Fractal Lvl 43: Shaman - How?

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Posted by: Huddi.8297

Huddi.8297

My group and me just tried to do a fractal lvl 43. We had the following picks:

1st fractal: swamp – no problem
2nd fractal: ascalon – no problem
3rd fractal: shaman

While some fractals might be quite easy with the instability (Combat is agonizing. Get a kill for relief.) , we desperately tried to figure out any way to kill this fractal’s end boss. Killing the elementals simply kills you and there is no way to survive without killing them.

Has anyone managed to defeat the shaman on 43 so far? If so, how did you do it? If you had the same issues, please answer or like the post. Either I am simply too dumb or the elementals are just way too hard (the only solution that I see is to spam elemental powder but that can’t be intended by the developper).

@Arenanet: Did you try to fight against the shaman on this particular level? How are we meant to defeat the waves of elementals?

Thank you for reading.
A loyal fan

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

They didn’t test anything… Mai is the proof heh

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Posted by: eekzie.5640

eekzie.5640

Probably the toughest fight I’ve had.

What worked for our group was

- Mesmer with illusions (doesn’t trigger instability)
- 3 Warriors to suicide kill most of the lava elementals (with war banners)
- 1 Guardian for reflect + survivability

It was probably the hardest encounter I’ve had so far.

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Posted by: IceVyper.6810

IceVyper.6810

I wonder if anyone has made it without having 3 party members fully dead after each elemental wave. I’m pretty sure that this fractal hasnt been tested on this particular difficilty. And using warriors as meat shield from the elementals cannot be the way this instability was planned to be dealed with.

I am happy my friends made it but I doubt any of us will be replaying level 43.

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Posted by: Konu.1826

Konu.1826

This situation is a good example of how instabilities promote the luck factor in fractals. It is doable but one of the hardest if not hardest instability/fractal composition at the moment, I believe.

Projectile absorption skills would be strong for this fight since reflects can get their caster killed rapidly. Also mesmer illusions do not trigger instability as eekzie said, so mesmer if a stong pick for this fight. Try to take advantage of projectile cover offered by warden, that is probably the only reflect across professions that won’t hurt players.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

well at least i know what level to avoid at all costs~

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Posted by: Naru.4521

Naru.4521

They didn’t test anything… Mai is the proof heh

Aetherblade boss fractal is kitten easy.

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Posted by: CptAurellian.9537

CptAurellian.9537

Yeah, Mai is, in principle, pretty easy. However, as far as I got it, it was (and is? have they fixed it?) technically impossible to kill her at level 37.

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Posted by: eekzie.5640

eekzie.5640

Yeah, Mai is, in principle, pretty easy. However, as far as I got it, it was (and is? have they fixed it?) technically impossible to kill her at level 37.

They ’’fixed’’ it. She can still regen to100% hp, although she will not start bombaring at 75% every time. She will only bombard when she was supposed to.

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Posted by: Nick.6972

Nick.6972

Try 5 Guardians.
Easy mode.

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Posted by: IceVyper.6810

IceVyper.6810

Try 5 Guardians.
Easy mode.

Not easy at all since you reflect yourself to death and don’t do enough damage to kill the elementals. Easiest would be with many mesmers using clones, however not everyone can assembly a party of enough mesmers with enough AR.

For the laughs I relogged from my guardian on a rabid necro with huge condition damage. The conditions didn’t seem to be affected too much by the instability so we got the shaman to the first wave of elementals pretty fast. Then using plague form or death shroud 4 instantly downed me.

I am thinking that using minions would have the same effect as clones…but then there would be no reflects. Not going to test it out as I am never doing 43 again.

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Posted by: fictitiousacct.1782

fictitiousacct.1782

try using fire element powders or pets to kill? Mesmer can trait to projectile skills reflect for an additional skill to reflect too. While there are work-around solutions, I do wonder what the developer’s intent was for this fractal. Definitely anet needs to address the problems being found within instabilities.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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We did it by using a mesmer to solo trigger the shield phases with phantasms (doesnt trigger bloodlust on mesmer). Then we burst the eles with guard using shield of avenger, 2 warriors bursting as much as they could and then me going rampager necro and epidemic + well of darkness to nuke. The final shield was incredibly painful and involved a lot of kiting of eles and if we had bad luck it would cause a wipe cause we couldnt kite them long enough for bloodlust to reset. The advantage of a condi necro in this instastability is you can burst some bleeds and epidemic and then leave them to tick while you wait for bloodlust to reset.

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Posted by: Huddi.8297

Huddi.8297

Thank you for all your answers.
Still, I am quite sure that this difficulty and indirect obligation to chose specific classes was not intended. It would be very nice to get a statement by a dev.
I’d also be happy with a “Nope, it works the way we want it to work. Just try harder and use your brain.” but I just wanna know.

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Posted by: Lamir.6702

Lamir.6702

It would be very nice to get a statement by a dev.

That’s a tall order.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

43 and 44 are challenging fractals, some shards being particularly grueling. For the Shaman in particular…

Normal strategy is to use reflects and burst the elementals down quickly during each transition. In this mistlock the best strategy for the transition is to kite the elementals through aoe while maintaining reflects. Warrior longbow firefields, necro wells/marks, staff ele meteor shower/lava font. Take it slower and play safe and smart.

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Posted by: Chabo.7498

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When I rolled this we used two guardians two warriors and an ele. Using staff chill on the shaman during bubble phase gave us enough time to burst half the elementals in the guardian shields. You can use wall of reflection once the majority of eles are down so the damage is minor. We had to have two players attacking and two kiting mobs then swapping to reset the bloodlust which I think was around 15 seconds.

It was definitely the hardest thing I have done in fractals and we never considered using condition bombs. Now that many players have 50 unlocked, people have the luxury of skipping 43 and facing the same problem you had.

Roaming/Raid Mesmer

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Posted by: Spoj The Second.7680

Spoj The Second.7680

43 and 44 are challenging fractals, some shards being particularly grueling. For the Shaman in particular…

Normal strategy is to use reflects and burst the elementals down quickly during each transition. In this mistlock the best strategy for the transition is to kite the elementals through aoe while maintaining reflects. Warrior longbow firefields, necro wells/marks, staff ele meteor shower/lava font. Take it slower and play safe and smart.

When I used wells I killed myself almost instantly. Marks are pretty safe and condi spam with epidemic works nicely. Also our guard kept killing himself with WoR so we scrapped reflects and only took projectile blocks.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

By “reflects” I meant SoA and Swirling Winds rather than WoR but I should have been more clear since those aren’t actually reflects.

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Posted by: BaconCatTheGreasy.9542

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The simple answer is just don’t do it. Find someone to open a easier one and skip it.

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Posted by: Seveleniumus.5973

Seveleniumus.5973

5 rangers attacking with pets only?

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Posted by: Stinson.5972

Stinson.5972

I hate to say it because I agree some of the instabilities aren’t well thought out, but the best thing to do if you can is run a higher one and skip 43.