Guild Wars 2

Pretty sad about this agony stuff… u need to farm alot for drop or buy it, u need to farm for weapons (be able to have more agony slot) in the future will be the same for scended gear… alt killer… untill now u had the choice for alts in fotm, now u have to make a choice between your char and farm agony, fArm gold for craft till 500 then make the set….
Farm farm farm…. like others mmo…. what about manifesto?
I m pretty disaplointed… i d like to enjoy all my classes in this game, i dont wanna be a farmer… so pls anet do something about that

You do know that it is actually much EASIER to get Agony Resist now than it was before the update, right?

i dont like the changes either … i hate this exponential development … like they did with the magic find and especially now that it is “endless” … i mean to craft an +20 infusion you need at least 7000g, thats just crazy

Inuriel.7643:

i dont like the changes either … i hate this exponential development … like they did with the magic find and especially now that it is “endless” … i mean to craft an +20 infusion you need at least 7000g, thats just crazy

And what would you need that +20 infusion for?
At this time the highest total AR you can benefit from is 55 I believe, which can be achieved quite easily without having a +20 infusion.

i play this game becos ant said we don’t need to farm.
ok, i can accept some kind of farm if some people play this game who enjoy to be a farmer.

i probably will just play level 1~10 fractals, maybe sometime to play level 11~19, but i will not spend above maybe 15% of the time of game play.
becos agony make me think that i am a farmer.

but, i would love to play fractals if agony damage to be expressed in another more creative form, some kind of damage that i can dodge and there are relationship between this damage and the actions of players or boss.

the agony can’t just suddenly happen “with no reason”.
this make me think i am just like a mouse in the lab.

i want a more creative ways to represent the agony damage.
some kind of damage that i can overcome by my skill.
not some kind of damage that i can only overcome by farm.

lordkrall.7241:

And what would you need that +20 infusion for?
At this time the highest total AR you can benefit from is 55 I believe, which can be achieved quite easily without having a +20 infusion.

then why did they implement such a system? why didnt they limiting it to +10 for an infusion? to have the possibility to add higher lvl fractals? or is it for the leaderboards … so that people with much gold battle around the 1st place

Yes, it is so that they can add higher level Fractals in the future without having to remake the system.
There is after all a limited number of slots that could hold infusions, when those were filled it would be impossible to gain any more AR if they didn’t add a system like this with “limitless” AR infusions.

lordkrall.7241:

You do know that it is actually much EASIER to get Agony Resist now than it was before the update, right?

I wasn’t aware that getting additional requirements for AR qualifies as easier. But maybe it’s just me.

Easyer to get but u neet much as before, so its just grind… instability its good idea for make harder high lvl w/o farm

uh… before patch ppl had to gring levels and gear too and it took hella long as well… in fact ascended weps are relative new too….

nobody forces you to play high lv fractals, rewards are almost same outside of higher chance for wep skin

Mark my words. One day AR will be account bound just like Magic Find.

Cynz.9437:

nobody forces you to play high lv fractals, rewards are almost same outside of higher chance for wep skin

Nobody forces you to do anything. Doesn’t mean gear checks are okay in the game that claims skill should triumph gear.

Before this wonderful update you could complete high level fractals without necessary AR by being skillful. Thanks to the new awesome instabilities it’s now impossible when you are being struck by agony every 10s while in combat.

Fractals became even worse than I’d expected. From skillful challenging content they were remade into faceroll gear check content.

They butchered fractals.

Inuriel.7643:

lordkrall.7241:

And what would you need that +20 infusion for?
At this time the highest total AR you can benefit from is 55 I believe, which can be achieved quite easily without having a +20 infusion.

then why did they implement such a system? why didnt they limiting it to +10 for an infusion? to have the possibility to add higher lvl fractals? or is it for the leaderboards … so that people with much gold battle around the 1st place

So…let’s say they now limit it to a +10 infusion. What difference would it make?

It just means.. well, people can’t get +20 infusions even if they had the money and wanted to and that’s about it really.

In all honesty AR is quite easy to obtain at a stead rate, more than that you need usually, just by starting at level 1 and progressing.

lets just cross the line with the casual/high lvl fractals.. hitted yesterday 50 was excited to to do 50 dailys only to find out i cant even kill one normal mob because of low AR(55). got legendarys+all ascended trinkets with all +5 infus. So now if i want to complete the 50 daily i need to buy pretty much 2-3x 10 agony infusions ~ 120-130g each.. not to mention alts…so yeeh its pretty much agony wars now (was old 80 also so i do know how to dodge agonys and i do know it would be easily possible to do with 55ar IF there wouldnt be the instability).
EDIT:and as far as i know due to the rumors anet is planning to cap the fractals to 150 in the future wich is far beond the 30ar the armour will be bringing

Too lazy to create real difficulty, so ridiculous DoTs are added with gear-gating grind attached.

I wonder why People even complain that they have to ‘farm’ AR for… hell yeah for THE ONE AND ONLY dungeon that ever required it, and that WIL ever require it!

If you want to go to fractals LVL50+… just because you caaaaan… then you will have to gain AR.. That’s it…

Personally, I don’t even see a piint in doing such pointless stuff at all.

I did every fractal on LVL 1-5 and I’m already tired of this. I’d never even wate a thought on getting full ascended gear with full and highes possible AR just to do fractals over and over and over again only to be able to say: theheheee I’m one of the very Little handfull of Players that made it to frac75+! omg… xD

There’s a lot more and better stuff to do ingame and RL, really… ^^

Not to mention that – if you needed asc gear just to actually HAVE it there are ways to get your full set (except the stuff that isn’t implemented yet) without Setting a single foot into fractals at all.

Fractals suck, especially for the silly Overflow in LA every evening. xD

Celtus.8456:

Too lazy to create real difficulty, so ridiculous DoTs are added with gear-gating grind attached.

Indeed. Gear gating just like every other major mmo raids (Guild Wars 2 stat increase is just smaller).

haviz.1340:

Cynz.9437:

nobody forces you to play high lv fractals, rewards are almost same outside of higher chance for wep skin

Nobody forces you to do anything. Doesn’t mean gear checks are okay in the game that claims skill should triumph gear.

Before this wonderful update you could complete high level fractals without necessary AR by being skillful. Thanks to the new awesome instabilities it’s now impossible when you are being struck by agony every 10s while in combat.

Fractals became even worse than I’d expected. From skillful challenging content they were remade into faceroll gear check content.

don’t me wrong, i don’t like new fractals but what you said is a lie

realistically you couldn’t complete high lv fractals w/o having AR in some fights, especially jade maw

Cynz.9437:

don’t me wrong, i don’t like new fractals but what you said is a lie

realistically you couldn’t complete high lv fractals w/o having AR in some fights, especially jade maw

You could have completed all fractals except maw with 0 AR

I can’t be the only one who’s glad that people with those opinions do not play FotM, or at least not high levels.

I tend to think that AR is almost like an experience-check. If you got to the levels with needs that much AR, you probably could’ve bought enough AR with the relics you got to survive it.

The last thing you want in a party is for someone who has never done fractals to march straight into lvl 30+ Collosus and screws the mob aggroing up for you.

i like to play fractals, onestly its the only pve content i enjoy, i like some fractal, some mechanics etc, but i also like to play it with different character… and atm is not really possible w/o farming those agony resistance, do u will waste 100 +1ar for use it on alts (for example) when u will need it on main character? u should do it but u will cannot enjoy higher lvl….
they should make those kind of ar account bound, like they already done with magic find, and fotm lvl, so u can enjoy your fotm with all your alts… so u still need to farm, but almost u can enjoy it for all your alts w/o have to chose

Hm, I expect to get flamed for this, but I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Agony/some benefit from AR outside of Fractals…

Not a strong desire, just feels weird to see a stat that has no use outside of one specific dungeon….

Ignorent people in this forum probably didn’t notice you need 50 AR for lv40 now and 70 AR for lv50 due to mistook instability.
They probably also did not notice a +11 infusion slot cause you ~250g now.

They probably only talk and daydream about things being good while never try them at all.

Also, due to mistook instability, people will now only pick the stage with the lightest restriction of mistook instability. It’s just sad that Anet add that piece of garbage and think people will enjoy it.

My solution is much simpler… I don’t do the content.

Crafting infusions together to get +10 isn’t that hard if you just save them after each chest in fractals. I forgot saving mats is hard everyone must buy their stuff then complain its to expensive when they could have made them on their own over time. Fractals is not something that can be rushed the AR was re worked like this to make it take more time for people to advance.

I think Anet should make an black lion item for to remove the infusions from our existing weapons/trinkets.

Why? If we want to infuse our trinkets at mystic forge, i lose my wvw infusions then but i get an agony slot infusion… I spent all my laurels for those wvw infusions and laurels are more worth then those agony infusions….