunt for the start of an event if they join in half way .

I think the dynamic events are the innovation in this game, but informing players that they are actually a long chain and not just random individual events would help players enjoy this fantastic aspect of this game to its full potential .

Some tweaks to make sure players are in no doubt they are in the middle of an adventure and not just running around bumping into the obvious events at waypoints and staying there to farm karma when they could with a little help be farming karma during adventuring in a connected chain of events .

The fact that there is no replies but quite a few views seems to indicate players are not aware of the paths and therefore cannot comment ,hopefully as players complete one of the paths I may get some feedback.

Today I completed the North path and onto the Temple ,failed at boss ,there did not seem to be enough damage happening to boss as players were being one shotted .

Did the south path from squalls cusp again didn,t get boss down ,players are getting caught in the aoe ,the summoned champion also killed some and took dps from the main boss.
Not sure the added champion was a bug but with the amount of players it was impossible to kill both ,obviously my opinion .

The problem is, it’s all happening in 1st map in Orr. Well geared ppl on 80 lvl will not come here, because:
1. There are no Ori/Ancient Wood nodes.
2. You get down-leveled – less karma, less xp, less money, less t6 mats.
3. Well geared players do not feel like boosting some 70 lvl ppl to events, that will fail in about 50% cases – it’s just more efficent to do Arah meta chain for karma or Grenth/Lyssa/Dwayna for a chance for good loot.

I do it for the fun really ,but as far as rewards go ,the main thing for me is the karma reward to collect the exotic sets of gear ,I receive anything from 351 -378 Karma per event and thats a lot of events from fort trinity to the temple .

The next two zones that have the better lvl items that I assume sell for more since you will not be collecting them to wear ,they just kinda pay the bills when vendored ,do not seem to have any identifiable working chain that I can find .
Since I only do things that are fun ,I don’t stay long in them 2 zones at the moment until the events are successfully chained .
I have been able to work out the whole chains for the 3 individual paths ,but I’am still hindered by stuck events blocking these chains ,but am hoping at some point to be able to link the events leading to the final temple .

I cannot simply run the same event repeatedly I get bored of that very quickly and since even exotic gear isn’t neccessarily needed for anything and anything like buff food is basically useless picking out things to do that are fun to do is what I’am trying to do ,I got 400 weaponsmith and cooking and have not used either for anything ,its easier to just sell the crap drops at tp and vendor the rest then buy exotics with karma tokens and gold ,at 80 in this game nothing you get as loot is usable its just sellable crap to pay for repairs and stuff in fact for what its worth they could replace any level 80 drop with 1s and it would simply save a trip to the vendor .

So if we discount drops and rewards of any kind from any event so far ,fun is all we need to try to find in the game ,which I think taking part in the DE’s has the most potential for group fun ,if and when they work reliably .

I tried a jumping puzzle since I was told there was a chest at the end.
Spent an hour getting up there ,I picked up account bounds cherries ,chocolate and the finally, the chest popped open and I was rewarded with a blue piece of vendor trash .
lol how deflating was that ,after all the frustration with camera angle hardly ever being able to see much ,sometimes seeing my charrs teeth from inside his head ,I was literally looking from a viewpoint were his brain should be ,you can’t get closer than that .
i won,t be going out of my way to do more of that .
Hell If there was an orri node or two up there I would be more inclined to do these lonely events .
I just feel getting a big group of players to work together to accomplish a DE chain is a lot of fun especially when they get em working properly .

Added a video overview to original first post .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRX8ratwsMc

Video of overview of rest of Orr.
Cannot edit first post for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDEGmiBosw

I will add more videos and try capture anything that we can discuss.

The problem is that people want to do this event, but the event has so many bugs that most of the time it is not worth attempting because the event is going to become bugged and stay bugged until server reset. For my server, the event became bugged on the first attempt on the server reset today. Not worth spending time on until Arena Net patches it.

Yes I agree ,lucky they did a patch sunday night that seems to have unstuck the dock start point .
It really is a pity because when I spam chat and get a large group ,players do comment how much fun they are .
I only wish Arenanet could help by making the events reliable .

South and middle are at rally but north event is bugged after taking Brassclaw .
The escort event to rally is not happening .
Did couple more vids though .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrNtV_4sn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRX8ratwsMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDEGmiBosw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqXiL6ZkSko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFfhrIyX3s

Even if they fix the bug, I doubt how often would the cathedral get out of contested state and have the vendor NPC ready to sell what you need. There are so few players in that zone now and most people are leveling 70s who won’t be able to complete it even with 10 people or so.

I have been trying to access the NPC for days and no luck. This is what you see on one of the most populated server (JQ) in US peak hours, I wonder how would it be in other less populated servers. I always see people using map chats to tell you to go there for the event, and usually it is only 2 or 3 players.

They also need to adjust the difficulty to fit smaller group of level 70 players or this is just a Cathedral of Ghosts. It is expensive to travel to check it out, and it may take 30 minutes or more to run there, and even finally you get to say hello to the priest, the reward maybe just an expensive repair bill. I doubt how many would want to do it for the second time if they are not interested in the vendor.

Since I feel that there are no goals in the game only the ones you make for yourself , I have chosen my goal to be to have fun.
The only thing I have had fun with since getting to lvl 80 is discovering Dynamic events and exploring them to find the start and to also see if they lead to anything enjoyable .
Not Knowing what happens next in the chain brings its own fun and completing a whole chain feels rewarding .
What do others do and why?

No need for gear once you got max stat exotic .
Crafting is not needed by anyone to do anything .
WvWvW you are one of a zerg and mean nothing .
Any meaningful spvp looks like it will require real money to enter and if you have a solid group of co-ordinated players who reliable are focused.(not the majority )

Up to now My fun is either Lvl various characters through the content and discover dynamic events .
The one thing in the game that needs crafting ,world completion and a massive grind for materials is a single legendary item. If you want real punishment a full set of armour and weapons all legenday ,personally for the lifetime it would take and the purely cosmetic nature I could not even contemplate how this job would be fun especially since your ability to mindlessly grind is hot very quickly with the famous anti farm system ,They said before launch they did not want any grind in the game and implemented a system to eliminate it in any profitable way.

But on the other hand if you want a legendary item for your fun thing to do then you can partake in the historical grinding /farming ,made 10 times worse with the anti farm system .

A full guild effort of contribution took 6 weeks to make A legendary weapon ,so the nicest looking things in game would only be achievable by people aged 12 or less since they would have the lifespan left to wear a set ,lol.

Overunity.4273:

Since I feel that there are no goals in the game only the ones you make for yourself , I have chosen my goal to be to have fun.
The only thing I have had fun with since getting to lvl 80 is discovering Dynamic events and exploring them to find the start and to also see if they lead to anything enjoyable .
Not Knowing what happens next in the chain brings its own fun and completing a whole chain feels rewarding .
What do others do and why?

No need for gear once you got max stat exotic .
Crafting is not needed by anyone to do anything .
WvWvW you are one of a zerg and mean nothing .
Any meaningful spvp looks like it will require real money to enter and if you have a solid group of co-ordinated players who reliable are focused.(not the majority )

Up to now My fun is either Lvl various characters through the content and discover dynamic events .
The one thing in the game that needs crafting ,world completion and a massive grind for materials is a single legendary item. If you want real punishment a full set of armour and weapons all legenday ,personally for the lifetime it would take and the purely cosmetic nature I could not even contemplate how this job would be fun especially since your ability to mindlessly grind is hot very quickly with the famous anti farm system ,They said before launch they did not want any grind in the game and implemented a system to eliminate it in any profitable way.

But on the other hand if you want a legendary item for your fun thing to do then you can partake in the historical grinding /farming ,made 10 times worse with the anti farm system .

A full guild effort of contribution took 6 weeks to make A legendary weapon ,so the nicest looking things in game would only be achievable by people aged 12 or less since they would have the lifespan left to wear a set ,lol.

If you’re having fun only by doing events that doesn’t mean that everyone can have fun only by doing them.
“In WvW you are 1 of a zerg and mean nothing” – 2 things here – play some WvW first/stop being moron in pvp. 2nd thing – how’s that different from zerging pve boss?

I started gathering mats/money/karma for my legendary 2 weeks ago on my own, I’m like 60-65% done with 5 hours daily commited to that task (which will be lower now as my uni starts next week) – so it’s another thing you’re talking about while having absolutely no idea about it.

Server Vizunah Square (FR) , i’m here for the temple only.
Yesterday nothing happend.
Today,right 30 minutes ago,the pact started their chain quest,and after 30 meters of walk,for no reason,they stopped,and the event seems stucked.

Again…2 week i travl from servers,i don’t pretend to find the temple aviable,but at least give us the chance of conquer it.
I only hope some one tell me “come on this server we are organaizing an assoult” or “come on this server the temple is aviable now”.

2 week….i need this vendor for a single piece.

On Vizunah Square:

Event bugged,but i don’t know how,french comunity managed to aggro an incredible ammount of mobs on all the guards,to kill all the sentry group,and make the event restart.Great.

We restarted the event after 10 minutes,this time,escorting the guards with 15 ppls.
Balthazar defeated with around 30 peoples(half of the group was already at balthazar spot,cleaning the area,and waiting for us to arrive with the sentry group).

We completely ignored the adds(champions) and focused on him.
Balthazar was killed in around 5 minutes,or less.

I still don’t have it clear,what happend( i was busy ressing death ppls,and i was killled 3 time),but balthazar with more than 50% hp in few seconds got killed(while i was downed,so i didn’t see what happened)),like if someone oneshotted him Oo.

Well,i was finally able to see and buy my stuff from the karma merchant,after 2 weeks of agony jumping from a server to another.

Thx to all the french comunity of Vizunah!
I apologize for my english.
Regards!

Hello Nirvana ,
I understand your frustration ,these chain events are very often stuck .
If all three invasion forces get to rally waypoint and you fail t the boss ,I’am sure that you can shortly attempt again from rally .
The thing I do is spam map chat for help once I find out were they are at especially if you have seen an attempt fail ,since that at least shows the mini events were not bugged .
Like I say in the video when it is debugged and working as intended each path would be fun to do ,personally i’am not collecting shards because grinding is boring to me ,but gathering players and working towards similar goals feels great .

The lesson the game teaches me is the same as real life ,enjoy the journey just in case there is no end game lol.

Cisza,
I have asked quite a few guildies and had an in depth discussion on the matter of fun in WvWvW .
I would love to see were the fun can be had since I feel that like many players have said ,this is a pvp game ,but no matter what I do in there even with quite a few guildies that managed to end up in the same zone ( because you cannot queue as a group at all ,so it eliminates organising group pvp ) .I always came out frustrated and with a lot less gold .
I hope this does not come across as being overly negative but if you have fun spending so far roughly 85 hrs in the space of 2 weeks farming for a single legendary and still are only half way there then I can see a lot of fun times in game for you .
You do realise that once back at uni it could be a couple months till you get your reward.
I would love to have the fun in pvp pointed out in this game I genuinely would ,I could list all the things I tried and felt unrewarding ,but here is not the place but if you could highlight some things for me to do I would at least try them if I already have not.

This is the final part of the north path .