Guild Wars 2

now:
WvW: for WvW hardcore players.
PvP: for PvP hardcore players.
Achievement: for players who are doing everything possibly(e.g. living story).

Upcoming Changes for the Fractals of the Mists:
FOTM should have a leaderboard for (LEVEL, %) competitions.

FOTM leaderboards make no sense witht the max level of 50. (they want to increase it in “the future”)

It is like introducing a cap for achievement points you can earn for dailies and monthlies.
Then wait like 10 month and increase the cap. (not granting any points a player earned after reaching the cap)

Freezing the progress of the best/hardcore gamers so everyone else can catch up?

crouze.3078:

(they want to increase it in “the future”)

Chances are they will just reset your level again. That’s truly an unlimited dungeon.

With all of the controversy around this whole leaderboard and reset thing, and the silence regarding what may or may not be done about it… it would be nice if maybe we at least got some info on what the leaderboards (the reason us 30+ folk are bumped down) are supposed to include?

I mean I don’t like the lack of answers any more than the next person, but I understand why it might be hard to give us an answer right now if its still in discussion. But an answer on form leaderboard information maybe?

Lindelle.3718:

With all of the controversy around this whole leaderboard and reset thing, and the silence regarding what may or may not be done about it… it would be nice if maybe we at least got some info on what the leaderboards (the reason us 30+ folk are bumped down) are supposed to include?

I mean I don’t like the lack of answers any more than the next person, but I understand why it might be hard to give us an answer right now if its still in discussion. But an answer on form leaderboard information maybe?

If it’s still in discussion then it should have never been released.

If it’s now back in discussion because of our complaints, then they should tell us that and hold one of their oh so famous CDIs.

Lindelle.3718:

With all of the controversy around this whole leaderboard and reset thing, and the silence regarding what may or may not be done about it… it would be nice if maybe we at least got some info on what the leaderboards (the reason us 30+ folk are bumped down) are supposed to include?

I mean I don’t like the lack of answers any more than the next person, but I understand why it might be hard to give us an answer right now if its still in discussion. But an answer on form leaderboard information maybe?

The lack of answers is there because there is none. If there were legitimate reasons behind it all along with any kind of compensation, those answers would be thrown at us the second the questions came up to calm the community down rather than rally everyone up. As far as we know they saw the amount of fractal players speaking their minds on forums and went with it. Which from what I seen in the past, most posts were concerned around complaining about having to level each character than level being handed to them like allowance to a kid that did nothing to deserve it and complains how hard fractals is. Pretty much whine, whine, whine, level, whine.

The reason behind reset is “you get to be on equal footing with everyone else. Yay!”. If I wanted to be with equal footing with everyone else I wouldn’t be playing fractals, like everyone else. I don’t want to be equal footing with everyone else that didn’t work anywhere near as hard as me to get where I am. It’s like giving taking everyone’s legendary away and resetting the gold to even number for everyone to be on equal footing.

As of right now we have been shown basic characteristic of a person that did something drastic and didn’t realize that it would backfire with people that were (up until now) very quiet and passive about their personal experience. It’s almost like car salesman trying to sell us a car we don’t want. They realized by now that whatever the leaderboard information they’ll throw at us will not be sufficient for any of us to justify the reset. Now that they look back at it, they realized it themselves. That’s why they’re staying quiet till the patch is released. At that point they’ll go: “well it’s too late now”.

I guess I felt the opposite. As in, if nothing was up in the air and what’s done is done, they would just tell us so we aren’t constantly asking about it. No answers and “were reading and gathering feedback” to me says that maybe there will be something small changed. Maybe just a little reward chest compensation or something. Of course I’m probably just being naive and you’re right, its already over. :p

Lindelle.3718:

I guess I felt the opposite. As in, if nothing was up in the air and what’s done is done, they would just tell us so we aren’t constantly asking about it. No answers and “were reading and gathering feedback” to me says that maybe there will be something small changed. Maybe just a little reward chest compensation or something. Of course I’m probably just being naive and you’re right, its already over. :p

and why not just letting us know… 1 sentence : We are currently working out rewards as compensation for the lost Progress

at least we know that they than even consider it… look it is friday last day of work there will be nothing going on on Weekend and monday is alreaddy prepatchday where they don’t want to Change to many things… so it seems for me as if they ’re just sitting it out.

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Lindelle.3718:

I guess I felt the opposite. As in, if nothing was up in the air and what’s done is done, they would just tell us so we aren’t constantly asking about it. No answers and “were reading and gathering feedback” to me says that maybe there will be something small changed. Maybe just a little reward chest compensation or something. Of course I’m probably just being naive and you’re right, its already over. :p

and why not just letting us know… 1 sentence : We are currently working out rewards as compensation for the lost Progress

at least we know that they than even consider it… look it is friday last day of work there will be nothing going on on Weekend and monday is alreaddy prepatchday where they don’t want to Change to many things… so it seems for me as if they ’re just sitting it out.

Since that sentence was not written… Since nothing was really written about the issue. And nothing has even sightly hinted at any kind of rework, we can just forget about it at this point. I’m just wondering what’s the next thing they have in their agenda… WvW level reset? Achievement score reset? So everyone can start at equal footing?

Romo.3709:

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Lindelle.3718:

I guess I felt the opposite. As in, if nothing was up in the air and what’s done is done, they would just tell us so we aren’t constantly asking about it. No answers and “were reading and gathering feedback” to me says that maybe there will be something small changed. Maybe just a little reward chest compensation or something. Of course I’m probably just being naive and you’re right, its already over. :p

and why not just letting us know… 1 sentence : We are currently working out rewards as compensation for the lost Progress

at least we know that they than even consider it… look it is friday last day of work there will be nothing going on on Weekend and monday is alreaddy prepatchday where they don’t want to Change to many things… so it seems for me as if they ’re just sitting it out.

Since that sentence was not written… Since nothing was really written about the issue. And nothing has even sightly hinted at any kind of rework, we can just forget about it at this point. I’m just wondering what’s the next thing they have in their agenda… WvW level reset? Achievement score reset? So everyone can start at equal footing?

actually it is a Money reset : IT’s called the skritt burglars

and you will know what ppl are ok with it.. they will post on the Forums: Anet never intended you to get more than 30 Gold.. so why you think you deserve all Gold more than 30 Gold if they never stated that you should get more than 30 ?

you really think you will stand a Chance arguing against that?
I mean there is NO PROOVE that anet intended you to have more than 30 Gold…so they havven’t intended it!

This update would be amazing and was something all of us Fractal players were looking forward to with the omission of 2 things: Leaderboards and reset.

I for one am super excited for the new fractals. I am leery of the instabilities. I am hopeful the issues that the community has been rightfully complaining about and reporting for almost a year (Harpy Invuln. Terrible AoE circles from harpies on platforms etc.) will get fixed. I am hopeful the Dredge Fractal will be brought in line with the others.

I just don’t understand how the devs thought we would all be cool with a reset. “I am gonna go reset my D&D group’s progress. I am sure they will all appreciate that.”

I want to know what the thinking behind it was. It’s a head scratcher.

Iason Evan.3806:

This update would be amazing and was something all of us Fractal players were looking forward to with the omission of 2 things: Leaderboards and reset.

I for one am super excited for the new fractals. I am leery of the instabilities. I am hopeful the issues that the community has been rightfully complaining about and reporting for almost a year (Harpy Invuln. Terrible AoE circles from harpies on platforms etc.) will get fixed. I am hopeful the Dredge Fractal will be brought in line with the others.

I just don’t understand how the devs thought we would all be cool with a reset. “I am gonna go reset my D&D group’s progress. I am sure they will all appreciate that.”

I want to know what the thinking behind it was. It’s a head scratcher.

This update would have been amazing if they just left most of things alone. Added the maps, revamped the rewards, did what they did with agony (even though i think they’re making it more complicated that it needs to be), left the progression character bound and most of all open up next 20-30 levels after 50. The possibility with fractals is unlimited, but for some reason they’re caging themselves withing the first 50 levels. Just open it up and keep going. Don’t take a huge step back…

The leaderboard might mean something if they make 45+ kittening hard so that only a small percent of people can complete it….

Stonecaduceus.5638:

The leaderboard might mean something if they make 45+ kittening hard so that only a small percent of people can complete it….

They specifically said that the curve up to 50 will be easier, so yeah… Leaderboards make very little sense…

Not really just kitten ed that maul at 50 is 2 hitting all squads I bring to it at 50 with 55AR. They removed rez trick so you take Agony when you rez so fail maul = failed run at high levels.

Stonecaduceus.5638:

The leaderboard might mean something if they make 45+ kittening hard so that only a small percent of people can complete it….

45+ … that makes 6 levels to compete with others…

And i know that there wont be a single player reaching lvl 50 alone…
So there will be at least 5 players at rank 1… stupid?

This is caca. You know what achievement boards are? A place to spot the most notorious cheaters. That is all. Achievement leaders: ppl who will go to any macro/scripting/botting length to achieve a score. For example: Weapon Mastery on every weapon is achieved by afking with a macro.

PvP Leader board: Plagued with people who buy multiple accounts and fight themselves in PvP. Nice going.

WvW Leader Board: Who knows what kind of farming these people do, but they do.

And now Fractals? I cannot wait to see what kind of caca they come up with.

PS. I know not every person in those leader boards is a cheater. But many are.

Asia Skyly.7198:

This is caca. You know what achievement boards are? A place to spot the most notorious cheaters. That is all. Achievement leaders: ppl who will go to any macro/scripting/botting length to achieve a score. For example: Weapon Mastery on every weapon is achieved by afking with a macro.

PvP Leader board: Plagued with people who buy multiple accounts and fight themselves in PvP. Nice going.

WvW Leader Board: Who knows what kind of farming these people do, but they do.

And now Fractals? I cannot wait to see what kind of caca they come up with.

PS. I know not every person in those leader boards is a cheater. But many are.

PvP leader boards: It’s only for arena. So you can’t fight against your own account since it has a match making system

WvW: its not player but server based… so there is no real point farming. You could sabotage the enemy server with taking all the supply from towers and stuff…