Guild Wars 2

This Queensdale champion loot train needs to stop. Since the update, level 80s flock Queensdale all day and night and own the events in less than 20 seconds. It’s making it extremely difficult to level up in these zones when none of the events are doable because level 80s steam roll them before you can even get there.

I’ve been called a troll all night for requesting the level 80s to go somewhere more appropriate for them since I can’t go anywhere. “Go to other starter zones to level!” “Go to another zone!” “Craft!”

So because I’m leveling human characters all of which are under level 10, I now can’t do any of the Queensdale events because Anet has made them so appealing for level 80s to farm.

The people calling me a troll tell me that they log on and kill the champions all day – that’s all they do. Because it’s more profitable and easier than doing stuff like Orr or Frostgorge event farming.

So why does Orr keep getting nerfed but places like Queensdale have champions spawning every 3 minutes? Why do level 80 zones feel the need to populate ONLY QUEENSDALE (none of the other starters have this many convenient and this number of champions)??

Something needs to be done to motivate players to populate more maps in the game world – not just have everyone flock to Queensdale 24/7 to farm champions. Usually I’m doing dungeons or fractals with the guild to notice this but even at launch it wasn’t this bad.

Please tell me there’s a better way.

You could guest to a low population server for a while? I know it isn’t perfect but it’ll let you play in the meantime.

Sitkaz.5463:

You could guest to a low population server for a while? I know it isn’t perfect but it’ll let you play in the meantime.

That’s the thing. People say “Guest or transfer.. go to other zones”

I shouldn’t have to. I’m leveling in a starter zone on a level 9 human, I want to play in the human starter zone and not have the same 5-10 level 80s zerging every event and 1 shotting everything that isn’t a champion :|

1) Farming champions in Queensdale was popular before the update too.

2) The drops are the big new thing for PvE in this update. Give it a week and the popularity will drop off and you’ll be back to the usual level of 80’s farming champions. Which still means the events aren’t exactly a challenge for anyone involved, but you will at least be able to do enough damage to get credit.

3) On my server at least the people farming champions ignore all the other events (unless it’s part of a chain that leads to a champion) and there are far more events without champions so you could focus on doing those for now.

4) If I remember correctly the next zone in Kryta is level 15-25 so you won’t be relying on Queensdale much longer anyway.

There’s four 1-15 zones to choose from, if you don’t like the champion circruit farmers go to Wayfarer or Metrica Province. Why does a (completely intended) part of the game need to be nerfed just because of what you want?

SpeedFiend.4521:

There’s four 1-15 zones to choose from, if you don’t like the champion circruit farmers go to Wayfarer or Metrica Province. Why does a (completely intended) part of the game need to be nerfed just because of what you want?

Ok once again it’s more of a problem than that. Do you not feel that it’s a problem that every player flocks to ONE zone and the other maps in the game are just barren? Not only that, I want to play through the human zones… being a human and all. I shouldn’t have to make way for level 80s to get their farming in the starter zones.

What other zone, at ANY level, has this amount of champions that spawn this quickly and do even faster? This is a problem.

I’m not sure if Queensdale needs to change, so much as all the other maps need to have enough frequently-occurring event content with a similar level of rewards to make Queensdale no longer special. That would improve player distribution. A lot of higher level maps have nowhere near the amount and frequency of event content as the lower level maps do.

I think with the recent nerf in WvW loot, these champion farm trains are here to stay unless they re-instate the loot in WvW.

DeadlySynz.3471:

I think with the recent nerf in WvW loot, these champion farm trains are here to stay unless they re-instate the loot in WvW.

Exactly. They keep nerfing things like WvW and Orr… meanwhile there’s 100 80s flocking through Queensdale farming champions every single minute of the day. NO other zone has this amount of rapid spawning, easily killed champions.

They did. It’s called the Queens Jubilee. They pretty much made a loot and karma filled zerg train that is barely harder, yet more rewarding, and more efficient. Hell, you can even do the whole thing non stop without ever having to use a waypoint or argue over which comes first in the rotation. They even put it right in the capital city!!!!

But the heart wants what the heart wants, and my dear it wants – Troll, Bandit, Boar, Oak with optional spider/wasp. That is, so long as no one screwed it up and already killed oak. .

dood,e you should see the new crowds at Frostgorge AND Orr. i think there’s this one spot in Frostgorge that’s more efficient and lucrative than Queensdale. i usually only do Queensdale if i need Kryta kills or Group events/events. it’s a good thing they did. Queensdale train has been around for a while now, probably slightly exacerbated since the new loot introduced. but if i understand leveling correctly, and understand the Champ trains correctly, you will only really be missing out on the Champs in the zone. at least, i’ve rarely seen people farm other events (maybe the bandits morale oen they’ll do in between waiting for Champs).

now thinking back to how i leveled.. i did heart, i did SPs, i did exploration, vistas, and would try to hit up any event if it was around me. there is a ton to explore. if you’re planning to use Champs to level up, i personally, imho, don’t feel that’s the best way. might as well go craft and then go back and farm the Champs as an 80.

the longer a game has been out, the more people will fall into routine. like you said yourself, you’re too busy doing dungeons or fractals. queensdale champ runs are easy. people have fun in chat while waiting for champs to spawn. i don’t think it’s the best for a starter map though since there will be a lot of new players who choose human (WHY NOT NORN???) and may be overwhelmed, but i don’t think it’s called for to ask people to leave the area as well. you’re telling them off for how they want to play, so you can play how you want to play.

hmmm.

SpeedFiend.4521:

Why does a (completely intended) part of the game need to be nerfed just because of what you want?

Actually, not having this kind of thing was stated to be one of the reasons behind the level downscalling system – so high level characters wouldn’t be able to go to low level zones and stomp through events so easily that those of the proper level would be unable to participate.

Looks like the system failed.

boredinbc.2786:

But the heart wants what the heart wants, and my dear it wants – Troll, Bandit, Boar, Oak with optional spider/wasp. That is, so long as no one screwed it up and already killed oak. .

yea, always dropping oak before others get there from another event. tsk tsk. defs needs more organization. ; ))

You’ve been playing, or at least posting, for a very long time and not only are you leveling MULTIPLE of the same race (and the race with one of the worst storylines in the game I might add) they’re all under level 10? That alone confuses me but it’s mostly irrelevant…

Getting past the first zone doesn’t take more than an hour or so. Your only complaint is because people are doing events. Why does that matter? I’m actually, genuinely, confused. They do them before you can get there is the only complaint I can see. That’s not exactly a reasonable..well..reasoning… If anything you should be happy. With people doing events that means you actually can do them too. Just when someone calls them out, get there as soon as they do. Then yay you win. Or just do what they do and keep the timers open so you’ll know when they’re going to pop. I’m sorry that you’re too slow for an event but I can’t really side with you on this.

Now keep in mind, I don’t disagree entirely. I’d like to see more people in Orr (back in october there was always a big wave of people. Ran through the area on my new level 80 just tonight and I saw 4 people total) or similar locations so I can actually get stuff done. Having near every possible way point that has the ability to be contested, be contested 24/7, is really annoying.

But you’re being silly at best.

The champion farm in Queensdale is a bit crazy. What’s most crazy about it is how poorly these champions scale up with the amount of players involved. These champions die just as fast as veterans. If there’s one thing I’d see changed, it’s making these champions scale up in health a lot more just so there’s more time for players to move to the event once it starts.

TehPwnerer.7215:

SpeedFiend.4521:

There’s four 1-15 zones to choose from, if you don’t like the champion circruit farmers go to Wayfarer or Metrica Province. Why does a (completely intended) part of the game need to be nerfed just because of what you want?

Ok once again it’s more of a problem than that. Do you not feel that it’s a problem that every player flocks to ONE zone and the other maps in the game are just barren? Not only that, I want to play through the human zones… being a human and all. I shouldn’t have to make way for level 80s to get their farming in the starter zones.

What other zone, at ANY level, has this amount of champions that spawn this quickly and do even faster? This is a problem.

There’s several zones that offer a bunch of champions, if people haven’t caught on yet and like getting t1 mats from half their champion bags then they are free to be as inefficient as they want. This whole thing will blow over as people wise up, right up until the next set of nerfs roll around

Coldin.2840:

The champion farm in Queensdale is a bit crazy. What’s most crazy about it is how poorly these champions scale up with the amount of players involved. These champions die just as fast as veterans. If there’s one thing I’d see changed, it’s making these champions scale up in health a lot more just so there’s more time for players to move to the event once it starts.

That is my point. These things die quicker than 30 seconds in most cases.

Toasty.5014:

You’ve been playing, or at least posting, for a very long time and not only are you leveling MULTIPLE of the same race (and the race with one of the worst storylines in the game I might add) they’re all under level 10? That alone confuses me but it’s mostly irrelevant…

Getting past the first zone doesn’t take more than an hour or so. Your only complaint is because people are doing events. Why does that matter? I’m actually, genuinely, confused. They do them before you can get there is the only complaint I can see. That’s not exactly a reasonable..well..reasoning… If anything you should be happy. With people doing events that means you actually can do them too. Just when someone calls them out, get there as soon as they do. Then yay you win. Or just do what they do and keep the timers open so you’ll know when they’re going to pop. I’m sorry that you’re too slow for an event but I can’t really side with you on this.

Now keep in mind, I don’t disagree entirely. I’d like to see more people in Orr (back in october there was always a big wave of people. Ran through the area on my new level 80 just tonight and I saw 4 people total) or similar locations so I can actually get stuff done. Having near every possible way point that has the ability to be contested, be contested 24/7, is really annoying.

But you’re being silly at best.

I have 22 characters and my girlfriend recently got back into the game and wanted to level some alts up with me. So I decided to play some of my other characters. I have 5 other 80s and that’s because my “main” has about 90% of the total game time on my account so I don’t usually level alts.

This has nothing to do with me though there’s a big problem with the way these champions are designed. They die WAY too fast, spawn way too quickly, and cause a massive flock of level 80s to do nothing but camp Queensdale all day.

Imagine new players being told to go to other zones because “its time for the big level 80s” to farm the events. When a level appropriate player can’t get credit for events (if they even make it there) there’s a problem.

the good thing about Queensdale champs is though they offer events as well. whereas in the open world, not all Champs are counted as events. which is also why the Spider is Queensdale isn’t always bothered with. though now it’s a different story.

i think this will die down eventually though, OP and others who are concerned. then later, it will be the select dedicated few who have always been doing this and there’s no way to stop them. XDD

TehPwnerer.7215:

What other zone, at ANY level, has this amount of champions that spawn this quickly and do even faster? This is a problem.

Cursed Shore spawns way more champions. In a zerg they are only a little bit harder but they drop much better loop. I believe that in one or two weeks the level 80s farmers will all be there after they recognized that.

Erasculio.2914:

SpeedFiend.4521:

Why does a (completely intended) part of the game need to be nerfed just because of what you want?

Actually, not having this kind of thing was stated to be one of the reasons behind the level downscalling system – so high level characters wouldn’t be able to go to low level zones and stomp through events so easily that those of the proper level would be unable to participate.

Looks like the system failed.

I remember day 1, we were stomping through some of those fights with brand spanking new toons, throw enough people at it and nearly every open world event in this game is trivialized.

The champ train isn’t only working because its full of high level toons, sure it’s a bit faster no doubt due to that, but it would still work with all fresh level appropriate characters.

Also, that’s not the reason down scaling was introduced. It was introduced to give high level characters a reason to go back and redo old content, so as not to invalidate 9/10ths of the game world once players reached cap.

Looks like the system worked.

TehPwnerer.7215:

hmm, i take back some of the things i said in my original post about you wanting others to play the way you want them too. my humblest apologies, OP.

in this case, just for reference, in frostgroge, people were doing Champs there as well and there was a zerg large enough that the Champs there, i forgot exact levels but let’s just say 78, were dropping in around 10s. so it’s not just Queensdale where you see this. but i guess the problem herein lies that Queensdale is a starters map, and its’ true, new players will miss out on getting to fight a Champ.

IMO, champion mobs that weak shouldn’t be dropping exotic bags anyway.

Claudius.5381:

TehPwnerer.7215:

What other zone, at ANY level, has this amount of champions that spawn this quickly and do even faster? This is a problem.

Cursed Shore spawns way more champions. In a zerg they are only a little bit harder but they drop much better loop. I believe that in one or two weeks the level 80s farmers will all be there after they recognized that.

i actually want moer people to hit up Cursed Shore. will definitely be more lucrative. and i want gilded coffers. :///

The problem with Cursed Shore is the mob variety. Queensdale at least offers a variety in types, which is important when it comes to getting some of the new weapon skins.

No problem Akamon. And yeah I agree that champions should be at least a certain level to be able to drop rare or exotic champion loot containers. Even more so the fact you can get one of the more expensive skins (rapier) from a soloable champion in Queensdale… that’s a bit ridiculous.

the price on the rapier has fallen considerably though. whereas some of the other skins, which drop from Risen Champs have been able to somewhat sustain their high price tag at the moment. and i haven’t done enough testing, but low level areas, Champ bags aren’t guaranteed to be exotic? whereas if you’re at Frostgorge and up, chances are they’ll be exotic.

but agreed, most of the time, people will be hoping them make it to get in one hit on the champ. and i can iamgine now, that people won’t even make past the loading screen (with the increased lag with those) before some Champs drop.

Honestly I could care less about the prices of the champion loot I don’t buy that kinda stuff anyway. I’m thinking of the effects this will have on new players or just leveling players in general. It’s messed up.

back in the day, Queensdale was definitely something else. :///

and sadly, lately i’ve been noticing a lot of trolling on Queensdale. people call events that are not up. for someone who’s new, they may not have a lot of gold to spare to WP around like that. and i don’t know which is worse, when people call out events or ask if there are events, people don’t link WPs or say stuff like “ever heard of wiki / google?” or say there is nothing going on (when there is), etc etc the list goes on.

and this, in addition to the massive farming, don’t help new players at all. well for the time being, what we can do is, i’ll say, is if you do happen to spot new players or who don’t seem like they know what they’re doing or are evident from map chat (if they’re not trolling themselves), take that extra step and give ’em a helping hand. show ’em around a bit and let them know not all maps in the game are like this.

and on that note, i do wish there was more incentive to hit up the mid-level maps so when new players get there, they won’t be empty either. all the goodies are at high level maps. but the low level maps are easy enough to complete from a time perspective. the middle, however, they’re stuck in limbo and the rewards don’t seem worth the investment.

akamon.2769:

back in the day, Queensdale was definitely something else. :///

and sadly, lately i’ve been noticing a lot of trolling on Queensdale. people call events that are not up. for someone who’s new, they may not have a lot of gold to spare to WP around like that. and i don’t know which is worse, when people call out events or ask if there are events, people don’t link WPs or say stuff like “ever heard of wiki / google?” or say there is nothing going on (when there is), etc etc the list goes on.

and this, in addition to the massive farming, don’t help new players at all. well for the time being, what we can do is, i’ll say, is if you do happen to spot new players or who don’t seem like they know what they’re doing or are evident from map chat (if they’re not trolling themselves), take that extra step and give ’em a helping hand. show ’em around a bit and let them know not all maps in the game are like this.

and on that note, i do wish there was more incentive to hit up the mid-level maps so when new players get there, they won’t be empty either. all the goodies are at high level maps. but the low level maps are easy enough to complete from a time perspective. the middle, however, they’re stuck in limbo and the rewards don’t seem worth the investment.

Very well put. The trolling, the lack of player cooperation and overall trolling / flaming new or unfamiliar players, really the zone has become a joke. But you’ll find more people in Queensdale per server than you will on probably the rest of the maps (excluding LA) combined on that same server.

The Champs in Queensdale die quickly but it is a starter zone and they need to match the level of the players.
OP Queensdale is a really nice zone- I spend quite a bit of time there because it is friendly, the people are funny and helpful and it is very social.

I recently leveled my thief and my ele there from lvl2-15 and I had no problem finding things t o do, events to run or champs to kill.

If anything I leveled much faster because all the events are constantly up because of the heavy pop.
There are many new players on my server and they are doing the same thing- they seem to be happy about it, because not only do they get to participate, there are always someone around to answer questions, help with a skill point or a res.
Queensdale is popular because it is fun and friendly .

Mind you the other starter zones are pretty busy too, so is Orr

Queensdale isn’t even the best champ farming area. Frostgorge sound is. If you know what I’m talking about, you understand.

3 champs in 3 minutes? Guaranteed exotic chest?

That beats the waypointing costs at Queensdale + the chance of a non-exotic chest.

Though Orr champ farming appears to give you the best bang for your buck? Why?

Because of Glided Coffers and Genesis and it’s value. Last I checked it was 300g. The best weapon you can get out of Glided Boxes (from FSG) is Entropy, which is around 150g?

Champs were always farmed in low level areas. This just might became popular on your server now.

This will stop anyway, when the champ skins became cheaper. Remeber Behe’s Final Rest? Once very very expensive, now goes for a few gold. Will happen to all other skins as well over time and then the farming will die down.

The new content isn’t even available for a week now. So people jump on everything new in hordes. Especially as long as the skins are valuable. This means the price will go down even faster and the farming will die down a bit.

And for leveling: just don’t do the champ events right now. There is enough to do for leveling. Probably the farming pavillion in your best bet at the moment as you are upleveled anyway.

Kind of have to agree. Max level farming in lowbie areas was already an issue before. From Dulfy it looks like most of the new skins drop from Queensdale champions and that has just made it much much worse.

I suggest anyone that doesn’t think this is an inconvenience to low level alts or new players roll a human character and try to play through your home zone. You will most literally not be able to participate in anything.

Now people know I’m not really one to call foul on much that’s not contained to RNG cash-shop shenanigans, but this is pretty broken. 80s have the entire game available to them. Levels 1-15 only have four zones and those are tied to their personal story.

Unless this was done intentionally for some strange reason, those skins should be yanked from the baby champ’s loot tables. The level 15+ areas would probably be ok. At least in those zones everyone across the board has some levels, skill points and a few traits behind them so it’s easier for everyone to be able to contribute and get credit.

Why are you not doing other maps then? If you are a new player then maybe you don’t know… but if you are a veteran player leveling his 2nd+ char there you should know how to level.

You mentiond leveling so I guess it’s only about leveling?

You can just do the renown hearts and discover all the other stuff(complete the map). That’s what I am doing. Then doing the personal story. Usually this is not enough to keep up with the story level requirements. For my 2nd+ chars it’s not much of a problem. I just login every day and try to complete the daily on them and do an event sometimes to level so I don’t need to go to other maps.

For the first char(or if you want to be faster with 2nd+ chars) I’d recommend just to go to other areas. You can use the Asura Gate at Divinity’s Reach to get to Lion’s Arch and then using a portal there to the other major cities. From there you get to other low level zones that you can complete(usually 2 zones should be enough… hearts, vistas, poi, everything is giving XP).

Also you could craft a bit with collected materials while killing mobs(buying stuff only to craft probably not recommended should you be a new player).

Vol.5241:

Queensdale isn’t even the best champ farming area. If you know what I’m talking about, you understand.

3 champs in 3 minutes? Guaranteed exotic chest?

That beats the waypointing costs at Queensdale + the chance of a non-exotic chest.

Though Orr champ farming appears to give you the best bang for your buck? Why?

Because of Glided Coffers and Genesis and it’s value. Last I checked it was 300g. The best weapon you can get out of Glided Boxes (from FSG) is Entropy, which is around 150g?

You trying to get us all nerfed!?! remove the zone from your post. I need more boxes!

I find it hilarious people have not caught on that Queensdale is probably the worst place for a level 80 to farm champs.

I agree it is a problem that people love certain zones. But ArenaNet probably won’t be able to do something about it. If they make other and fast respawning champs at other zones the community will just choose the easiest and fastest to kill champs and visit that zone instead of visiting multiple zones.

Only way would be to set diminishing returns per zone(so you would be forced to move zones).

I’m not one of the lazy 80s(I think it is boring to farm that stuff… always thought people only do it because waiting for Behe which can drop precursors at the bonus chest but I’d just use timer websites then and visit the maps only few minutes before boss spawns but also this is boring… – always the same).

Queensdale always a lot of people have been there. Now Dulfy mentions near monastery the place where queen’s champions spawn for achievement and probably a lot of people are waiting for this ones too – takes some time to get all if you have bad luck and one just won’t spawn and only always the others – and then doing other events between.

The problem with chars not being able to level by only doing 1 zone also has been there for some time… I don’t think after completing the whole map and the personal story in that map when you are maybe level 12 it will be fun to just farm event until you are level 15 and can go to the next map…

Just doing other maps as it always has been recommended is much easier… also gives you map completion and world completion(maybe you want legendaries later and so it isn’t a bad thing even on 2nd+ char to complete the whole world). Also more fun than running around looking for events… Queensdale only was easy cause everyone is telling events in chat… if all the 80s left nobody would tell about the events in the chat then you’d have to “run around looking for events” which is boring and just going to another zone would be easier.

(Also place of power is in Queensdale – one of the easy places of power recommended by Dulfy so maybe a lof of people are placing one char there to login for daily charged quartz and then also doing a few events).

AcidicVision.5498:

I have no problem with playing the game. I do have a problem with selfish players that abuse content and other players. To break this down, a level 1-15 character is not able to fight level 1-15 champions, to complete level 1-15 events, in their level 1-15 home area because level 80s just want to be lazy and burn down the events before appropriately leveled characters can get close.

And the “solutions” pretty much all break down to everyone that isn’t farming the champions getting out of the way of the people that are. That wasn’t right when people were farming Arah and griefed those that wanted to complete the event to open the dungeon, it wasn’t right when people were griefing players that wanted to complete Lyssa and tried to complete the NW waypoint, and its not right now that players are being pushed out of their own starting zone. It’s not good for the game and its not good for the community.

After reading this all I have nothing else to say than nodding with the above.

Even though I’m on Blackgate which is one of the more heavily populated servers, I had no problem joining the train and doing the champs. If you want to do champs, you do need to be part of the train.. but for the most part I don’t see a problem with that. In fact, people were very helpful when I didn’t know the spawn order. But like other people said, there are a lot of other starting zones if you’re unhappy in Queensdale.

Morrigan.2809:

The Champs in Queensdale die quickly but it is a starter zone and they need to match the level of the players.
OP Queensdale is a really nice zone- I spend quite a bit of time there because it is friendly, the people are funny and helpful and it is very social.

I recently leveled my thief and my ele there from lvl2-15 and I had no problem finding things t o do, events to run or champs to kill.

If anything I leveled much faster because all the events are constantly up because of the heavy pop.
There are many new players on my server and they are doing the same thing- they seem to be happy about it, because not only do they get to participate, there are always someone around to answer questions, help with a skill point or a res.
Queensdale is popular because it is fun and friendly .

Mind you the other starter zones are pretty busy too, so is Orr

Friendly people answering questions? Sounds like a nice server. Not so fortunate on Darkhaven.

What’s wrong with groups of people doing events as they spawn?

Working as intended.

I Agree with OP. Lv 80 queensdale farmers, are idiot lazy guys. you can’t beat any other sort of bosses in open-world? You need to be always protected by large zergs? You are a sad, lazy, idiot guy.

Also, why This champ farm didn’t get veteran class? I mean.. is call they as champion, when most of those are really easy to beat?

Well, I’m hoping for at least a 100% mob-levelled loot.

Also, to finish, farmer queensdale 80’s are really stupid:
Wp cost prince inner queesndale : 1.3s~1.5s
Champions Need at least 15% participation to gain event participation, and at least 25 to gain the exotic container. (A lot of times you’ll don’t get it due the zergs).
Actual chances for levelled loot is 50%, what means that half of time you will get useless trash from containers.
Time spent on it, is at least 4x bigger than most of high-lv farms.

You’ll finish having a profit of 50s/hour + 1~2 lv +7k karma
And also, a low chance for the new exotics weapons of course.

Very fun way to play! , But no.

What’s the best zone for Fallen Adventure backpacks?

TehPwnerer.7215:

This Queensdale champion loot train needs to stop. Since the update, level 80s flock Queensdale all day and night and own the events in less than 20 seconds. It’s making it extremely difficult to level up in these zones when none of the events are doable because level 80s steam roll them before you can even get there.

I’ve been called a troll all night for requesting the level 80s to go somewhere more appropriate for them since I can’t go anywhere. “Go to other starter zones to level!” “Go to another zone!” “Craft!”

So because I’m leveling human characters all of which are under level 10, I now can’t do any of the Queensdale events because Anet has made them so appealing for level 80s to farm.

The people calling me a troll tell me that they log on and kill the champions all day – that’s all they do. Because it’s more profitable and easier than doing stuff like Orr or Frostgorge event farming.

So why does Orr keep getting nerfed but places like Queensdale have champions spawning every 3 minutes? Why do level 80 zones feel the need to populate ONLY QUEENSDALE (none of the other starters have this many convenient and this number of champions)??

Something needs to be done to motivate players to populate more maps in the game world – not just have everyone flock to Queensdale 24/7 to farm champions. Usually I’m doing dungeons or fractals with the guild to notice this but even at launch it wasn’t this bad.

Please tell me there’s a better way.

There were plenty of threads and concerns about this and it has happened, the community all knew about the queensdale zerg and voiced it; they were left completely ignored. Look what happened…

Anet should have made it so that any champion under lvl 30 would not drop a golden loot bag.

to be fair, queensdale’s pain train has been around for a while, the update just made it worse.

i’m not sure what ANet should do. it’s not like they can make other zones so much more appealing for the mindless farming zerg without breaking the game, but discouraging people from going to queensdale is also pretty bad.

Or you can run faster. I have no problem doing events with my low lvl, in a very popular server. Also, people don’t do all the events, they mostly only do oak, troll, wasp, boar.

tell the cursed shore is the BEST 25 champs in 8 mins…… if they can do better thats fine. but tell them that. im getting about 140 chests per hour.

They should prolly scale the champs up a little more and scale down the 80’s some. It would cause a lot of people to go elsewhere.

I love how in GW they had “Hard Mode” for people who wanted to have a challenge even in low level areas.

Wouldn’t it be awesome if before logging in, you could choose whether you wanted to go to the “Hard Mode” server? Over there, “starter” areas like Queensdale would be as difficult as Orr. And you can only go there if you’re lvl 80. Of course the drops and loot are improved to cater to the greater difficulty.

I would love this. Would give me a whole new reason to play GW 2.