Guild Wars 2

I wonder why it takes ANet so long to even implement a “Hacking” option when reporting a player. I’ve been running the Clock Tower for 7 hours now with my mate, and am able to consistently reach the top within 1 or 2 tries. I dare say I’m quite experienced with the puzzle, and have rarely seen any one overtake me on the way to the top. (Usually side by side or within a few steps infront/behind).

Just 10 minutes ago, I came across this lv 34 Elementalist (shall not reveal his name). He was able to speed past everyone, reaching the cog first by a huge margin (where everyone has to wait for the wall to break). That might have been possible with swiftness, but even if the guy specc’ed into the speed trait for Elementalist, he wouldn’t have gotten so far ahead. Even though we started side by side at that cog, he would simply run ahead and disappear out of my sights within 5 seconds.

Other alts running the puzzle along with me commented that he’s way too fast to be normal. When confronted, he would insist that he’s using his traits. Only upon having someone mention that he was FRAPSing the run all the time, did that Elementalist go silent and log off. (Admission of Guilt?)

Is it really that hard for ANet to implement a “Hacking” report button? And what can other community members do about it, given that we are not allowed to call those perpetrators out on the forum?

[Edit] Issue wasn’t really whether he was hacking or not, but what we, as members of the community, can do if we were to suspect someone was hacking?

Not a hack, just the air trait speed passive. I was always first up.

As I said, 7hours of runs. I have seen many other toons with speed traits complete the puzzle with me, but never leading by such a huge margin.

I don’t think he was hacking to be honest.

Air trait speed passive ele’s have. Noticed it too when I was running up the fastest route possible. I’m not bothered by it, I don’t see why you care. It’s not like there’s an achievement for first place.

Edit: Also some classes (warrior?) can spawn banners that give swiftness during the run.

Not saying this is what happened but elementalists do get a trait that increases movement speed by 5% every 10 seconds they are attuned to air up to 25% and it would be active even when at the tower since it isn’t a skill

I should mention I’m a warrior, I don’t use swiftness and I’m consistently first by a great margin solely because I have a several shortcuts to the top.

Yeah, I get your points.

Not that I care for being first place, I was just dumb founded by how someone can so easily cheese the puzzle with such speed.

Anyhow, onto the issue of whether the person is hacking; If a group of us were to suspect that someone is hacking, then we should have the option to report the player and let ANet investigate.

Well, I just did it on my Asuran ele, traited for the speed boost and yep, I was much faster than everyone else except other eles traited for speed. It wasn’t even close. We had about a second’s wait on that first cog for everyone else to catch up and as soon as I heard the wall break, I was gone. You don’t have to wait until it’s fully formed to begin the jump.

Air traited eles are significantly faster compared to those without the passive boost. From my experience though they tend to zoom ahead and then fall off at any of the tricky jumps due to lack of control. I believe having no or minimal speed boost is better for this puzzle as you don’t need it to clear the time-gated parts, but you do need the control for certain tight jumps.

I was wondering if Air was helping me (only have 5 trait boost). I never seemed to be first at first. But eventually once I got the whole thing memorized I’d breeze past people pretty quickly. So I assume that at least is part of the equation.

Speed hacking is usually pretty definitive. Someone moving so fast they are teleporting or practically running through the air. But this also could be poor connection symptoms as well.

Though I did see some people never get near me at the front yet they still beat the puzzle. Its possible the game just filtered them out of my view since the game does do that with players now if there is too many in an area.

Eles can have a permanent 33% speed boost. I was first everytime I did it. Even other eles with speed boosts were a bit slower. I just knew the jumps. The guy you saw wasn’t hacking just a very good jumper.

you can also use the speed buff from the mistic chest

Can confirm this is NOT a speedhack, because well, I used it to help me do the tower.

I held a dagger, and traited Windborne Speed (15%), stayed in Air attunement (10%), and traited One with Air (25%).

I don’t know if one or all of these works, but I certainly race ahead of the pack by a mile. It was definitely a more difficult puzzle when I did it on my Guardian, but it’s very, very doable with every class, speed boost or not.

It is the One with Air trait from the Air Tree. It’s not a speed hack. I was called out for using it several times while attempting to complete the Tower myself. I believe Thieves also get a similar trait that gives them the same speed buff.

@LFK Only the highest speed passive is picked.
It would go something like this OwA 10 seconds (5%) > Air Attunement/Air Glyph/OwA 20s (10%) > Windborne Speed/OwA 30s (15%) > OwA 40s+ (20/25%)

I noticed it, I was using the air trait and kept going ahead of others. I swapped to water attunement for my next run and I was much slower.

The extra speed has some great advantages
I can skip certain tricky parts in the early parts (like right after the side of the tower explodes, and the short parts after that).
It has disadvantages too, the extra speed is a hassle later on when you need accurate jumps.

Either way you don’t need it to clear it, and it doesn’t give any huge advantage IMO. I preferred to run with it in the end, because it gave me a bit of leeway in the end with the acid coming up.

Who really speed hacks a jumping puzzle? If we’re talking more than a 50% movement speed increase, that’s just going to make it more difficult. If someone’s going to bother to cheat, they’re not going to speed hack, they’re going to teleport hack to the end.

Not an exploit. Intended use of traits. I’m elementalist too and still trying to do the tower and using that trait. If they did not want us to use the traits they would have disabled them. Think twice before opening such a troll thread. ;-)

I’m wondering if at least 1 of you who posted here understood he’s asking a report option for hack.

Actually, you can jump before the cog’s in place. I did that all the time =)

Healix.5819:

If someone’s going to bother to cheat, they’re not going to speed hack, they’re going to teleport hack to the end.

… so I just witnessed a teleport hacker. They were standing, waiting for the window to break. I loaded in before them, they took the chest, ran out. I loaded before them again, they teleported away… lolz.

I reported them for botting… wtb a exploits/hacks/cheats option.

i rather have this puzzle as a solo challenge -_-

Healix.5819:

Healix.5819:

If someone’s going to bother to cheat, they’re not going to speed hack, they’re going to teleport hack to the end.

… so I just witnessed a teleport hacker. They were standing, waiting for the window to break. I loaded in before them, they took the chest, ran out. I loaded before them again, they teleported away… lolz.

I reported them for botting… wtb a exploits/hacks/cheats option.

It might have not been a hack, I ran it twice where I jumped off, somehow the fog didn’t take effect and I died on a lower platform, rezzing from where I had jumped off. I wasn’t able to recreate it on purpose though.

And, for windborn speed, pretty sure it doesn’t work in the jumping puzzle. If you look at your bar, whenever you are in an attunement you have a corresponding buff. All buffs disappear inside the puzzle, including your attunement.

I’m an ele, so I run pretty fast. But during my early attempts at the puzzle, there was a guardian in the same instance who was constantly rubberbanding, or skipping forward, while running. He always reached the first cog far, far ahead of me.

If you look around on Youtube, you’ll see that speed hackers tend to look exactly like that; they don’t just run fast, they’re constantly skipping forward as if they were lagging a lot.

Public service announcement: Don’t confuse speed hacking with latency.

I’m not going to point fingers but I have got tower running down to a fine art and just this one set of runs there was a player (a necro) who was consistently way ahead out in front of everyone and I normally lead the pack out with a decent gap and yet when I reached the end he was always standing there on the stairs event though I never saw him pass me once on the way up. The one run I did see him he appeared on a platform I was on, yes just popped into existence (not a fade in, just appeared). Now I don;t know if that is culling, latency or other related but it certainly didn’t seem normal and certainly not at the rate this player was getting up the tower.

was banner or ele air trait. I wouldn’t say it’s unfair, timing some of those intricate parts while going that fast to me would be more of a hassle than a benefit.

Good thing the sugar rush is a consistent 10% buff as well just keep in mind you have to reapply it or make it stack before it starts.
Either way that jumping puzzle is complete fail with speed buffs.

Got it twice without any, it can be hard because of the time of completion being like what, 90 seconds?

DarkBurst.6820:

I wonder why it takes ANet so long to even implement a “Hacking” option when reporting a player. I’ve been running the Clock Tower for 7 hours now with my mate, and am able to consistently reach the top within 1 or 2 tries. I dare say I’m quite experienced with the puzzle, and have rarely seen any one overtake me on the way to the top. (Usually side by side or within a few steps infront/behind).

Just 10 minutes ago, I came across this lv 34 Elementalist (shall not reveal his name). He was able to speed past everyone, reaching the cog first by a huge margin (where everyone has to wait for the wall to break). That might have been possible with swiftness, but even if the guy specc’ed into the speed trait for Elementalist, he wouldn’t have gotten so far ahead. Even though we started side by side at that cog, he would simply run ahead and disappear out of my sights within 5 seconds.

Other alts running the puzzle along with me commented that he’s way too fast to be normal. When confronted, he would insist that he’s using his traits. Only upon having someone mention that he was FRAPSing the run all the time, did that Elementalist go silent and log off. (Admission of Guilt?)

Is it really that hard for ANet to implement a “Hacking” report button? And what can other community members do about it, given that we are not allowed to call those perpetrators out on the forum?

[Edit] Issue wasn’t really whether he was hacking or not, but what we, as members of the community, can do if we were to suspect someone was hacking?

Totally agree with you – that we need “hacking/exploiting” button. I believe it was speedhack, for all others – you can search youtube and see how ppl not hacking

Thanks all for your responses! As mentioned umpteen times, I’ve ran the puzzle with traited elementalists and I believe I can tell an abnormal speed when I see one. I would think 7 hours would be enough for me to see players with all builds and latency eh?

(And nope, I don’t stay in the same instance. Mate loves switching room to avoid those charrs and norns that need to lose weight).

And it appears that Lucas is the one here who truly comprehended my post! I mean, so what if we make a wrong judgement whether someone is hacking? At least let us have an option to report it, and the onus will be then on ANet to investigate.

I wonder how many of you here have seen your orb fly across the sky in WvW, and not being able to do anything about it. Be it taking it back, or reporting it…

While i have to admit that there are several ways to speed up as intended, you should also know that there are already several ways to report people.
The options 1 and 2 are preferred tho, since those will get faster to their attention.

Option 1.
- You select the character near you. This will show his name, class, etc.
- Right-click the name
- Report

Option 2.
- Right-click the name in chat
- Report

Option 3.
- Go to the Guild Wars 2 Support page
(https://en.support.guildwars2.com)
- Click on “Ask a question”
(https://en.support.guildwars2.com/app/ask)
- Select for Issue Type: Violation Report
- Fill in the Blank areas
- Send

Here is a vid of me running the Clock Tower with the passive 25%
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/halloween/Faux-Sushi-s-Mad-King-s-Clock-Tower-Video-Guide/first#post563998

I just came out from a couple runs where a player that was never in the lobby would then appear anywhere during the run… I was certain to be the first, then I came by this chick in underwear cheering….. the next run, she was floating in the air, doing /sleep and saying that people sucked…. was really weird… I wondered if she was a dev or something (having devs saying to players that they suck is kind of insulting though…)… or someone who had found a way to hack the tower???

Yep, it’s insane <33. The dagger trait doesn’t make any difference since weapons are stripped, it seems.

They are not speed hacking or using some sort of mod or anything. They are merely exploiting a bug and since anet didn’t fix it with the last patch, i think it is safe to say they don’t care about people using banners or the air trait to do this. Whenever some moron uses the banner on everyone half the group falls the instant the buff falls because of the sudden speed change, the speed boost does little to help you but more to hurt you especially if that speed boost is only temporary.

Is the air passive an exploit? I’m using it and it makes things A little easier, but not that much easier. I still have to jump and stuff. And it’s a little harder in some places because of the maneuvering….

I wouldn’t think so. It doesn’t give you an advantage over anyone else beyond getting to the wall explosion platform first.

And I still haven’t made it to the top either lol

Me neither. ;_; Same boat, lol. Yes, being faster doesn’t mean you’re any better at completing the jumping puzzle. Dx

Wow, people are either complaining that the game is bad and the forums are full of ‘fanboy’, or they are complaining about the mechanics of the game knowning full well that it is not an exploit. We all know air ele has a trait that has a speed boost, do you really wanna go there and start crying about it?

Grow up..

I thought the air speed buff was a decently powerful advantage in the sections before the leap of faith. After that it might have made things slightly more difficult precision-wise, but overall it was a great asset. It still took me an ungodly amount of time to complete, but honestly I might not have completed it at all if not for the boost.

An Ele that knows the jumps probably looks like a speedhacker. Look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNoSzl7V3n4&hd=1

DarkBurst.6820:

As mentioned umpteen times, I’ve ran the puzzle with traited elementalists and I believe I can tell an abnormal speed when I see one.

Wow. You really dont like other people being faster than you.
He isn’t hacking. As stated umpteen times, he’s just using air attunement. Simple as that.