Guild Wars 2

Note: At first, Im sorry about my non perfect english since is not my mother language. But I think and I hope it will enough to understand me without too much troubles

I can’t understand you, Arenanet.

Yes, hardcore players maybe are a minority of your playerbase. But im pretty sure even you (Devs) know that you need this minority for the healthy of your game. Im sure about you know this because you aren’t newbies in the industry.

So let’s take a look about what did you bring to us with this patch:
-Downgrade personal level to 30.
-Accountbound level (not that bad, but there are some issues with this one).
-Fractal Skins can be droped now at tier 10+ (and please, don’t tell me it was allways like this because, dude, i don’t even…you know what i mean)
-Slighly less difficult to reach lvl 50.

These changes are an incredible punch in the hardcore player’s face in favoritism of the casual players, making things easier for the last ones even if you need to slap the others for this quest.

Ok so I must ask you something: Why the hell can’t you let the only PvE hardcore content in the whole game as it is? (i mean in a hardcore way. All revamps are wellcome if they are made for THAT playerbase). What? do you think Im a selfish because i said that? Let’s see who is the selfish. I’ll tell you a story…

Months ago I was looking for a new challenge, a new personal quest to archive. After think about what options the game was offering to me I finally decided myself: I wanted to master FotM and get the FULL collection of skins from there. Some people got another personal quests…some people wanted dungeon runs and made tons of gold, a tittle, and tokens that can be traded for something useful. Other wanted to master the sPvP and archive some titles. Others wanted a social open world content and they went to ‘champion farm’ and Living World getting tons of gold and unique rewards from metaevents…. etc etc etc. Ok, so i choose Fractals and my only rewards are my personal level and Fractal Skins…no titles, no good drops (believe me, you don’t wanna run Fractals because of gold or drops…). It’s ok! it was what I wanted! But now you made this patch.

I have 2 characters at level 50 and after months and insane grind, i still miss 1 skin to archive the full collection. I mean… since months ago I only play 2 level 48 runs in FotM almost every day investing there all my time for gaming. Can you even imagine how it feels for people like me (there are a lot of people like me, even if we are a minority we are a lot) now? You destroy part of our time invested leveling alters, you let now people getting skins from Level 10 and you didn’t even think about reward us in some way. It’s just like “hey, nice you did that. Now GTFO and let our major playerbase play in peace”.

Keep in mind that people like me who wanted the collection of skins and master the instance, refused to gain tons of golds, titles and unique rewards because we were running fractals. And now you (non fractals runners) are just telling to guys like me “we don’t care, Arenanet don’t reward these guys in any way. They don’t deserve it” ???? Ok… who is the selfish here? Even a single title would be enough for me.

And I want to make this clear. This is not a post about “I got this and i don’t want you to get it now”. It is more about “It took me 6 months or so to make it and if i’d started now, probably it would be the half”. It’s about how unfair feels that.

Looks like you guys can’t realize that casuals and hardcore players, both, are needed to the game. What will happen when you guys ask something on map chat and get no response? What will happen when you need help to find something or learn how to play some especific content and get no response? As a casual player, you won’t invest all that time to figure it yourself how to make all those “hard and time gathering thingys”. Who will upload/stream videos? Who will give constant feedback on forums?….Ok, maybe I was a bit over dramatic on this one…but still. And after all those question then you will ask to yourself: Where are the veterans? I dont know, maybe in another game.

See you.

PD: And if I have some gold (Attachments) it’s because I got a lucky precursor drop in the Mystic Toilet. So don’t say “yeh you made gold too running fractals”.

Tbh I couldn’t bother reading the rest after the initial tone of your post and the attached picture. There absolutely no reason to assume top level Fractals are going to be easier. With the new Fractals and bosses it’s even easy to think it will be harder.

So do tell me, what has exactly changed for you? Won’t you enjoy level 50 Fractals anymore if filthy casuals are able to make it up there? You say it isn’t, but objectively, that’s all I can make out of it.

Ok so…if you didn’t read the whole post, why are you even talking about? If you don’t know what is my complain just don’t coment at all.

Oh and about that “there absolutely no reason to assume top level Fractals are going to be easier”, a dev just posted this: “Also the difficulty scaling has been tweaked overall to create a slightly less difficult curve up to 50.”

I’ll try to explain you in a short way: I want a tittle or something in form of a small detail with players like me. Im not claiming super rewards, no God, no. Just something different than just a “You wasted a lot more time to get those personal archivements because you did it before this patch. So you are an idiot and I laugh at you because of that” (ofcourse im exaggerating here).

Sigh… excuse me but i really think it’s a legit complain.

So? Up to 50 doesn’t include. You can’t tell what difficulty the new fractals or bosses will have at any level either.

And I can feel your complaint easily in your tone and the little arguments you make. For someone with an impressive amount of (useless) Fractal skins, you are make a big deal out of nothing. You are skilled at it, so going back up from 30 to 50 is not going to take you long. On top of that you’re going to be cashing in a lot of prizes you didn’t have before. You’ll finish your Fractal skin collection still too.

I don’t see how your petty problems, which don’t affect anyone really, can be indicative of the ‘hardcore’ player base in any way either.

The pic of my skins it wasn’t intended as “hey look, I have thiz n00bz. Im your god!”. I upload the pic just to prove my words are legit and im not just a dude who wanna make some loud at forums because like to troll. Just that, and I think you are judging me in a wrong way about the pic.

Anyway you are not getting my point or you do it and we just have diferent ways to think.

See you.

You forgot the part where now you even drop fractal boxes…

What i see is they are destroying the only rare non GEM/GOLD related skin.

Obviously how dare fotm skins to be more rare than black lion’s?
Its outrageous you can get something worthy without paying real moneys….

I can sympathise with the OP – seeing the hard work he put into getting to his current level (48?) drop suddenly to 30 must be hard to stomach (I’m not even remotely interested in FOTM being a WvWer .. but imagine the outcry if our ranks were suddenly reset to some low level? Ouch!).

The consolation, I guess, is that you now have a LeaderBoard that you can aspire to get to the top of.

Casual players won’t make it past FoTM10. Heck, most casual players still won’t set foot into FoTM. To say getting to FoTM50 is easier now and thus caters to casuals is a bit alarmist for my taste. Casual players don’t want to have to worry about Agony Resist. They will stick to the fractals that don’t require it just like they have been, or they wont’ go in at all.

I feel this update has nothing to do with making it more casual friendly. They are just trying to improve FoTM in general as its been out for a year now and was getting pretty stale.

This isn’t a bad update for hardcore PVE’ers who actually want to play the game. Fractals after level 30 are not going to be the equivalent of what they were before the patch. There are new fractals, new bosses, and he overall difficulty will be higher because of the mistlock instability modifiers.

I appreciate that it took a lot of time to grind up from 30 to 50 or higher (I’m one of the people who’ll be losing levels) but that grind was on something repetitive, that had a ridiculous rewards system, and that didn’t get harder so much as it just got longer. This update adds more variety, helps the rewards system some, and supposedly balances some of the absurdities we’ve been dealing with for too long. Does anyone here honestly want to go trudge through dredge 48 again for a tiny chance at the weapon they want, just so they can say “Woohoo I’m level 50!” I’d much rather something new, with a new challenge.

I’ll be losing a few levels myself so I can somewhat sympathise, but give they’re changing how level 30+ fractals work, this reset does seem necessary. Many of us may have to relearn things a bit. We’ll see. But you definitely can’t make claims about it being easier until you’ve actually played it.

But the QQ over fractal weapons? Come on.. it’s all pure RNG. You literally have no control over the acquisition of them so this pretending it’s your skill or hardcoreness that go you them doesn’t work imo. Some people got a skin from the first run they did where they could drop. Others haven’t gotten a single skin in hundreds of fractals. And you don’t need to be running level 50 to be getting them.. or even level 30 for that matter. So fractal skins are representative of nothing but stupid luck.