Guild Wars 2

So this kind of ‘nerf’ kittened us a bit
i know thieves can still farm it without no problems

But what about guardians? i tried it and its very randomly … sometimes he doesnt even teleport , sometime he does that behind a mine means u can use ur own teleport to hit him…..

any tips and tactics as a guardian how to farm him now?

P.S. i got a thief but im not sure i should get a berserker set and stuff like that , it would cost like 25gold i guess , the question is .. is it worth it? or they r gonna nerf thieves now? =P

thanks for ur aid

if you got a necro rabid by chance you can also still do 5gDED 100%win rate. but gotta wait golem cd (50-57s) because of the ooze fix they did which kills any npc left inside :-/ golem doesn’t warp out with me upon wins

Absolutely nothing has changed for us except spacing out the blind and the fight takes 2-3 seconds longer. It’s still a 45 or 50 second fight rotation. Fight takes 10 seconds but you’ll need to wait about 35s after getting out.

http://youtu.be/dQSG2yJAq2o

10/30/10/10/10 with II / VI, X, XI / VI / II / I
Full exotic zerk armor with Scholar’s runes.
Exotic zerk weapons with at least a sigil of force. sigil of accuracy helps too.
Ascended zerk trinkets

Proper foods and a stacking sigil filled up from mobs below helps immensely. If you use Perception, go with a power foods. If you use Bloodlust stacks, use precision foods. Just make sure not to waste anything by going over 100% crit chance. If you’re there the rest should go into power. Don’t forget Right Hand Strength doesn’t display, and the 20% from Fury isn’t there until you use Save Yourselves, so 65% crit chance is the ceiling. Some might say this is overkill, but I like killing him before the first TP. You’re still getting in a fight a minute and the less time you spend in there means more time for other folks to farm with you.

Make sure to save your virtue until he’s about to use his Kill Shot. Throw Focus 4 in if you feel like he’s about to teleport, otherwise it’s not needed since the next auto-attack chain will do him in.

Granted it is more difficult and your reflects do nothing more than keep up your aegis, but it’s definitely still farmable, just got to use your blinds appropriately.

Broadicea.8294:

Absolutely nothing has changed for us except spacing out the blind and the fight takes 2-3 seconds longer. It’s still a 45 or 50 second fight rotation. Fight takes 10 seconds but you’ll need to wait about 35s after getting out.

http://youtu.be/dQSG2yJAq2o

10/30/10/10/10 with II / VI, X, XI / VI / II / I
Full exotic zerk armor with Scholar’s runes.
Exotic zerk weapons with at least a sigil of force. sigil of accuracy helps too.
Ascended zerk trinkets

Proper foods and a stacking sigil filled up from mobs below helps immensely. If you use Perception, go with a power foods. If you use Bloodlust stacks, use precision foods. Just make sure not to waste anything by going over 100% crit chance. If you’re there the rest should go into power. Don’t forget Right Hand Strength doesn’t display, and the 20% from Fury isn’t there until you use Save Yourselves, so 65% crit chance is the ceiling. Some might say this is overkill, but I like killing him before the first TP. You’re still getting in a fight a minute and the less time you spend in there means more time for other folks to farm with you.

Make sure to save your virtue until he’s about to use his Kill Shot. Throw Focus 4 in if you feel like he’s about to teleport, otherwise it’s not needed since the next auto-attack chain will do him in.

Yeah tbh I already got on a good wave , i kinda how how to spread the blind well but its still hard

tbh i used rare rings , amulet etc , and it was easy b4 …
but now i can feel it .. i will try to use food as well tbh

thanks for the tips

yea, as Broadicea said, i save my F1 for if and when i see the first killshot target on me. though i’ve gone back to hitting F1 right away for more vuln and might off the bat. and if you time it right, RIGHT as you see the killshot target on you, use focus 4. you should pull it off on time. and if he does happen to get a port, look for him asap, then sword 2 to him (should be up again) or if you see killshot charging up, use Renewed Focus if you have no other options. this will of course drag on your down time in between fights, but better than not getting your loots. : )) though iw ill note, if he happens to do his little charge up killshot, then port and shoot, focus 4 might not cut it since if he ports far, focus 4 won’t hit or won’t hit in time. so just be careful : ))

last night, i was lucky enough to find 2 other guards and a thief playing deadeye nonstop. so the Guards would coordinate empower so each time, every person would go in with 24 might stacks off the bat. Guards would have full 25 with Save Yourselves and itj ust helps thieves out even more. though it’s not as gauranteed easy win as before as a small timing slip up will allow him to port still. but you should still be able to do it. : ))

one thing thuogh, on a side note, at 5 times, 5 times!! last night after i empowered with another guard, i switch back to sword, yellow text.. fight starting soon.. i get ported in, then i get ported right back out right away. has anyone else experienced this? not sure what was going on.. but that was 25 tickets gone down the drain. :// and it was only happening to me as well.

akamon.2769:

yea, as Broadicea said, i save my F1 for if and when i see the first killshot target on me. though i’ve gone back to hitting F1 right away for more vuln and might off the bat. and if you time it right, RIGHT as you see the killshot target on you, use focus 4. you should pull it off on time. and if he does happen to get a port, look for him asap, then sword 2 to him (should be up again) or if you see killshot charging up, use Renewed Focus if you have no other options. this will of course drag on your down time in between fights, but better than not getting your loots. : )) though iw ill note, if he happens to do his little charge up killshot, then port and shoot, focus 4 might not cut it since if he ports far, focus 4 won’t hit or won’t hit in time. so just be careful : ))

last night, i was lucky enough to find 2 other guards and a thief playing deadeye nonstop. so the Guards would coordinate empower so each time, every person would go in with 24 might stacks off the bat. Guards would have full 25 with Save Yourselves and itj ust helps thieves out even more. though it’s not as gauranteed easy win as before as a small timing slip up will allow him to port still. but you should still be able to do it. : ))

one thing thuogh, on a side note, at 5 times, 5 times!! last night after i empowered with another guard, i switch back to sword, yellow text.. fight starting soon.. i get ported in, then i get ported right back out right away. has anyone else experienced this? not sure what was going on.. but that was 25 tickets gone down the drain. :// and it was only happening to me as well.

hah nice out of the dome thinking !

@the last paragraph: happened once to me, immediately inside then outside without any chance to do anything, as if I had given up on queue, all tickets gone of course, zero gambit/boss selected.

Also what happened 4 times yesterday and 3 times the day before is Dead Eye vanishing on me, can be at start or during or near the end. When he does, fight ends, I win bags. Once he even vanished for a good 4seconds, quaggan came on me, then Deadeye came back and I was surely dead I knew it, then fight ended suddenly, and I hakittens again. Completely mystery, maybe server lagging and autowin code somewhere to at least prevent player raging if npc continue to dps while we can’t even see boss.

Yeah but with 4 people rotating your cooldowns are already done and you’re not getting as many as you can. Three guardians could do it if they all go the same speed, but as soon as one person takes too long (more than 10-12 secs) than the rotation isn’t as fast as it could be.

akamon.2769:

one thing thuogh, on a side note, at 5 times, 5 times!! last night after i empowered with another guard, i switch back to sword, yellow text.. fight starting soon.. i get ported in, then i get ported right back out right away. has anyone else experienced this? not sure what was going on.. but that was 25 tickets gone down the drain. :// and it was only happening to me as well.

It always seems to happen if I get ported to the arena as I’m about to finish the empowered animation, with other classes it never happened.

@Kajin – lol, i personally wouldn’t mind the “autowin” bug XDDD maybe it’s sth to do with the coding they introduced last patch? especially with with people killing him too fast.

@Marauding Scum – i was suspecting something like that as well. either that, or when i pop save yourselves, or weapon swap right as i’m about to port in

@Broadicea – you’re absolutely right. 3 Guardians would be perfect i think. i guess i could have guested or tried to join another overflow, but all the other domes were taken up by 3 – 4 other people, and most were doing Liadri. there was also this ranger that kept getting downed at each fight, but lick wounds and they’d repeat 2, 3 times until out of time or he’d winDD lol so was more having fun and lucky enough to find a few doing the same thing i was. just farming what i could. not the most effective but o well.

we had silly fun too – more often than not, we’d all be standing next to the NPC and then once someone started buffing, the other would buff too and then no one gets ported in. we’re like lol dammit.. so we finally thought to party up and figured out the little icon that indicates someone is queued haha

Switching weapons is what causes your arena to bug in my experience. Dont switch weapons before you get into the arena.

I find I had to dump Frailty to do this arena reliably since the patch.

I can kill deadeye on any class like a farm post patch with 4 gambits. 5 is pushing it but 4 is just as good to be honest. The only change is I can’t put the quaggan in.

I saw a guardian today, he killed deadeye in less than 10 seconds.

Shoe.5821:

Switching weapons is what causes your arena to bug in my experience. Dont switch weapons before you get into the arena.

I find I had to dump Frailty to do this arena reliably since the patch.

thanks for this. come to think of it, every time i get done with Empower, i swap to sword/focus immediately. i guess i’ll wait until i get into the arena. or most likely, switch earlier.

Just bought myself some WvW zerker armor, Scholar Runes, Sword/Focus, etc. etc. to try this out.

Works fantastically and I had literally never even tried it less than an hour ago so definitely doable with 4 gambits.

I just followed Broadicea’s video: http://youtu.be/dQSG2yJAq2o that was linked earlier in the thread and it was a non-issue from there.

Lafiel.9372:

I can kill deadeye on any class like a farm post patch with 4 gambits. 5 is pushing it but 4 is just as good to be honest. The only change is I can’t put the quaggan in.

Oh? How do you do it on an Elementalist?

Works fantastically and I had literally never even tried it less than an hour ago so definitely doable with 4 gambits.

basically, if you have enough damage to normally kill him before he teleports most of the time, you’re set with 4 gambits.

Azraelle.1683:

I saw a guardian today, he killed deadeye in less than 10 seconds.

As far as I can tell Guardians have always killed him the fastest, but with average downtime. Thieves do it slower but with almost no downtime depending on what you roll with.

Does anyone know if there’s a way to not have him put that Spotted debuff on you as a thief? I notice on my guard that it gets reflected back onto him, so maybe it’s part of a projectile attack? If you can go in with Smokescreen and maybe Signet of Shadows for the on-demand blind, you could take Dagger/Dagger and probably finish him off as quick as Gaurdians.