Guild Wars 2

Well yea, like when everyone has donated enough money the gates will close and every player who is inside a Zone will port out to the gate. After two minutes, every player that has donated atleast 1c and/or stands in the middle will be ported to a random generated Zone(Boss), just like it was with Marionette when we got ported to a random platform.

150 players can’t organize without good leaders and preparations and this is IMO a good way to organize players without them knowing it realy.

I like this new boss blitz and how it is supposed to work, but sadly the zerg-mentality and the farming mentality (Gonna kill 50 of each Veteran) is ruining it. IMO.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Well yea, like when everyone has donated enough money the gates will close and every player who is inside a Zone will port out to the gate. After two minutes, every player that has donated atleast 1c and/or stands in the middle will be ported to a random generated Zone(Boss), just like it was with Marionette when we got ported to a random platform.

150 players can’t organize without good leaders and preparations and this is IMO a good way to organize players without them knowing it realy.

I like this new boss blitz and how it is supposed to work, but sadly the zerg-mentality and the farming mentality (Gonna kill 50 of each Veteran) is ruining it. IMO.

Yep, pretty much agree with this idea.

Personally I see it as a good opportunity for players to learn that you can’t just zerg everything and to practice alternative tactics and coordination. If enough people can get the hang of it there will be more chance of Anet adding more similar content in future.

Also farming veterans actually combines quite well with coordinated groups. Get the groups to gather near where the boss will spawn and they can farm veterans while they wait, so the area is clear of random spawns with the event starts. And then if your group needs to slow down to allow others to catch up, or finishes too soon you can farm veterans while you wait. It gives people another incentive to not rush off and scale up another boss.

I think a system like the LA run would be good at teaching players how this works in a more graspable way:

• Event lists all boss HP bars.
• Each boss has 15 “slots”.
• Without a buff you get from a NPC on top of the wedge (and there’s only X to go around) ,you cannot damage the NPC.

I know there has been times where this event has been succeded but there must almost always be one or a few good leaders.

I think I am just to pessimistic to beleave that people can ever learn to organize just like that… I think it wont ever work… Aleast not until there is a big enough coockie on the end of the rope. And if this cookie where to be gone I think people will turn of their brains again.

There are more than enough people who have claimed the “commander” tag. Time for them to put it to use and organise.

Organizing players is more difficult now, since the Megaserver system throws players of completely different languages together. Most of the players that were in my overflow yesterday did not speak a word of English. Good luck organizing that.

It seems like they can’t come up with a proper way to resolve the scaling issues in the game. The scaling should not have such a crucial effect on the game, that players have to work around it. They should not be aware of what the game is doing to balance encounters for the number of players that are there. And if the goal is to fight all bosses at the same time with multiple smaller groups, then the game should sort that out. It should split the players up in groups, and enforce a limited number of players for each boss encounter. We should not have to do that for ourselves, just to get around insane scaling. It’s bad design. But that’s not the only thing badly designed during this festival.

But the whole point of the encounter is to use the exorbitant scaling to make it obvious to players that they’re doing something wrong. Although I think it’s not the best way to do that.

The scaling in itself isn’t the problem here, the expectation of preprocessed no-player-input gameplay is, I feel. Players expect to be shown an arrow-marker what to do and where to hit, which runs counter to what many more invested players of MMO want from their game, asking them to organize and get stuff done in an emergent manner.

Yes, the design could be miles better, but the “can be broken by players being stupid about it” should remain. That’s the best “soft” way to tell players not to mass-zerg. If you just force it, there’s 0 learning experience, it’s like scaling mobs down to the player’s level instead of letting people die in more dangerous areas.

Evans.6347:

There are more than enough people who have claimed the “commander” tag. Time for them to put it to use and organise.

Well sadly many has the commander tag as a ‘I have had 100g and wasted it on this thing’. Dunno realy, there are also people who uses the commander tag to greif, and those who realy dunno a ducks behind how to lead.

Hmm… Though I have been thinking… The waiting time after the donations is done should have been longer, much longer to have leaders time to organize the map. Becouse now as I think about it, we did manage to organize the lanes on Mari pretty well after all.

The whole endless time for bronze further accentuates that. You are not punished for zerging, you’re just not rewarded for doing so.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Evans.6347:

There are more than enough people who have claimed the “commander” tag. Time for them to put it to use and organise.

Well sadly many has the commander tag as a ‘I have had 100g and wasted it on this thing’. Dunno realy, there are also people who uses the commander tag to greif, and those who realy dunno a ducks behind how to lead.

Hmm… Though I have been thinking… The waiting time after the donations is done should have been longer, much longer to have leaders time to organize the map. Becouse now as I think about it, we did manage to organize the lanes on Mari pretty well after all.

Pop your tag, head to a different boss. The flock will divide, but head for a commander tag anyway. I’m not saying gold is that easy, but it basically boils down to that.

Danikat.8537:

Personally I see it as a good opportunity for players to learn that you can’t just zerg everything and to practice alternative tactics and coordination. If enough people can get the hang of it there will be more chance of Anet adding more similar content in future.

When you want to teach someone how to swim, you don’t throw them in the water and tell them “Swim ! Now !”
That is basically what they did with this event.

A few pointers on how the event was supposed to be done, and some ways to monitor what happens in other areas on the UI among other things, would have gone a long way to prevent the mess created around this event.

In all fairness, it’s not that hard of a concept.
Each boss grows stronger by defeating the others. At that point logic dictates that the fastest and easiest way to deal with this is defeating them all at about the same time.

I might be overly optimistic, but a minimal amount of thought can still be expected of the average player.

Evans.6347:

In all fairness, it’s not that hard of a concept.
Each boss grows stronger by defeating the others. At that point logic dictates that the fastest and easiest way to deal with this is defeating them all at about the same time.

I might be overly optimistic, but a minimal amount of thought can still be expected of the average player.

I am in all favor of the mechanics of the new Boss Blitz, and logicly it shouldn’t be too hard. But it is… Becouse of Zerging mentality thing… For about 5 hours of and on playing there I have never seen even a hint of organizing-
Though I hope that when I log in a bit later (Can’t now) I will see people organizing and proving me wrong becouse I just actually love the Idéa of this event and I realy wanna play it as it is meant to be played. Not for rewards, just for the joy of doing it right.