Guild Wars 2

Just curious, there is NO WAY to make money anymore, right?

Have you not tried the new Living Story events yet? I just made ~20g in 3 hours.

Liz.5921:

Have you not tried the new Living Story events yet? I just made ~20g in 3 hours.

How would I not have “tried it” if I have access to the gauntlet? /logic

One time pay out of 15s to 30s /day depending on the boss you fight. Completely pointless.

I think that Liadri should pay out 50s-1g, and not be a daily. At least leave something. Nerfing it so hard was a complete reversal of how they originally advertised it.

That’s amazing. I’d love to hear what the point of queen’s gauntlet is now from anet’s own mouth, honestly. I don’t understand what I am supposed to do now. Just do it once a day? Why are queen’s tickets 20s still then? That doesn’t really make sense. It went from a way to make money to a way to waste it with absolutely no point? Kind of extreme, isn’t it?

Anyone know if the nerf is only to Deadeye? Do Stugar and Chomper drop money still?
If so, time to discover how to farm them!

By the way, is there anyone even doing the Gauntlet now that you have to go though all that work just to reopen it?

Lord Kuru.3685:

Anyone know if the nerf is only to Deadeye? Do Stugar and Chomper drop money still?
If so, time to discover how to farm them!

By the way, is there anyone even doing the Gauntlet now that you have to go though all that work just to reopen it?

no, the whole event has been gutted of rewards.

Einsof.1457:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Anyone know if the nerf is only to Deadeye? Do Stugar and Chomper drop money still?
If so, time to discover how to farm them!

By the way, is there anyone even doing the Gauntlet now that you have to go though all that work just to reopen it?

no, the whole event has been gutted of rewards.

REALLY!!?!?!? WOW. I actually found it fun/challenging to search for good builds to farm with. So now it’s 100% money sink or do you break even at least?

Why is it, the moment I learn of a way to make gold, on my trip to get my precursor… It gets nerfed!

“Finally time to start running COF P1!”
NEEERRFFED
“Time to zerg around and farm champion centaurs!”
NEEERRRFFFEEED
“Time to kill Deadeye!”
NEEEERRFED!

I just want to cry…

I love how they don’t nerf this stuff quickly, either. They give just enough time for the hardcore players to get a massive amount of farming in, make hundreds of gold, and THEN nerf it.

Poor form, Anet. Very poor form.

Someone swung the poop hammer over the crown pavilion

Another thing I wasn’t able to find the time to farm, and now it is gone. Meanwhile, the people who farmed it have their cash, and I have significantly less cash.

Maybe play the Gauntlet for fun? Try to get all of the achievements?

Xista.7391:

Maybe play the Gauntlet for fun? Try to get all of the achievements?

I’m not sure anyone played it for fun that much, there’s surely funner things to do in the game than the gauntlet. Only thing I have left to do is the 8 orb achievement, but I don’t know if I’ll bother… got close 3 times, I felt that was probably enough.

I guess it’s a decision they had to make though. Letting people farm it for another two weeks was probably not something they wanted.

its just for this months event. why nerf it? nerfwars2!

Because they nerf anything that is profitable to a solo player, except exploiting the TP, though I guess you can say that was technically nerfed when they limited selling.

There was no need to outright destroy the place, it is temporary after all. They should have just dropped T2 bags by a silver, and changed how teleports/pulls work on deadeye. I guess they just prefer everyone zerging.

I never farmed Deadeye myself, but I saw the nerf coming. People have reported being able to farm hundreds of gold from Deadeye (and Subject 7, before him). It was only a matter of time.

What ANet appears to have objections to is players being able to amass large amounts of wealth in a very short period of time (and let’s be honest, 10 seconds to kill Deadeye for 10 silver is a very short period indeed). That’s a LOT of new money being injected into the economy. By contrast, the zerg farms in the Pavilion were nowhere near as profitable, given that it takes about 5 – 10 minutes to kill one of the Legendary bosses, from which you only get about 4 – 5 silver and chances for rare loot. Then you have to wait another 10 or so minutes for them to spawn again. Even the CoF speedruns were nowhere near this profitable (although I didn’t like the idea of them either).

ANet hasn’t been nerfing the TP because the TP in itself does not inject any new wealth into the economy, which is what they’re most concerned about. Rather, TP flippers simply move wealth from other players into their own pockets, losing some of the coin to taxes in the process. Since the flippers actually help make the TP more efficient in its (hidden) secondary goal of acting as a gold sink on the economy, ANet isn’t going to do anything to them.

(Whether or not the concentration of wealth in the hands of TP barons is a good thing or not is another discussion, however.)

Just beat Liadri. No reward. Rest of the T3s were 24 silver. Why not Liadri?

Oh yes, QQ more about nerfed bags.
Some of you logic – If somehing is NOT profitable in this game, its pointless. I mean, why do I have to fight or go somewhere, if I’ll not get anything for that? Gold!! Not fun, gold!

Yamsandjams.3267:

Xista.7391:

Maybe play the Gauntlet for fun? Try to get all of the achievements?

I’m not sure anyone played it for fun that much, there’s surely funner things to do in the game than the gauntlet. Only thing I have left to do is the 8 orb achievement, but I don’t know if I’ll bother… got close 3 times, I felt that was probably enough.

I guess it’s a decision they had to make though. Letting people farm it for another two weeks was probably not something they wanted.

Maybe for you. I know many people enjoying Gauntlet and I enjoy it too. Actually, it could be best content in the game if they added more achievments, bosses and separate it from pavilon.

And by the way:
Its really fun to read that people QQ becouse its not nerfed, but now when it is, people cry more.

Einsof.1457:

Liz.5921:

Have you not tried the new Living Story events yet? I just made ~20g in 3 hours.

How would I not have “tried it” if I have access to the gauntlet? /logic

I was referring to yesterday’s update only. It’s new way to make some gold. -_-

You can’t access the gauntlet without doing yesterday’s update/achievements.

Luigi.1584:

Oh yes, QQ more about nerfed bags.
Some of you logic – If somehing is NOT profitable in this game, its pointless. I mean, why do I have to fight or go somewhere, if I’ll not get anything for that? Gold!! Not fun, gold!

Yamsandjams.3267:

Xista.7391:

Maybe play the Gauntlet for fun? Try to get all of the achievements?

I’m not sure anyone played it for fun that much, there’s surely funner things to do in the game than the gauntlet. Only thing I have left to do is the 8 orb achievement, but I don’t know if I’ll bother… got close 3 times, I felt that was probably enough.

I guess it’s a decision they had to make though. Letting people farm it for another two weeks was probably not something they wanted.

Maybe for you. I know many people enjoying Gauntlet and I enjoy it too. Actually, it could be best content in the game if they added more achievments, bosses and separate it from pavilon.

And by the way:
Its really fun to read that people QQ becouse its not nerfed, but now when it is, people cry more.

Different people complaining, genius. And they can give SOME profit from doing the gauntlet, they do not have to make it a huge gold sink.

It’s not useless at all, it equals more or less to a dungeon run.
Every foe in the gauntlet has a daily reward associated (16 silver for t1, 20 for t2, 24 for t3), so you can actually do some of them and get something about 1,5 – 2 gold in probably less than 15 minutes.
I still don’t know if Liadri shares the t3 reward or if she has something more interesting attached. I also don’t know if this reward is character or account bound.
I also want to point that I get a Charged Core from a t2 bag. Assuming that Charged Lodestones were pretty rare on t3 bags (1/200 or so) and that I only opened 8 bags, there might be a possibility for drop rates to have been increased.

I’ll just offer my two cents on this.
People were surprised that anyone would play the Gauntlet for fun? Personally, I was surprised that anyone would attempt to farm the event and saw farming Deadeye or Subject 7 to be pointless.

I understand that if you enjoy amassing large amount of money at once that you feel like you’re missing out, but surely you can survive without making that much money, right? For example, I got a precursor drop from Karka Queen (Storm) which gave me a significant amount of money (around 140g). Have I ever gotten a precursor or anything even closely equivalent since then? No. I was happy to have had that drop in the first place and don’t mind if it never comes around again.

In this case, I doubt that farming one of the bosses was entirely intended by Anet, but once they knew about it it seems that they were nice enough to let it stick around until Clockwork Chaos. I see no problem with the changes.

I See No Tomorrow.7302:

I’ll just offer my two cents on this.
People were surprised that anyone would play the Gauntlet for fun? Personally, I was surprised that anyone would attempt to farm the event and saw farming Deadeye or Subject 7 to be pointless.

I understand that if you enjoy amassing large amount of money at once that you feel like you’re missing out, but surely you can survive without making that much money, right? For example, I got a precursor drop from Karka Queen (Storm) which gave me a significant amount of money (around 140g). Have I ever gotten a precursor or anything even closely equivalent since then? No. I was happy to have had that drop in the first place and don’t mind if it never comes around again.

In this case, I doubt that farming one of the bosses was entirely intended by Anet, but once they knew about it it seems that they were nice enough to let it stick around until Clockwork Chaos. I see no problem with the changes.

Ok?

You guys are real naive to not expect a nerf to gauntlet farming.

And if I recall, players have been clamoring for challenging content.

You got it! And now they give you daily rewards for completing the gauntlet on each boss.

So what more do you guys want?

Vol.5241:

You guys are real naive to not expect a nerf to gauntlet farming.

And if I recall, players have been clamoring for challenging content.

You got it! And now they give you daily rewards for completing the gauntlet on each boss.

So what more do you guys want?

For them to either hotfix a patch ASAP or not patch it at all, but don’t leave it for 2 weeks so that only a portion of the playerbase gets TONS of money, and then remove it so no one else can. This whole “first come, first exploit” mentality is a little outdated.

Vol they want to make hundreds of gold for farming one boss over and over again.

I am with the people above who knew this was coming. I am not sure how you didn’t think this was going to get changed or nerfed. I made a little bit of money, paid for a set of scholar runes and few pieces berserker armor I needed for my guardian. I am more than happy with my results.

Vol.5241:

You guys are real naive to not expect a nerf to gauntlet farming.

And if I recall, players have been clamoring for challenging content.

You got it! And now they give you daily rewards for completing the gauntlet on each boss.

So what more do you guys want?

You do not read very well, do you?

“The gauntlet all about proving your skill,” they said.

“We’re just playing the game as given to us,” they said.

“It’s totally working as intended,” they said.

“The devs would nerf rewards if they didn’t intend this,” they said.

So this is what schadenfreude feels like.

Vol.5241:

You guys are real naive to not expect a nerf to gauntlet farming.

And if I recall, players have been clamoring for challenging content.

You got it! And now they give you daily rewards for completing the gauntlet on each boss.

So what more do you guys want?

I absolutely expected a nerf. What we have now, however, is just a 15 minutes daily task in order to get some gold, not much different from what any dungeon could be farm wise.
What I want is to keep this kind of small scaled content farmeable up to some degree. I do not want insane amounts of gold (unless there’s some great challenge involved which justifies it, which was not the case), but I would appreciate to get the same profit as champion zerg trains produce.

I’m fine with dungeon changes. I’m fine with gauntlet changes. I’m fine with everything that promotes gameplay variety (and a bit of challenge, if possible) over mindlessly repeating the same faceroll content over and over.
What I dislike is to see these farms capped WHILE and even more mindless, faceroll farm method is not just kept available but even promoted.

Healix.5819:

I think that Liadri should pay out 50s-1g, and not be a daily. At least leave something. Nerfing it so hard was a complete reversal of how they originally advertised it.

had a friend that was farming liadri because he thought she was the easiest of the 4 with necro. he’d just run in circles spamming staff AoEs until she’d fall dead.

ANet doesn’t want the gauntlet to be something you farm for hours on end, but you can still make some cash if you take down every boss once.

i am truly, truly sorry that your facerolling in 4 seconds strategy doesn’t translate into free money anymore.

Good, should’ve been nerfed a long time ago.

It made much more sense to lower the amount of gold than to remove it (minus the daily of course). With the new method of just dailies I am having more tickets drop then I could ever spend on the gauntlet because gambits are absolutely pointless, if they put just enough silver in those bags to cover the cost of buying a ticket from the emissaries people could make a bit of money off the tickets that drop, people who saved up bags wouldn’t complain (as much) and people who had left over tickets wouldn’t complain. Now everyone is going to be left with stacks of Queen’s Gauntlet tickets.

Nerf was well deserved, farmers where crashing both the BLTC and gem exchange.

There was noticeable inflation occuring.

Vol.5241:

You guys are real naive to not expect a nerf to gauntlet farming.

And if I recall, players have been clamoring for challenging content.

You got it! And now they give you daily rewards for completing the gauntlet on each boss.

So what more do you guys want?

Oh we expected a nerf — I personally used up all my tickets and opened all my resplendent watchwork boxes the night before the patch — however, we expected them to nerf, not to destroy.

Who’s going to do the gauntlet now? With all its annoyances (the worst being having to waypoint and run all the way back when dead) the new one time reward (that ignores gambits) is just not worth it.

Too bad, the content was actually fun. They should have made Deadeye harder, or even replaced him with someone else.

In fact, they should have had new bosses introduced frequently and regularly (expiring the old bosses). If you’re skilled enough to discover how to farm them before they expire then you deserve the money.

The nerf was well overdue. My only issue with it is that now there is no point whatsoever to gambits other than getting achievements. Daily reward should scale with gambits, imo, or gambits should be free now. Otherwise there really is no point to handicapping yourself when it’s going to cost a lot more than the reward.

I know a guy that made 8000+g from buying cheap minis putting them in mystic forge and selling them at 75g a piece…. the prices are normal now but after the patch it was crazy dude was going it all day

Since there is no meaningful reward whatsoever to playing the gauntlet now, the tickets can be made account bound again, right?

Oh, they already are. Funny that Anet preemptively recognized that they have no value anymore.

Just finished running my daily gauntlet, I do every boss but Liadri. I went in with 24 tickets and came out with 17, every invasion I end up with 4 or 5 tickets as drops. What I am getting at is at this rate I will end up with several stacks of useless tickets because all gambits reward us with is more cogs, which due to the invasion are only worth vendoring. I really hope that the tickets will be able to be vendored in the near future because the gauntlet is dead.

Shpongle.6025:

I know a guy that made 8000+g from buying cheap minis putting them in mystic forge and selling them at 75g a piece…. the prices are normal now but after the patch it was crazy dude was going it all day

Yeah, and that was a serious and obvious exploit, that guy probably isn’t playing anymore…

This change is simply stupid: they introduced gambits so that the more you risk, the more you gain, quoting from the august 6th patch notes “Take a risk with special gambit conditions to earn even more prestigious rewards”.
So, are the sprockets this “prestigious rewards”, seriously?
I really don’t understand the way they’re thinking…

Here’s a tip, stop farming.

I don’t think you need to worry about too many people farming playing gauntlet anymore.

kahzee.6042:

Here’s a tip, stop farming.

Tip for what? Why would anyone not farm?

Here’s a tip, start farming.

bhagwad.4281:

kahzee.6042:

Here’s a tip, stop farming.

Tip for what? Why would anyone not farm?

Here’s a tip, start farming.

It goes against the spirit of the game. Playing the game is more important and should be more profitable and Anet agrees

kahzee.6042:

bhagwad.4281:

kahzee.6042:

Here’s a tip, stop farming.

Tip for what? Why would anyone not farm?

Here’s a tip, start farming.

It goes against the spirit of the game. Playing the game is more important and should be more profitable and Anet agrees

They agree so much that they waited that long to patch this, and now we have a bunch of players who have enough gold to buy legendaries…

Ironic, isn’t it ?