Guild Wars 2

It is me or I don’t find the reward of doing FotM?

I just want to see other points of view because I really don’t see the profits of doing fractals anymore.

I did Fractals lvl 30. We were 1 Necro, 1 Engi, 2 Guards and 1 Warrior. We were a good party, we all played well (We aren’t the best party, but for a random party was really good). We got: Swamp, Snowblind, Dredge and Aetherblades.

We got really stucked at Dredge, since now you have to do it in a normal way. We did the whole fractals in between 3 and 4 hours, let’s say 3,5 hours.

Before the path, I never take so long to do a fractal, even lvl 48 (2,5 hours as max with dredge)

The point is… In 3 hours how many differents dungeon paths I can do? 6? 8?
Let’s see:
CoF 1 – 20 minutes (It’s a lot but… Let’s say it)
AC 1,2 and 3 – 1 hour (The three paths, could take less…)
HotW 1 – 25 minutes (It’s long too, but keep saying, including the bonus wave)

If we stop here we got… Less than 2 hours for 5 paths, that means 7,5 gold (If i am not wrong)

So… I just see that Fractals now is like a… Mystic forge? I think I have more chance to get a precursor from Mystic forge than fractals.

What do you think? I am too wrong? What I am no seeing?

PS: Sorry for my english. Isn’t my native languaje.

Unless you need some item specifically available in fractals, there isn’t. People don’t run fractals to make gold.

I play fractals to…

Wait for it… i’m going to blow your mind:

TO PLAY FRACTALS!

The rewards are fluffy things to keep me entertained. Seriously does it ever occurs that too much min/maxing and fine tuning to get the most… reward? Gold, skill points, karma points, agony resist, tokens, glory or whatever, ends up detracting you from enjoying the game?

I know my post is boderline philosophical or how you want to label it, but some complaints are just too much sometimes…

Ariete.6509:

I play fractals to…

Wait for it… i’m going to blow your mind:

TO PLAY FRACTALS!

The rewards are fluffy things to keep me entertained. Seriously does it ever occurs that too much min/maxing and fine tuning to get the most… reward? Gold, skill points, karma points, agony resist, tokens, glory or whatever, ends up detracting you from enjoying the game?

I know my post is boderline philosophical or how you want to label it, but some complaints are just too much sometimes…

I wasn’t complaining. I enjoyed fractals and I will enjoy them as I enjoyed it the last run I did.

I play fractals only when I want as always, not for drops. Btw, I like the challenges and now it’s more challenger.

I want to see why the people play them, if it is just for fun or another reasons like… Get a fractal skin.

I play because fractals are fun. Although I also have “wants”, like the drops, achivs, some g, or fractal levels.

Honestly, I think ppl play for a bit of both. Fun + other goals.

thewamba.5203:

I play because fractals are fun. Although I also have “wants”, like the drops, achivs, some g, or fractal levels.

Honestly, I think ppl play for a bit of both. Fun + other goals.

I wish more people on the forums realized these two are not mutually exclusive.

I find fractal runs enjoyable and I prefer to have a challenge in my dungeons, even if it prevents me from completing it.

So…not a waste of time for me. =P

Fractal lovers invest in the gold/time sink that FoM truly is, for no feasible reason. They like the run, that is it. The resources/time coin laurals or w.e used for AR that is needed NOWHERE else in the game ensure making a profit in FoM on a regular basis is a no go considering other dungeons & content available require very little time commitment & zero financial investment to accomplish for the same or better rewards (FoM wep skins & endless tonics are not real rewards lol)
. A player makes more coin taking their lvl 80 to a lvl 5 zone & killing little mobs for 1.5 hrs than they do stuck in a sloppy FoM for 2+ hrs. It is a sad truth for those of us who enjoy FoM, we sacrifice a lot of other game content, time & coin to play it beyond lvl 10

JMar.3254:

Yes it’s a waste. Your level will be reset next year.

This.

I’m also afraid knowing that ANET is willing to reset our progress at will, with not so much as a reasonable explanation. Any progress we make in anything can now be reset at any time they feel it’s convenient for them.

If there’s an expansion and character levels are raised to 90, will all our level 80s be reset to 50 so we start on “equal footing” with people who never bothered to level to 80?

New items released! Reset everybody to 20 gold so they’re all on “equal footing” in their quest to acquire them.

New karma items! Reset everybody to 100,000 karma for “equal footing”!

there is absolutely no point running fractals unless you want weapons that’s it

kittenty rewards, even more time consumming, really frustrating… i am about to quit this game and i actually used to enjoy fractals to extend

idk wth they did to loot, even for fractal it used to be way better… now i get 3 greens at the end and that 1 gold… before i would get exotics and rares….

Greetings professor Falken….

“The only winning move is not to play.”

I found it was a cheaper alternative to getting some nice 20 slot bags amongst other things that cost quite a bit of coin.

Fractal chests seem to give better chances of giving rares/exotics than dungeon chests. The relics are useful for obsidian shards, 20-slot bags, ascended backpiece, and of course, ascended rings.

I actually do play fractals for the rewards. Dungeons are a source of gold only, but the RNG drops and just better loot overall keeps me coming back to FOTM.

Tachii.3506:

Fractal chests seem to give better chances of giving rares/exotics than dungeon chests. The relics are useful for obsidian shards, 20-slot bags, ascended backpiece, and of course, ascended rings.

I actually do play fractals for the rewards. Dungeons are a source of gold only, but the RNG drops and just better loot overall keeps me coming back to FOTM.

i got greens and very few rares so far from all fractals i done after patch…and box gilded box of course = another green lol

I am just starting my second stack of pristine tokens. The best item I have ever gotten from fractals, value-wise, was a piece of Zho’s and a piece of Aidan’s armor. The rewards from Fractals are absurd.

If you get Dredge Fractal, then it’s a waste of time. Else it is great

For me FotM are way better than dungeons.
Why?
First of all: I enjoy doing them. Don’t know why but I like them way more than dungeons.
Another point is the loot. Yeah, it may be RNG but I still have the feeling that I have more rares/exotics/T6 mats as I get from dungeons.
And there is also the Relics/ Karma stuff on the other hand.
If you compare the gold reward dungeons are the way to go but overall I feel like there is no big difference when selling the mats you get from salvaging etc.

it is a waste of time they have 0 account bound rewards that are for sure.. it’s just rng .. like mystic Toilette with low Money rewards .. and your Progress is as RNG as well since it can be resetted by anet rng whenever they want

I was gonna ask the same thing. I was only doing fractals recently for the achievement, but even after the “improvements” I don’t see any point in doing it after getting the ring/backpiece.

And so I wonder even more, why is Agony Resistance infusion SO kittening expensive?!

Yeah, Fractals are a waste, but there really isn’t anything they could add that would make them worth running, they just take way too much time. The solution is to make them take less time per run.

to get Ascended rings/back and 20 slot bags.

As with all repetitive content in MMO’s, there needs to be something besides the content itself as a draw for people to repeat it over and over. For some, the skins are the carrot, for others, it will be the leader board, for others still it’s the challenge. There really isn’t much content outside of PvP that’s harder. However, since the skins won’t appeal to everyone, leader boards are likely to matter only to the dedicated, and not everyone wants hard content, FotM is not for everyone.

everybody that says theres no point in resetting of the levels. hey…im kitten ed too, i was level 63 and it sucks yah. but yes theres a point. all the new content and new debuffs make for a different fractal experience. its kinda like we are in second generation of fractals. or 3rd or 4th…however u wanna look at it. but still. for sure reason to reset.

ps…leaderboards? LOL really? how bout we get a leaderboard for who can pick up a crystal the fastest at Maw. cuz i know its not me. what is with that terribleness? so tired of standing on a crystal and having to press F thirty times only to die as i lazily bend over to pick it up.