Guild Wars 2

right now Tarnished Coast is still having overcrowding issues for many of the meta events for the open world, especially temples, dragons, and any other large chest bosses, many people are guesting to tarnished coast to complete these events rather than doing them on their home servers. This is leading to many people being put in overflow and missing many meta world events. For those of us that have Tarnished Coast as our home server if we wish to be present for meta events and not kicked into overflows we have to be there way before the events start, or have someone who is in our party there way before the event starts sitting there doing nothing.

what I would really like to know is will there ever come a time when people are given an extra incentive to do these events on their home servers so as to relieve the over crowding on Worlds that people have taken a liking to doing these events on?

today was the first time that orr hit overflow for taking lyssa’s temple in over 8 months. so it is steadily getting worse on Tarnished coast. please Anet consider giving people a reason to do these events on home servers and not guest to get them!!! give people more of a reason to stand by their world choices. I’m not asking to punish people that guest for events just make it more rewarding to do the events on home servers, like giving a random exotic on top of the dialy rare or something like that, would help facilitate dark matter as well…. really any extra incentive would be great.

Nobody’s going to guest to one of the most overpopulated servers in the game for that. Your own world’s population is to blame.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Nobody’s going to guest to one of the most overpopulated servers in the game for that. Your own world’s population is to blame.

We have people guesting onto Northern Shiverpeaks (NA) to complete the temple runs that are done. They are done on a schedule [almost] everyday and many people seem to know this and guest to complete it. There’s been a lot of complaints in map chat about it and quite frankly it is [somewhat] annoying. Would be nice if a guest had less priority in a zone then someone playing on their Home-server, but that might be difficult to set-up.

I’ve only been kicked into Overflow once while trying to do the temple runs, but it was entirely my fault. I tried jumping in 10 minutes after the start…I went ahead and moved onto the next zone and waited, but I hope I didn’t kick someone else that called it their Home-server into Overflow for a guest to take their place.

You have no one to blame but yourselves, after many TC players advertised it as the unofficial meta server several months back. Which I found funny at the time because they just wanted more people to come to their server to make it even more popular than it could handle.

Vol.5241:

You have no one to blame but yourselves, after many TC players advertised it as the unofficial meta server several months back. Which I found funny at the time because they just wanted more people to come to their server to make it even more popular than it could handle.

Yep. There’s an old saying, ‘be careful what you ask for, you might get it’. In this case that’s exactly what happened.

saden.6942:

I’ve only been kicked into Overflow once while trying to do the temple runs, but it was entirely my fault. I tried jumping in 10 minutes after the start…I went ahead and moved onto the next zone and waited, but I hope I didn’t kick someone else that called it their Home-server into Overflow for a guest to take their place.

I’ve been kicked to overflow half a dozen times now when I’m usually one of the first into that zone b/c I’m one of the pre-event commanders. (but I disband the tag once the main event starts going just to reduce confusion on the minimap… wish more people would follow that example instead of AFK’ing @ other camps with tags on).

I got kicked to overflow and missed Eye twice now
… which is the event that I personally set up everyday start to finish.

I don’t really blame the players who feel they have to guest though, I blame Anet for not instituting an “Underflow” system for less populated zones. (IE: bring the under populated zones of multiple servers together to behave more like merged Districts used to in Gw1) … maybe if they did that, these guesters wouldn’t feel like they have to guest to other servers just to find enough people to attempt their daily Dragonite <GET>

Same thing is happening in NSP like above mentioned and quite frankly we are getting seriously ticked off. Not only is it a ton of guests, they are starting events EARLY on purpose, so you nearly miss Arah, Grenth, and Lyssa IF YOU CAN EVEN GET INTO YOUR OWN HOME SERVER. This is utterly ridiculous. I posted on this months ago. Solution is deprioritize guests, as in if a home person clicks the zone, the guests get BUMPED into overflow in a last in first out formakittenis simple so simple, same way a WP that is contested bumps you. Or make it so guests don’t get rewards. Or END GUESTING. It has been a year. Go to your “friends” server already and STOP PUTTING ME IN OVERFLOW JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE WVW BENEFITS AND STEAL SLOTS FROM PEOPLE THAT PICKED A SOLID PVE SERVER over a WVW one a YEAR AGO.

Vol.5241:

You have no one to blame but yourselves, after many TC players advertised it as the unofficial meta server several months back. Which I found funny at the time because they just wanted more people to come to their server to make it even more popular than it could handle.

that is like saying you are responsible for someone you didn’t vote for getting into office and passing horrible laws.
no it was not something we wanted it was the actions of very few individuals who promptly took down said posts after being publicly bashed for them.
if any posts still remain it is not from TC players, there was something like 4 whole days in LA devoted to bashing players who were advertising guesting to our server that were on our server.

Although I don’t know numbers I don’t like the idea of going into overflow on my home server because others are guesting and taking slots. If anything people on their home server should have priority in the cue to leave overflow before guests.

Paladin.1279:

Same thing is happening in NSP like above mentioned and quite frankly we are getting seriously ticked off. Not only is it a ton of guests, they are starting events EARLY on purpose, so you nearly miss Arah, Grenth, and Lyssa IF YOU CAN EVEN GET INTO YOUR OWN HOME SERVER. This is utterly ridiculous. I posted on this months ago. Solution is deprioritize guests, as in if a home person clicks the zone, the guests get BUMPED into overflow in a last in first out format, it is simple so simple, same way a WP that is contested bumps you. Or make it so guests don’t get rewards. Or END GUESTING. It has been a year. Go to your “friends” server already and STOP PUTTING ME IN OVERFLOW JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE WVW BENEFITS AND STEAL SLOTS FROM PEOPLE THAT PICKED A SOLID PVE SERVER over a WVW one a YEAR AGO.

oh noes but i really love guesting to nsp for frostgorge train due to how amazing the REALLY SLOW dps peeps are sporting there! It helps alot when map loading is so slow with dps tat slow

I highly doubt guests are causing the overflows. TC has a gigantic pve population. Even on FA which has a lower pve population compared to TC, we sometimes get overflow for Temples/SB/Maw/Dragons. Don’t be lazy and get there early and do the pre-events. Most people who complain about overflows are the ones who only zone in for the boss…….

Mada.5319:

I highly doubt guests are causing the overflows. TC has a gigantic pve population. Even on FA which has a lower pve population compared to TC, we sometimes get overflow for Temples/SB/Maw/Dragons. Don’t be lazy and get there early and do the pre-events. Most people who complain about overflows are the ones who only zone in for the boss…….

no we have a high population of people from other servers, mostly low population servers that guest on our server and have no issue rubbing it in that they are guesting for an easy ride through these events. doesn’t help that we also have websites that have timers for the boss spawns that they are fallowing as well, all they do is hop from event to event on their chars.
there should not be an incentive to do these things on servers with higher populations, there should be an incentive to bring people together and do these kind of events on home servers.
guests wouldn’t kitten me off if they don’t rub it in the way they do, esp if they get a precursor.

Paladin.1279:

Same thing is happening in NSP like above mentioned and quite frankly we are getting seriously ticked off. Not only is it a ton of guests, they are starting events EARLY on purpose, so you nearly miss Arah, Grenth, and Lyssa IF YOU CAN EVEN GET INTO YOUR OWN HOME SERVER. This is utterly ridiculous. I posted on this months ago. Solution is deprioritize guests, as in if a home person clicks the zone, the guests get BUMPED into overflow in a last in first out format, it is simple so simple, same way a WP that is contested bumps you. Or make it so guests don’t get rewards. Or END GUESTING. It has been a year. Go to your “friends” server already and STOP PUTTING ME IN OVERFLOW JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE WVW BENEFITS AND STEAL SLOTS FROM PEOPLE THAT PICKED A SOLID PVE SERVER over a WVW one a YEAR Akitten

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Just a couple of clarifications, because you seem to have gotten things a bit confused.

The primary purpose of having players pick “Homeworlds” was not to ensure a good PvE experience. The intent was primarily WvW driven.

Guesting, as per its intent and very nature, allows players to participate in PvE events, and excludes them from WvW events – working as intended. Its intent was to allow for a meaningful PvE experience which may have otherwise been impossible for some players. Overflows are an indication that people are using it as intended.

So, picking a high population server for a rewarding experience was a double-edged sword due to the fact that not only would you be comepting for space against fellow homeworlders, but guests as well.

Also the notion of prioritizing over guests is just silly with respect to a PvE experience. Each player’s time and experience is, and should be “equal”. Guesting allows for that. If a player gets put into overflow, the implication is simply that another player prioritized being there for that event more than said player.

NSP was never a high-pop server tho :p …go ahead and check it yourself.

But yeah… problems persist. Lots of ‘em. Skill lag… constant disconnecting / Lagspikes (which there’s a forum message right now about maintenance), the overflows, the over-“scaling”, …and on top of all that, I get lots of Crashes too when there’s just too many folks guesting which means not even getting credit for finishing the event.

And yes before there’s any more discussion of it, there actually is a “Priority” system when it comes to guesting … anyone who’s guesting in an overflow knows exactly what I’m talking about if they waited around long enough to get that Queue dialog asking if they want to “travel” … only to be handed an faled to connect /w Error Code instead…

actually right now there is a lot of people jumping to servers that have tequatl near dead or dead. this is causing issues on said servers. people are less inclined to try and work hard and rather let others do the hard work, if this keeps up for the entirety of the tequatl boss week thing home servers will eventually be filled with people who are unable to complete the events (lazy people or people who do not understand the fight or that don’t want to do a specific task for the fight) and people who were able to complete the events will be spread across many overflows or will manage to gather on select over flows to accomplish the fight.

We’re having a lot of close calls on Balth Escort all now because of this.

• Pact is being rushed WAY more than normal when we had more ppl listening.
• Vital & mostly harmless “bait” mobs are being nuked instantly again.
• Even the Subjugators are getting indiscriminately nuked where they spawn by Ranged n00bs who don’t understand how the AI prioritizes range with wells.

But even after we get up past the first 3 most dangerous waves…. There’s also:

• Pact not being healed when AOE’d by Purifiers/Corruptors
• No one waiting BEHIND the pact to nuke the mass-spawn of Nobles
• Very few if anyone covering the areas around the Vet Acolytes with CC’s & slows.
• Almost no one removing burning & healing the Redshirts at the end where Balth’s Fire Rain starts coming down on them (NEED MORE WATERFIELDS!!)

This was not a big problem over a week ago before Guesting started getting out of hand. Now … I can speak for NSP on this: The head commanders are not against guesters. …but they would really appreciate it if more people would actually learn the details of the encounters and change their utilities/weapons accordingly. …Or atleast turn map-chat on and listen to it. If you’re guesting, then you have a responsibility to have map-chat on to hear the advice of the resident commanders.

Thank you. (even tho most of them will probably never see this)