Guild Wars 2

This made me giggle

LOL Oh my that was so descriptive…..

Nothing like game designers gyrating genitals pressed against one’s cheek

But really +1 this event and it’s execution must have taken the Anet’s pet gerbil a whole entire minute to come up with.

I wonder if they realize they are about tk crush their oen game into the ground.

Bots didnt do it. Players didnt do it. They actually managed to trash their own game.

Lol

Valatar, Well siad sir!

I have only been doing MMO for maybe 6 years, but have been a gamer since my early chilhood in the 60’s. I have traveled all over the country to various conventions, tournaments, etc. for just about every type of game you could name. Real Money like Poker, Bridge and Chess. Role Playing, Strategy, what have you.

I honestly believe this weekend takes the Cake, the Pie, the Parfait, and the Milkshake with the Whipped Cream (no doubt for the gyrations) and the Cherry on top.

Silver Lining – it can only get better from here, and we all get to play the “You think this is bad, you should have been there for Lost Shores!” card on all future whiners.

This made me laugh, but he is right. Even though the event was the least of my concerns, this patch could quite possibly be Guild Wars 2 downfall. I am just baffled by the lack of response from arenanet around ALL of the concerns that THEIR gaming community as.

-Ascended gear and the gear treadmill (Evety thread that breathes this gets moved into one(stupid idea…) making a 10k post thread. One response from the devs)
-Fractals and leveling system promoting a game where you must play all the time to keep up with the crowd of people. In a few months, if you don’t play this way, you’ll be left behind. A fact.
-Laggy event throughout
-Disconnections without loot
-Confusing event. I logged in on Saturday morning and had NO idea where to go to participate

A steaming pile.

I was gonna recommend GW2 to my friends until this.

That brings back memories……………bad ones! laughs

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Mad King Thorn says, “You live in Asia/Australiasia!”

Grezko.7950:

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Depends on which time zone you live in……….

There’s a reason why these events will never be as memorable as say the sleeper event in Everquest, they are planned… Everyone knows that its coming, that’s the main thing that takes me out of it, most of the good events in other mmos happen either by triggering something and all of the sudden something goes lose in the world with no one expecting, you can not make an exiting "Ermergard an unexpected “expected” attack from crab things in Lion’s Arch" when everyone knows that it will happen… Frankly I think the lag would have been a whole lot better in LA during the first event if it wasn’t told that it will happen. Yeah I’m sure there would have been people flaming Anet for not telling that there’s going to be an event and that they missed it but… It’s an attack on the city that no one expected…

They coincide events with peak numbers logging on to maximise the amount of people playing. I feel for you if that means you miss out in the timezone that you are in but thats the way of it. Cater to the majority, not the minority.

… that being said a fix would be to give those in other parts of the world an instance to themselves. I would think that it would be pretty easy to check from which timezone a player comes from. Implement a way to give all of those players a separate instance of the same map to complete at a more logical gaming hour.

Yea not sure what wackadoo thinks the majority of GW2 players work on Sunday afternoon. That’s just silly. If the Devs sent out a survey asking what the best possible time would be for a one-time event, I’m pretty sure that Sunday afternoon would be overwhelmingly the most chosen time period.

Would never be on a weekday, and many people like their Saturdays open and/or are working Saturday. Sunday afternoon was the absolute best possible choice.

I’ve been paying and playing MMOs for over 10 years and i cant remember the last time i got made so furious by an MMO. not because of crappy content, lag or rampant botters… im used to that. But This. A slap by the gaming coy in the face of its oceanic players. Wow.

You have hit the nail pretty squarely here Val.
Only thing I’d add is even had it worked flawlessly, gone off without a hitch and rewarded everyone well and fairly… I’d still complain. This is possibly the most middling design I’ve seen in the game, a one time challenge devoid zerg to the loot pinata.
The only thing I’m thankful for this weekend is I couldn’t find friends who were available to try it. I wouldn’t want their first impressions of a game with this much potential to be so mediocre.

Grezko.7950:

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Plus it was in the evening for Europe. There are actually more EU servers than NA. So yeah… it certainly wasn’t the middle of a work day for most of the playerbase!

Gombar.7324:

Grezko.7950:

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Depends on which time zone you live in……….

My arguement was against “most of the playerbase”. Most of the player base is EU and US times – making the event in the 8-11 PM Sunday EU time and midday Sunday US time. So unless you work Sundays its ok time wise. And claiming that most of the player base works on sundays(in the US) is stupid to say the least. Not the mention the original poster did not even think of the EU players for witch this time is probably the best.

OP is apparently angry that he did not take part but claiming he is part of the majority is a terribly weak argument. MOST of the playerbase do NOT work sundays. And MOST of the playerbase get back at home early on Sunday evenings due to Monday being work/school day for MOST of the playerbase.

At least you were working and not standing next to an NPC for 8 hours. Those of us on the regular server on dragonbrand stood by a broken NPC for 8 hours hoping to get the final quest chain to start. Not once did Anet log in to tell us it was OK to log nor did we know we could drop to do the quest on an overflow. We all stuck it out in fear of losing our spot and chance at the loot. The final quest never completed and we were left to to have Anet reset the server letting us know the monster had been defeated. What made it worse is that by the time that many of us took the plunge and logged onto a new overflow, it was too late to complete. We were either DC’d or in my case, I was right at the end of the final boss to only have Anet reset the servers at 10AM pacific. I would gladly have gone to work versus wasting a sunday watching a screen for 8 hrs. I’m hard pressed to ever remember a situation this disappointing in my 30 years as a gamer. I can now say that I totally understand why my buddies were so pissed for the Gates of Anq. Thank god I was vacationing that weekend but no such luck this time.

Grezko.7950:

Gombar.7324:

Grezko.7950:

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Depends on which time zone you live in……….

My arguement was against “most of the playerbase”. Most of the player base is EU and US times – making the event in the 8-11 PM Sunday EU time and midday Sunday US time. So unless you work Sundays its ok time wise. And claiming that most of the player base works on sundays(in the US) is stupid to say the least. Not the mention the original poster did not even think of the EU players for witch this time is probably the best.

OP is apparently angry that he did not take part but claiming he is part of the majority is a terribly weak argument. MOST of the playerbase do NOT work sundays. And MOST of the playerbase get back at home early on Sunday evenings due to Monday being work/school day for MOST of the playerbase.

Understandable that that playerbase is squid as a kangaroo, but yeah….

There is a feedback thread. Perhaps these sentiments should be posted there as well.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lostshores/Lost-Shores-Feedback-Thread-1/page/19#post798733

I found this event the least fun and most annoying experience I have had in the game so far.

It’s incredibly depressing seeing people congratulating ArenaNet and asking for more events just like it. I hope ArenaNet learns from this and not make the same mistake of doing it all over again.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

It’s incredibly depressing seeing people congratulating ArenaNet and asking for more events just like it. I hope ArenaNet learns from this and not make the same mistake of doing it all over again.

For those of us that that missed “the golden days of MMORPGs. That rare sensation of having a game designer’s genitals pressed against [our] cheek[s] while their hips gyrate and [we] sob quietly is not something [we]’ve experienced from any other online game in memory.” This event was fantastic at educating us about the history the MMORPG experience.

Valatar.7590:

But this, this is a masterpiece. From the horrible core concept of one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase, to the servers grinding to a smoking halt in the bigger fights, to the piece de resistance of shutting down the game for a patch when the group I was in had the boss in the final stage and were literally seconds away from downing him after hours of laggy hell, there was not one facet of this experience that was not perfectly crafted to troll your customers. The fact that players had to collaborate outside of the game to even make it into instances where they could attempt to play through the event, only to then have the event crash on them and make them start again from square one, really brings me back to the golden days of MMORPGs. That rare sensation of having a game designer’s genitals pressed against my cheek while their hips gyrate and I sob quietly is not something I’ve experienced from any other online game in recent memory………My hat is off to you, sirs.

pure poetry

I hated the confusion, everybody and their grandmother was arguing about where the final event was starting, some posts said in LA, others said different things.
We were inly informed the same moment the event started, which means most of us missed the opening doe to having to zone in from LA and run across the map because where are the map markers. Really annoying.

This was absolutely the stupidest idea from ANet. Didn’t they learn from the Halloween event? Players don’t want 1 time only event that will flood and crash servers.
A miserable failure ANet. Don’t ever do this again.

moonjo.9831:

This was absolutely the stupidest idea from ANet. Didn’t they learn from the Halloween event? Players don’t want 1 time only event that will flood and crash servers.
A miserable failure ANet. Don’t ever do this again.

You know, Christmas is just around the corner…….

Grezko.7950:

“one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase”
Is that a joke ?? Sunday is a workday for most of the playerbase ?? Get real will you…

Friday. Friday is a workday for most of the playerbase. When the once-ever invasion of Lion’s Arch occurred.

My favorite part, aside from the devastating lag, was that half the karka weren’t rendering for most people during the plant-the-bombs step of the event, so you’d be moving up the ramp and suddenly BAM! Invisible champion karka does its stomp thing and one-shots the entire raid that couldn’t even see it.

Because when I think truly epic, I think more than 100 people being one-shotted by an enemy that isn’t rendered until everyone’s already dead…

Couldn’t agree more.
The first 2 phases were filled with bugged out NPC’s (Stood next to Noll for like 3-4 hours just waiting for that mofo to move), the 3th phase was…

Well, I wouldn’t be able to tell you how it was because I spend 2.5 hours TRYING TO LOG ON. From 21.30 to 23.00 I tried to log on to the game, meanwhile on skype with guildmembers. Finaly I hear that 7 of them got precursors, 20 slots lootbags, exotics, rares, …

And I was stuck behind my pc raging my kitten off.

Unless Anet comes out big with excuses and a way for the people that got kittened by their crappy servers/lag management/… I’m seriously thinking of just deïnstalling this game and throwing it in the “doesn’t care about customers” bin.

Each day’s event was started by mail to your logged in character. Did you check it? Sheesh, some people are so stupid. Anyway, I will say the mail should be delivered 15 minutes prior to the event start and not at the start in order to give time for the person to get to the event. My only other complaints were:
1) First day event was a lagfest (appeared to be resolved on the third day of the event)
2) The first days quest chain for the event was buggy (shame on you Anet).
3) Not having the events sync’d between main and overflow servers was also bad. People got lost on event progression when they got disconnected or had to relog.

I enjoyed that last day’s activities. It was tough and there was a lot of griping over vent during its progression, but in the end people felt the reward matched the effort put in.

This post was 5 stars, …would read again

10/10

Would read again.

I get that everyone is frustrated; even I feel disappointed about dc’ing from lag on Phase 3 and not getting the chest.

But how does this kind of spiteful, immature post help anyone? ArenaNet has already announced that they are looking at ways to compensate us for the missed reward. It has hardly been 24 hours since Phase 3 of the event ended.

Let’s try to show a little patience and faith rather than immediately running around like chickens without a head screaming about how this is the complete and utter downfall of the game.

Or did we somehow forget that? That this is a game? :/

Valatar.7590:

I had lost faith in the ability of MMOs to turn an event into a laggy crapfest where the server blows up and denies everyone the prizes. Congratulations guys, you really one-upped the worst event in WoW history with the single most breathtaking example of game design and server incompetence that I have ever personally witnessed. In fairness, Everquest’s Sleeper event may still hold the overall crown, but I wasn’t online for that one when it happened.

But this, this is a masterpiece. From the horrible core concept of one-time events that occur in the middle of a workday for most of the playerbase, to the servers grinding to a smoking halt in the bigger fights, to the piece de resistance of shutting down the game for a patch when the group I was in had the boss in the final stage and were literally seconds away from downing him after hours of laggy hell, there was not one facet of this experience that was not perfectly crafted to troll your customers. The fact that players had to collaborate outside of the game to even make it into instances where they could attempt to play through the event, only to then have the event crash on them and make them start again from square one, really brings me back to the golden days of MMORPGs. That rare sensation of having a game designer’s genitals pressed against my cheek while their hips gyrate and I sob quietly is not something I’ve experienced from any other online game in recent memory. Even SWTOR managed somehow to not be made of that much disappointment, and it was made by EA! My hat is off to you, sirs.

Now you just need to cap it off by having an ingame announcement from the developers in a PvP zone and forget to turn on the invulnerable flag for the head designer. At that point, GW2 will have cemented its place in online gaming history forever.

I LOLed HARD.

I laughed so hard I spit my tea all over the keyboard. I hope you kittening burn in hell for that, you kitten kitten!

So well written

“middle of the work day for most people”——-

I’m not sure what 3rd world country you reside where they consider Sunday a work day, but in most advanced cultures they see Sunday as a day of rest and have the weekend off.

P.S. Tis’ life.

Siphaed.9235:

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“middle of the work day for most people”——-

I’m not sure what 3rd world country you reside where they consider Sunday a work day, but in most advanced cultures they see Sunday as a day of rest and have the weekend off.

P.S. Tis’ life.

Then whats your excuse for Friday? Do people in advanced cultures not work on that day too?

Valatar.7590:

Now you just need to cap it off by having an ingame announcement from the developers in a PvP zone and forget to turn on the invulnerable flag for the head designer. At that point, GW2 will have cemented its place in online gaming history forever.

Wait… there was a game designer in game… and he wasn’t invulnerable?

What team was he on? And did he die quickly or something?

LOL I’d pay money to see that hahaha!

I have to say regarding the rest of your post, I think it was a little extreme, but otherwise I agree with the sentiment.

and it was pretty funny, hehe

Post of the year, hats off to you sir.

Morfedel.4165:

Wait… there was a game designer in game… and he wasn’t invulnerable?

What team was he on? And did he die quickly or something?

LOL I’d pay money to see that hahaha!

I have to say regarding the rest of your post, I think it was a little extreme, but otherwise I agree with the sentiment.

and it was pretty funny, hehe

I’m actually referring to Ultima Online, where ‘Lord British’, the game’s lead developer, made an appearance before an assemblage of the users. They had disarmed the users, but nobody had thought to make him invulnerable, so one user stealthed over to a guard, pickpocketed a Fire Field scroll from the guard, and cast it on Lord British. Assuming he was invulnerable, Lord British ignored the fact that he was standing inside an inferno of flames, up until he keeled over and died in front of all of the players.

It’s considered one of the more memorable screw-ups in MMOG history, for the oldies who were around for it.

Lol so true!!! Awww now all I could think is Anet gyrating on my cheeks

curtegg.5216:

Each day’s event was started by mail to your logged in character. Did you check it? Sheesh, some people are so stupid. Anyway, I will say the mail should be delivered 15 minutes prior to the event start and not at the start in order to give time for the person to get to the event. My only other complaints were:
1) First day event was a lagfest (appeared to be resolved on the third day of the event)
2) The first days quest chain for the event was buggy (shame on you Anet).
3) Not having the events sync’d between main and overflow servers was also bad. People got lost on event progression when they got disconnected or had to relog.

I enjoyed that last day’s activities. It was tough and there was a lot of griping over vent during its progression, but in the end people felt the reward matched the effort put in.

Buddy do you know when they sent the mail for the third event? right as it STARTED, not when you logged in, not 10 mins before so people would have time to go there, no RIGHT AS THE GUNS FIRED. I was already standing in the demo camp when the event started and got the mail.

The first day event was done poorly, they could have spread the area of mobs out over the lighthouse area to the beach on the north side, so that everyone spread out and you could actually see the hatchlings to kill. I didn’t even bother doing the scavenger hunt, thankfully it would appear.

Second day event, didn’t even get to see it done, heard there were some trebs building, 20 mins in and it hadn’t started on my overflow, someone posted a twitter message from anet oh we have to wait on the trebs to be built. That’s nice why would they have us log on at 3pm est so that we had to wait another 15 mins on npcs to build weapons? Went into another overflow and it was already done and the ship porter was up, fantastic.

Third day event, invisible rolls that killed half the raid so many times, which brought the elitist idiots “you guys know you can dodge!” Really? can’t dodge what you can’t see coming idiot. You would go up the ramp and see no mobs but you knew there about 10 there, because all of a sudden see the pools of poison being shot out killing dozens of people who didn’t have time to react because of lag, (thank you death shroud and mist). Stayed in the area long enough you would eventually see mobs appearing around you sometimes right on top of you.

I managed to do the event twice on different characters, but I feel really sorry for the people who spent hours on end trying and not even getting it done once, they got nothing to show for it. Dragging the event on so long especially on the reinforcement periods, I mean really? that couldn’t have been cut to 10 mins? did it really have to be half hour of mindless killing? all the other parts were at least creative. Rewards should have been given out for the different parts of the event, not all in the end. Only thing rewarding for me this weekend was opening that chest twice, because I really didn’t care for ascended, fotm, jump puzzle, or the elitist attitude the new direction will bring.

This was nowhere near the reaming the Sleeper event was. It also wasn’t as bad as very early Everquest with Mayong Mistmoore warping all over Mistmoore and one-shotting players (to be fair, that might have been beta…too long ago to remember). This also didn’t trump Gates of Ahn’qiraj but you know, I’d say it’s about the same level of brain-melting issues.

I’m encouraged they’re going to do something about the loot problem with the phase 3 boss. Even if it’s not a precursor, or if it’s just some small trinket to say “We’re sorry” I’m good with that. Taking responsibility for this horrible content launch goes a long way.

What won’t be OK is if the developers don’t learn from this going forward. I’ve been thinking about this and while I think the idea of one time events is nice on paper, it’s not really fair to a world-wide player base.

Suggestions

1. This ‘weekend’ event could have been made a week long affair no problem and cycled the events for everybody to participate in. Worried about people farming precursors on Ancient Karka? No problem. Use diminishing returns to make sure that people can’t loot farm it effectively.

2. Events like this need large scale testing to accurately predict what’s going to happen on roll-out. No amount of in-house testing could have simulated all the people trying to do these events. It’s time for a public test server IMO.

3. Having live GM’s running around to address issues with events would also make things go smoother. Somebody to reset spawns, fix people not getting loot, etc. right when it happens, rather than dealing with it days later would probably have taken the sting out of it a bit.

On the third point (since EQ was mentioned more than once). I remember going to Vex Thal on the day after Sony patched for I think it was DX9? Whatever they did had mobs that one-hit players aggroing through the floor, through the ceiling, etc. warping in on us and wiping our raid. A live GM got our corpses out and gave us the loot from the boss we killed before the insanity ensued. That’s the kind of quality support I’d love to see in GW2.