Guild Wars 2

then why are people allowed to keep the high stakes achievement?

I don’t mind getting it a legit way, even if the arena is incredibly badly designed and gimmicky as long as everybody has to get it the legit way.

Just another example of Anet rewarding those who rush through content and punishing those who like to take their time. Shame.

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

You can still kill deadeye with 5 gambits. It’s only slightly more difficult now, but not impossible.

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

I really don’t get what “nerf” people are talking about. On day two I was able to get to Liadri, had trouble beating her so i decided to farm Deadeye because I heard it was a good farm…

It’s was my experience that his teleports were always random, sometimes he was not tele and other times he was tele 3 times within the first few seconds.

If they did “change” anything they probably simple fixed a bug that caused this not to happen to some accounts.

It is still a good farm.

bhagwad.4281:

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

If it was about farming then they would have nerfed the reward just like subject 7.

Amun Ra.6435:

I really don’t get what “nerf” people are talking about. On day two I was able to get to Liadri, had trouble beating her so i decided to farm Deadeye because I heard it was a good farm…

It’s was my experience that his teleports were always random, sometimes he was not tele and other times he was tele 3 times within the first few seconds.

If they did “change” anything they probably simple fixed a bug that caused this not to happen to some accounts.

It is still a good farm.

His first teleport was always directly to where you spawn, second was directly across. the arena.

Levetty.1279:

bhagwad.4281:

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

If it was about farming then they would have nerfed the reward just like subject 7.

That’s what they should have done. But in any case, making 20g an hour trivializes all the other challenging content in the game. Why run Arah with a measly 3g at the end of an hour long run? Not to mention the perfect team you need to put together etc?

It was just waaaaay too imbalanced. Of course, now I’ve moved on to farming Ragemaw at 16g an hour. That’s still a hell of a lot more than I would get doing anything else!

Radu.1693:

Amun Ra.6435:

I really don’t get what “nerf” people are talking about. On day two I was able to get to Liadri, had trouble beating her so i decided to farm Deadeye because I heard it was a good farm…

It’s was my experience that his teleports were always random, sometimes he was not tele and other times he was tele 3 times within the first few seconds.

If they did “change” anything they probably simple fixed a bug that caused this not to happen to some accounts.

It is still a good farm.

His first teleport was always directly to where you spawn, second was directly across. the arena.

Not for me, the first time I faced him he just stood there and died. The 2nd, he tele’d like 3 times within like 5 secounds. 3rd time, stood there died. It was always random for me.

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

If I get the 5 gambit achievement now, it will be a lot of work. Before I would only have to hit 0-7-4-5-2 on my warrior then switch from axe/mace to GS in a 3 second match. Yet the amount of skill points is the same in terms of leaderboard ranking. If you don’t find something wrong with that I don’t know what to say.

irunai.7963:

You can still kill deadeye with 5 gambits. It’s only slightly more difficult now, but not impossible.

Which profs can do this? I only want the achievement, not interested in farming.

All the achievement whores abused the glitch, and now the casual who take it a bit more slowly are left in the dark, well done anet. And then these ppl claim ‘i did the 5 gambit achieve, so i’m better then you’. Yeah right.

The most casual/relaxed/chilled mmo, ever is turning into an elitary achievement battle/greedyness contest. Great job Anet. And go ahead and ackknowledge this post as trash, but you will see the results in a year if you don’t stop. All your casuals will leave one by one.

It’s not an exploit. It was just a clever and resourceful use of skills that could down the boss quickly.

An exploit would be if you had 2 people inside the arena fighting him at once.

Levetty.1279:

then why are people allowed to keep the high stakes achievement?

I don’t mind getting it a legit way, even if the arena is incredibly badly designed and gimmicky as long as everybody has to get it the legit way.

Just another example of Anet rewarding those who rush through content and punishing those who like to take their time. Shame.

And how do you suggest they find out who got the achievement the legit way vs those who got it via an supposed exploit?
Simply removing it from anyone that completed it before the update?

I find it hard to believe that the whole repeating the achievements was not removed, especially the 5 gambit Dead Eye farming. It doesnt make sense to me why a small portion of players should be allowed to farm the hell out of something that most players cannot. Without exaggeration, I know of several players that have already made a few hundred gold off the gauntlet farming. To the casual player thats alot of money. From what Ive seen in the past, if its fast and easy money it usually gets nerfed.

i’ll agree that it’s not the best feeling in the world when you’re saving up to do something, or, due to whatever circumstances weren’t able to start playing on release day.. and then things get patched. but i don’t think it was an exploit though. players figured out ways to kill him really fast, using in-game mechanics. ANet just didn’t stand for the ability of certain players to be able to “farm” that fast. if it was an exploit, they’d have banned players, and/ or remove Deadeye from the Gauntlet or something. but they’ve just changed him and t he system up a bit. it was strange to me that if you picked crowd favorite, that Quaggan would not aggro at all or the foes would not aggro at all if you just didn’t move. to me, that was an oversight or a bug if anything.

am sure 5 gambits is still doable. don’t tell youself you won’t be able to do it befor eyou step into the ring, cause you’ll just have that story come true and have something, someone else to blame.

people spent time early to get content done, they spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to best do a certain task.. so are you saying they should be punished for doing exactly those things as well?

Havana.8625:

irunai.7963:

You can still kill deadeye with 5 gambits. It’s only slightly more difficult now, but not impossible.

Which profs can do this? I only want the achievement, not interested in farming.

If you have an engi, go for the ooze with every gambit except tremor and crowd favorite. Then grenade and bomb away while using the supply crate to divert the oozes attention.
It shouldn’t be too hard.

Levetty.1279:

bhagwad.4281:

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

If it was about farming then they would have nerfed the reward just like subject 7.

WHen you have a situation open to abuse, you can fix it multiple ways – you can (in this instance) change the NPC behavior or nerf the reward. They didn’t want to nerf the reward to nothing (which is what it would apparently have been, especially to those not farming Deadeye) so they changed the fight’s behavior.

Havana.8625:

Which profs can do this? I only want the achievement, not interested in farming.

Managed it on a thief, full pvc gear, using d/p, ambush trap, thieves guild, scorpion wire, and torment venom. Took a few tries, but the basic plan is target him, headshot, shadowstep shot, aoe blind, thieves guild, drop an ambush trap then pull him through it with scorpion wire, and then just wail on him until he dies. Most likely zerker’s gear would be a bit more useful, but pvc was all I had on me. Got 3 achieves at once doing this, though oddly it didn’t for count beating him with one debuff.

Havana.8625:

irunai.7963:

You can still kill deadeye with 5 gambits. It’s only slightly more difficult now, but not impossible.

Which profs can do this? I only want the achievement, not interested in farming.

High Stakes Gamble on Thief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9obIV0OV_qM

I made about -3 Gold (for the tickets) trying to kill him with 3/4/5 gambits on my Guardian, Mesmer and Necromancer (after the patch, meh ~). Don’t have a thief, engi or zerker warrior… bad luck for me ^^

Seeing a thief active at deadeye made me realize…I gotta get me a thief!

Amandil.2149:

I made about -3 Gold (for the tickets) trying to kill him with 3/4/5 gambits on my Guardian, Mesmer and Necromancer (after the patch, meh ~). Don’t have a thief, engi or zerker warrior… bad luck for me ^^

http://youtu.be/VNPRcYZAZVY

Necro can do 3 gambits pretty easily. Of course Guardians are lolmode.

ThiBash.5634:

Seeing a thief active at deadeye made me realize…I gotta get me a thief!

It sucks that Thieves can’t make use of all of their flat damage modifiers in this fight or they’d be able to down him faster than Guardians. As far as I can tell, no one can do it faster than a maxed out deeps Guardian, which is nice cause that allows other people to fit into your rotation. I think even two Thieves will stomp on each other’s cooldowns. But if I had a guaranteed arena to myself for an hour, Thief is the way to go.