Guild Wars 2

ARI = agony resist infusion (1 AR per)

1 AR = 1 ARI
2 AR = 1 + 1 ARI = 2 ARIs
3 AR = 2 + 2 ARI = 1 + 1 + 1 +1 ARI = 4 ARIs
4 AR = 3 + 3 = 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 8 ARIs

Formula:
x AR = 2^(x-1) ARIs

5 AR = 16 ARIs
Two 5 ARs = 16*2 = 32 ARIs for a total of 10 AR

10 AR = 2^9 = 512 ARIs

Conclusion: AR progression is NOT going to be easy! Multi slots are a huge advantage over single slots.

This isn’t a complaint thread, just showing how difficult leveling up AR is going to be. Using a flat 10 AR infusion is going to require 16x as many ARIs as getting two 5 ARs. If you get 1 per run… well you can do the rest of the math

Only difference is if you already have it on your armor it isn’t going anywhere. Most people who care about Fractals have multiple toons that are already decked out in AR. Those that have only been playing with a “Rewards Now” mentality won’t care either. They will just run Fractals ad nauseam now and when the patch hits.

You are assuming only +1AR drops where at higher fractal levels +5AR probably drops so progression won’t be as bad as you think. not to mention +5 sigils can be bought unless those change

I have a feeling I should buy as many +5 infusions as I can before the patch is released …

garented =1AR infusion per run but rarer +5 and such will drop too

55AR acend/legendary weapons carry 2

Zelyhn.8069:

I have a feeling I should buy as many +5 infusions as I can before the patch is released …

Don’t do this. The Versatile infusions wont change into anything and can’t be upgraded.

A developer already said you will keep your AR you have now:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/fractured/Agony-changes

Just interested to see the drop chances for more than 1 AR.

If they’re ’’reasonable’’ then I guess it wouldnt be too hard to get high AR.

They said +1 would always drop, more will probably drop.

I do not want to grind AR.
I want to be challenged and be rewarded for my skills.

How is this so hard to understand ????

Zelyhn.8069:

I do not want to grind AR.
I want to be challenged and be rewarded for my skills.

How is this so hard to understand ????

The AR requirements should be the same from 1-39, slightly less for 40-49, and far less for 50. With the current max being 55 AR it’s still pretty easy to survive most agony attack pre-50.

The challenging part will most likely be the Mistlock Instabilities at 30+ which should be more interesting than straight up damage/health increases..

Those number are technically correct but with one major flaw. You can’t remove infusions.

If you need a 7 to survive the current level you will need 64 +1’s. but then you will slot that +7 making it now useless to future progression. you will need another 64 to get back to +7. so assuming you actually upgrade and slot the infusion you will need 6464+64 = 192 +1’s to go from +7 to +8 slotted.

but yes if you never slot anything, and just leave the slot empty you will only need the stated amount.

@ZudetGameous Considering we’ll be keeping our current AR (or so it would seem according to Anet) a lot of us will skip right over the first 5 categories. Since it seems the new cap is 50, just use the 5AR infusions you have until you find the most efficient infusion number to replace them with.

Morsus.5106:

@ZudetGameous Considering we’ll be keeping our current AR (or so it would seem according to Anet) a lot of us will skip right over the first 5 categories. Since it seems the new cap is 50, just use the 5AR infusions you have until you find the most efficient infusion number to replace them with.

Yeah I don’t think it is really a big deal, you can get enough AR without jumping through any crazy hoops. Personally I will be saving them up and just getting the biggest number possible for when it is needed. It was more of a heads up so people didn’t put in their precious +9 only to find out they can’t get it back.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Morsus.5106:

@ZudetGameous Considering we’ll be keeping our current AR (or so it would seem according to Anet) a lot of us will skip right over the first 5 categories. Since it seems the new cap is 50, just use the 5AR infusions you have until you find the most efficient infusion number to replace them with.

Yeah I don’t think it is really a big deal, you can get enough AR without jumping through any crazy hoops. Personally I will be saving them up and just getting the biggest number possible for when it is needed. It was more of a heads up so people didn’t put in their precious +9 only to find out they can’t get it back.

Just wait. For 400 gems you can buy an item that removes them.

Here’s the question: if the AR we have now is adequate for the fractals most people run, why would we care about the new fractal infusion? If I only run fractal level 28 or lower, and I have 25 ar, I don’t need anymore ar. So, in theory, the new infusions are worthless to me, and the vast majority of people. Because of this, I can only assume AR scales differently now, and you’ll need more to survive than you do now.

One important thing to note is that the devs have said that AR infusions of at least +1 drop from the chests. It may therefore be possible to get +3, +5 or higher infusions from the chests at higher Fractal levels.

ArenaNet really needs to do a better job explaining the changes. Let’s say you have a back piece with +5 AR. Once the update hits that +5 becomes inherent. You can then add AR afterwards to have even more. You aren’t losing one iota of AR off of your gear.

Ayrilana.1396:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Morsus.5106:

@ZudetGameous Considering we’ll be keeping our current AR (or so it would seem according to Anet) a lot of us will skip right over the first 5 categories. Since it seems the new cap is 50, just use the 5AR infusions you have until you find the most efficient infusion number to replace them with.

Yeah I don’t think it is really a big deal, you can get enough AR without jumping through any crazy hoops. Personally I will be saving them up and just getting the biggest number possible for when it is needed. It was more of a heads up so people didn’t put in their precious +9 only to find out they can’t get it back.

Just wait. For 400 gems you can buy an item that removes them.

I’d call that P2W, but if I did i’d just get shouted down as not knowing what “real” P2W was…