Guild Wars 2

Really Anet? Just really? Can we please get over this trying to do the bloody human female sexy thing on a female Charr. The female Charr do not have breast flesh or smooth flowing arms or any of that generic garbage. Trying to do that with clothing on a female Charr always makes it look terrible even under the best of circumstances. It was bad enough with the ballroom dress on a female Charr over the suit but this? The cleavage opening and skirt just look ugly as sin and poorly done on a female charr.

Can we please go back to what you were doing at the release of the game and give the female charr the same armor as the males because it looks kitten and cool. Let the people play this game for TNA continue to roll female humans and norns. Let the rest of us be free of that and continue our love of amazing well done designs.

I do not know who is in charge of your gem store right now but walk over to their department and give them a disappointed and or dirty look for me because it needs to be given. Another lost gem sale here AGAIN.

Edit: I’m sure Dulfy will add the rest in tonight for those looking for it. However just seeing the female human should be enough to get the idea of what it looks like on a female charr. http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/26l60l/gemstore_update_ancestral_outfit_mini_jaguar_cub/

I mean the male charr get a cool dragon tail ring… female charr get a cleavage hole…. “facepalm”

Logged back in to preview the outfit when I heard Charr get cute little dragons on their tails. Was rather disappointed my Fem Charr doesn’t get one.

I would be fine with the female variant on my lady charr, minus the tiny “boob window” gap and if she got a cute dragon on her tail. But uh… yeah… the hole in the clothes look a bit out of place.

[[Admittedly, while I was long awaiting the release of the item, the fact that its just an outfit means I’m not interested.]]

The boob window on female Charr looks very out of place. On female Asura it’s just downright creepy (Asura are too childlike in proportions. It honestly does squick me out a bit when I see skimpy armour on Asura.). It comes across as a very lazy move by Anet’s gemstore outfit designers to not fill in the boob window. Shame.

Just because Asura are size 0 doesn’t mean they cant try to look sexy~ Find it rather cute on them to be honest. Leave it to the Charr to get a super large dragon on their shoulders though lol,

Yeah on Asura I find it somewhat cute. There are some Asurans talking about more sexy-stylized armour, so in limited amounts I can see this work. But, as every time, I have to ask:

Why do Charr/Asura re-cycle the existent male/female versions?

This makes little sense. Asurans don’t need two genderized versions, but I would like to have a single non-male gender version for them. For Charr, similarly, they should have their own version.
Not a copy&paste of the male model. Or, as in this case, the female one. Or at least allow me to buy EITHER independent of my char’s gender on Asura/Charr!

Carighan.6758:

allow me to buy EITHER independent of my char’s gender

How about let us buy either the male or female version on ANY race?! I know it would mean more work because they would have to redo the male version for the female frame, but some of us want our female adventurers to look like they’re adventuring rather than going to a club.

(Why I made a human male instead of female…)

Don’t forget the clipping issues!

Female Charr version clips with the tail, and Asura clips with some thingy hanging in back

Let’s just hope this won’t become a trend. Nasty.

I for one love the giant dragon. But everything else… urgh…

For anyone curious:

I have to admit, I was baffled by the fact that male Charr get the dragon, but female Charr don’t. :/ Wasn’t getting the outfit anyway, but it seems unfair to me.

Really? Why the hate on options? Some players are really happy the game gave them the option to wear a dress on their female charr. For the female charr that don’t want to wear it, you have literally every armour set in the game.

Why do you think your desire to wear only male clothing is more important than the desire for some players who would like to wear female clothing on their charr? The lion’s share of outfits for a female charr are still all male, this is like a tiny loop hole (that only uses a handful of options) that allows an audience that has different tastes from your own to have something they like.

The female charr still wear entirely male armour models, someone at the gem store decided it might be nice to give the tiniest amount of variety for some players that might not want that. You should support that. If someone decided female humans were all about “TNA” and didn’t offer you any options outside of that you wouldn’t be very happy. Options, even if we don’t have an equal amount of them, it’s nice to have them.

I don’t even know why you’re going on about TNA in a thread about the charr, is anyone seriously arguing that this outfit is trying to show off charr ‘cleavage’? I think the more likely scenario is that the outfit was designed with a human physique in mind (both male and female – charr players of either gender know that even the male armours tend to translate very poorly to the physique of a charr) and little to no effort was made to figure out how to design it for a charr. There’s nothing wrong with showing some skin, although obviously female charr have nothing to show.

From a lore stand point this argument doesn’t hold water. Clearly this outfit is not a charr outfit. It does not come from nor does it confirm to charr cultural traditions. Realistically it’s probably designed to cater to the Chinese audience but in the world of Tyria the closest culture would be Cantha, a human culture. When wearing the traditional clothing of another culture, it makes sense that a female charr would wear the female clothing. This isn’t combat gear, this isn’t supposed to be functional, it’s a costume. The idea that a charr would wear a human’s cultural clothing in the first place is no stranger than a female charr wearing a human’s clothing. They are essentially playing dress up.

I’m all for being more careful about tailoring armour and outfits for the charr. I think it’s something ArenaNet does very poorly and as people in this thread have pointed out, the male outfit’s tail dragon is a rare example of special attention being paid to the charr. While the overall design still based on a human (I dream of a day when a designer really figures out and consistently delivers designs that live up to the potential of the charr) it was an improvement. I think they could have done a better job on the female charr, especially that tail clipping. FYI the male shoes look ridiculous as well.

And can we stop shaming the people who role female norns and humans? You wouldn’t shame a real woman who dressed like that so why is it OK to shame a player for dressing their characters how they want? For all you know, it’s a female on the other end of that character (not that it matters) and you are sending the wrong message to her.

Shiren.9532:

Why do you think your desire to wear only male clothing is more important than the desire for some players who would like to wear female clothing on their charr? The lion’s share of outfits for a female charr are still all male, this is like a tiny loop hole (that only uses a handful of options) that allows an audience that has different tastes from your own to have something they like.

Because the male Charr version looks significantly better than the female one – The male Charr Ancestral Outfit doesn’t clip with the tail (And even decorates it!) and doesn’t have a weird-looking window in the front that is designed to support and show off structures the female lacks. If a female Charr or Asura wants to show off her chest, she just does, not try to ‘hide it but not really’ with boob windows/cleavage (Which doesn’t work without something to cleave)

I don’t think there would be a problem with them using Female variants of other armors (Please leave the Flamewrath, Pit Fighter, Scallywag, and Gladiator heavy torso armors male, though!) – just that Ancestral happens to be the worst choice to go dimorphic on

Sartharina.3542:

If a female Charr or Asura wants to show off her chest, she just does, not try to ‘hide it but not really’ with boob windows/cleavage (Which doesn’t work without something to cleave)

That is true. It’s very much possible to achieve this ingame with a handful of armours which leave female Asura entirely barechested (as they do with the males, and the models being shared), but as you say, that makes sense.

They got no sexually attractive cleavage to half-hide. They just wear stuff. Lack of sexual dimorphism has a lot of upsides. :P
I just wish we had a more unique Asura and a more unique Charr gender of gear, not just copies of the male or (as in this case) female gear.

Oh yeah -another, possibly more subjective trait of the inferior quality of the Female Charr ancestral outfit – It has a skirt (And all the clipping that entails, even disregarding the clipping with said tail), which look terrible on Charr, and the dragon collar is so massive that the textures blur and polygons become jagged.

I’d rather have more dimorphism in pretty much any other outfit.

In my opinion, charr female should get also a dragon on tail. I don’t care about the cleavage hole. I don’t like this outfit, so I guess I will save money for something else

Djinn.9245:

Carighan.6758:

allow me to buy EITHER independent of my char’s gender

How about let us buy either the male or female version on ANY race?! I know it would mean more work because they would have to redo the male version for the female frame, but some of us want our female adventurers to look like they’re adventuring rather than going to a club.

(Why I made a human male instead of female…)

Most of the armors look fine, but I do share this idea.

If I could have the male phalanx heavy armor on my female norn guardian, I’d drop the gold/cash to buy it. Likewise, some armors I don’t mind the female look, but the male version matches my character idea more :P.

To hell with this. I play char in no small part to get AWAY from the disgusting BS that is gendered armor and the difference in quality of male over female versions. Please keep that nonsense away from the species that already gets the short stick in terms of gear. Better yet, ditch it altogether and make outfits that look equally practical or equally skimpy on BOTH genders.

Can’t charr please get the female version of Phoenix armor instead of the female version of Ancestral armor instead?

KorKor.9452:

I mean the male charr get a cool dragon tail ring… female charr get a cleavage hole…. “facepalm”

ikr — smh

I’m baffled by all the hate on the chest hole. I mean, yes, obviously for someone with boobs it’s a cleavage window. But if I didn’t know it was a cleavage window because all you people are griping about it, I would never have guessed it was anything other that an unusual and interesting design for a vest front.

It’s a tiny hold in the front of the shirt, big whoop! Since it doesn’t show anything anyway, why is it such a problem?

Kal Spiro.9745:

I’m baffled by all the hate on the chest hole. I mean, yes, obviously for someone with boobs it’s a cleavage window. But if I didn’t know it was a cleavage window because all you people are griping about it, I would never have guessed it was anything other that an unusual and interesting design for a vest front.

It’s a tiny hold in the front of the shirt, big whoop! Since it doesn’t show anything anyway, why is it such a problem?

The problem is the the male version gets a look that is obviously designed with the charr body in mind – ie dragon on the tail – while the female version is the normal stretched and clipped armor directly converted from the human version that we are use to.

Solution: All male charr outfits can be used for females, too. They’re not that different anatomically besides their faces. In fact, I can’t tell the average female charr from a male one if I can’t see her face.